Doug Goldstein wrote:
The amount of time spent
debating something over the pretty look and not over technical merits
creates terrible signal-to-noise ratios (where I consider the pretty
debates as noise and the technical merits as signal).
I'm not sure that much time on this list is spent deba
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Doug Goldstein wrote:
> This is not a debate nor is this thread meant to be a launching point
> for people to promote their own campaign for being on the council and
> I chide you for taking it as such.
I was just trying to contribute to the debate, no more. Since
2009/6/3 Piotr Jaroszyński :
> 2009/6/2 Doug Goldstein :
>> All,
>>
>> The current council meetings have gotten completely out of hand for
>> weeks meetings have become nothing more then a continuation of the
>> senseless bicker-fest that have become the e-mail threads on GLEP54,
>> GLEP55, and EAP
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Denis Dupeyron wrote:
> Hi Doug,
>
> I just got to this thread, so sorry for entering the debate a bit
> late. I find your propositions very interesting. In my manifesto [1] I
> have proposed something significantly different which simply consists
> in spinning the
Denis Dupeyron wrote:
In my manifesto [1] I have proposed something significantly different
which simply consists in spinning the long discussions off the
council meetings using more focused groups
++
I've seen this used to good effect on projects at work. The only
challenge might be the fac
Hi Doug,
I just got to this thread, so sorry for entering the debate a bit
late. I find your propositions very interesting. In my manifesto [1] I
have proposed something significantly different which simply consists
in spinning the long discussions off the council meetings using more
focused group
2009/6/2 Doug Goldstein :
> All,
>
> The current council meetings have gotten completely out of hand for
> weeks meetings have become nothing more then a continuation of the
> senseless bicker-fest that have become the e-mail threads on GLEP54,
> GLEP55, and EAPI-3 without any real progress or sens
Doug Goldstein wrote:
> All,
>
> The current council meetings have gotten completely out of hand for
> weeks meetings have become nothing more then a continuation of the
> senseless bicker-fest that have become the e-mail threads on GLEP54,
> GLEP55, and EAPI-3 without any real progress or sense c
Am Montag, den 01.06.2009, 23:15 -0500 schrieb Doug Goldstein:
> All,
>
> The current council meetings have gotten completely out of hand for
> weeks meetings have become nothing more then a continuation of the
> senseless bicker-fest that have become the e-mail threads on GLEP54,
> GLEP55, and EA
Heya,
thanks for bringing this up!
Doug Goldstein wrote:
> All,
>
> The current council meetings have gotten completely out of hand for
> weeks meetings have become nothing more then a continuation of the
> senseless bicker-fest that have become the e-mail threads on GLEP54,
> GLEP55, and EAPI-3
Am Dienstag, den 02.06.2009, 01:53 -0400 schrieb Andrew D Kirch:
> Doug Goldstein wrote:
> > All,
> >
> > The current council meetings have gotten completely out of hand for
> > weeks meetings have become nothing more then a continuation of the
> > senseless bicker-fest that have become the e-mail
On Tuesday 02 June 2009 06:15:43 Doug Goldstein wrote:
> All,
>
> The current council meetings have gotten completely out of hand for
> weeks meetings have become nothing more then a continuation of the
> senseless bicker-fest that have become the e-mail threads on GLEP54,
> GLEP55, and EAPI-3 with
(items 1 through 2b):
> ...
+1. Go and read up Robert's Rules of Order folks. The equivalent for
your own language usually exists. Erskine May (en_GB) and Code Morin
(fr_CA) off the top of my head.
> 3) Once discussion on the topic has concluded, the council members
> will vote on the actions requ
Doug Goldstein wrote:
> All,
>
> The current council meetings have gotten completely out of hand for
> weeks meetings have become nothing more then a continuation of the
> senseless bicker-fest that have become the e-mail threads on GLEP54,
> GLEP55, and EAPI-3 without any real progress or sense co
Hello,
I haven't been able to attend a council meeting for a bit since it
occurs at ~2:30 am my time, but for what it's worth:
On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 23:15 -0500, Doug Goldstein wrote:
[...]
> 1) Agenda Topics are posted to the appropriate mailing lists at a
> MINIMUM 7 days prior to the meeting. (
All,
The current council meetings have gotten completely out of hand for
weeks meetings have become nothing more then a continuation of the
senseless bicker-fest that have become the e-mail threads on GLEP54,
GLEP55, and EAPI-3 without any real progress or sense coming of them.
It's taken me a lit
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