Re: [gentoo-dev] Java 9 on Gentoo

2017-11-18 Thread James Le Cuirot
On Sat, 18 Nov 2017 14:11:11 + Roy Bamford wrote: > You can start with gcc-5.4 with the gcj use flag. > That will bootstrap icedtea:7 > icedtea:7 will bootstrap icedtea:8 > Tested on arm64. > > With icedtea:7 going and gcc-5.4 not having a very long future, > building icedtea for a new arch

Re: [gentoo-dev] Java 9 on Gentoo

2017-11-18 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
Eating spam for breakfast! Glorious Spam! http://cdn.ipernity.com/142/50/59/32265059.4aebaf91.640.jpg https://landof1words.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/sir-can-a-lot.jpg On Sat, 18 Nov 2017 09:59:15 -0500 "William L. Thomson Jr." wrote: > > That is also the main reason for Icedtea project exis

Re: [gentoo-dev] Java 9 on Gentoo

2017-11-18 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
Forgot something useful On Sat, 18 Nov 2017 09:50:51 -0500 "William L. Thomson Jr." wrote: > > Otherwise yes, unless icedtea-bin exist for that arch. Boostrapping > in a post gcc-jdk/java 7 world will be difficult, If not impossible > for some archs. That is also the main reason for Icedtea pro

Re: [gentoo-dev] Java 9 on Gentoo

2017-11-18 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Sat, 18 Nov 2017 14:11:11 + Roy Bamford wrote: > > You can start with gcc-5.4 with the gcj use flag. > That will bootstrap icedtea:7 > icedtea:7 will bootstrap icedtea:8 > Tested on arm64. Your likely one of the few to do that :) That is good one does not have to go back to 1.5, and 1.6..

Re: [gentoo-dev] Java 9 on Gentoo

2017-11-18 Thread Roy Bamford
On 2017.11.18 04:16, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > On Sat, 18 Nov 2017 02:40:14 + > Peter Stuge wrote: > > > William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > > > > If you have any suggestions as to what I should look at to > better > > > > understand the OpenJDK build system I would very much appreciate > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Java 9 on Gentoo

2017-11-17 Thread R0b0t1
Hello again friends, On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 11:30 AM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > Every bit contains useful technical information. Maybe make some effort > to package or help JDK on Gentoo vs a pointless comment. > Thank you for the information. I hope it didn't seem like I was asking you t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Java 9 on Gentoo

2017-11-17 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Sat, 18 Nov 2017 02:40:14 + Peter Stuge wrote: > William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > > > If you have any suggestions as to what I should look at to better > > > understand the OpenJDK build system I would very much appreciate > > > them. > .. > > Build OpenJDK stand alone. Get familiar with

Re: [gentoo-dev] Java 9 on Gentoo

2017-11-17 Thread Peter Stuge
William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > > If you have any suggestions as to what I should look at to better > > understand the OpenJDK build system I would very much appreciate > > them. .. > Build OpenJDK stand alone. Get familiar with that. It used to be that one could not build OpenJDK without already

Re: [gentoo-dev] Java 9 on Gentoo

2017-11-17 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 23:41:53 -0500 "William L. Thomson Jr." wrote: > On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 21:42:59 -0600 > Matthew Thode wrote: > > > > You seem to know a bit about this, has there been a bug made > > outlining the troubles we will encounter as you know them? > > No A user did file a bug for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Java 9 on Gentoo

2017-11-17 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Fri, 17 Nov 2017 12:07:23 -0500 NP-Hardass wrote: > Oh come on! > > Triple posting to the ML? > > Do we really need to have another discussion about not being spammy... > Please... Think before you post... Yes you should think before you post! Every bit contains useful technical informatio

Re: [gentoo-dev] Java 9 on Gentoo

2017-11-17 Thread NP-Hardass
On 11/17/2017 04:15 AM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > On Fri, 17 Nov 2017 03:24:47 -0500 > "William L. Thomson Jr." wrote: >> >> The icedtea from source ebuild is a result of RedHat. The main person >> at RedHat responsible for their open source Java is the author of >> Icedtea. He uses Gentoo a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Java 9 on Gentoo

2017-11-17 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Fri, 17 Nov 2017 03:24:47 -0500 "William L. Thomson Jr." wrote: > > The icedtea from source ebuild is a result of RedHat. The main person > at RedHat responsible for their open source Java is the author of > Icedtea. He uses Gentoo as his development/test platform. Gentoo > usually will have th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Java 9 on Gentoo

2017-11-17 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
To really get crazy, another thing Gentoo likely won't see unless someone steps up. OpenJ9 alternative to HotSpot. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenJ9 https://github.com/ibmruntimes/openj9-openjdk-jdk9 https://www.slideshare.net/DanHeidinga/j9-under-the-hood-of-the-next-open-source-jvm -- Will

Re: [gentoo-dev] Java 9 on Gentoo

2017-11-17 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Fri, 17 Nov 2017 01:23:58 -0600 R0b0t1 wrote: > > I am confused. I was aware that IcedTea was a build system, but I am > not aware as to how Ubuntu packaged OpenJDK 9. Not sure without looking, but likely just shipping the binary of OpenJDK http://download.java.net/java/GA/jdk9/9.0.1/binaries

Re: [gentoo-dev] Java 9 on Gentoo

2017-11-16 Thread R0b0t1
On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 12:30 AM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 23:38:09 -0600 > R0b0t1 wrote: >> >> Hopefully this is not a tangent, but the OpenJDK release is available >> on Ubuntu. I have tried to understand the IcedTea build process and >> failed, as I was hoping that i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Java 9 on Gentoo

2017-11-16 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 23:38:09 -0600 R0b0t1 wrote: > > Hopefully this is not a tangent, but the OpenJDK release is available > on Ubuntu. I have tried to understand the IcedTea build process and > failed, as I was hoping that it could be packaged for Gentoo before > the official IcedTea release. I w

Re: [gentoo-dev] Java 9 on Gentoo

2017-11-16 Thread R0b0t1
Hello friends! I am excited about Java 9. However, I am a very excitable person. Hopefully this is not a tangent, but the OpenJDK release is available on Ubuntu. I have tried to understand the IcedTea build process and failed, as I was hoping that it could be packaged for Gentoo before the offici

Re: [gentoo-dev] Java 9 on Gentoo

2017-11-16 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 21:42:59 -0600 Matthew Thode wrote: > > You seem to know a bit about this, has there been a bug made outlining > the troubles we will encounter as you know them? No, I feel I am already doing more than I should to help given my past treatment. I have been making most issues wi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Java 9 on Gentoo

2017-11-16 Thread Matthew Thode
On 17-11-16 15:17:15, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > Just as a heads up, pass it along. For anyone interested. It will be > some time before Java 9 is available on Gentoo. It will take > considerable work to get it unmasked and safe for use. > > Once in tree masked, it will likely be very painful

[gentoo-dev] Java 9 on Gentoo

2017-11-16 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
Just as a heads up, pass it along. For anyone interested. It will be some time before Java 9 is available on Gentoo. It will take considerable work to get it unmasked and safe for use. Once in tree masked, it will likely be very painful for anyone who does unmask. You have been forewarned!!! NOT