Re: [gentoo-dev] Intent to help with #gentoo-dev voicing issues

2005-06-15 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Wednesday 15 June 2005 17:08, Marius Mauch wrote: > Andrej Kacian wrote: > > On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:03:44 +0900 > > > > Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Is that not a win/win situation? Where exactly is the "bureaucracy"? > > > > Maybe I used wrong term - I was thinking about time and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Intent to help with #gentoo-dev voicing issues

2005-06-15 Thread Marius Mauch
Andrej Kacian wrote: On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:03:44 +0900 Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is that not a win/win situation? Where exactly is the "bureaucracy"? Maybe I used wrong term - I was thinking about time and effort spent on setting up and maintaining the ircbot. I've been in ch

Re: [gentoo-dev] Intent to help with #gentoo-dev voicing issues

2005-06-15 Thread Jan Kundrát
Luca Barbato wrote: > Jan Kundrát wrote: > > >>Are you awake 24/7/365? If not, I probably misunderstood your message. >>If someone goes to IRC, he (IMHO) wants to discuss stuff *right now* and > > > right now is when you listener is pleased to listen, ALWAYS. Sorry, I can't parse this. >>don'

Re: [gentoo-dev] Intent to help with #gentoo-dev voicing issues

2005-06-15 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Wednesday 15 June 2005 12:03, Andrej Kacian wrote: > On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:54:20 +0200 > > Paul de Vrieze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It would be an easy contact point for users. The other way would > > certainly be still allowed, but it might be easier if there was a > > fixed "contact" eve

Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-dev] Intent to help with #gentoo-dev voicing issues

2005-06-15 Thread Thierry Carrez
Andrej Kacian wrote: >>Yes, ChrisWhite in a protocol IRC bot. Also speaks a few million >>languages, including Japanese. > > Who's R2D2 then? Also a Gentoo developer, living in Toronto, Canada. See the rollcall list... -- Koon -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Intent to help with #gentoo-dev voicing issues

2005-06-15 Thread Andrej Kacian
On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:03:44 +0900 Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is that not a win/win situation? Where exactly is the "bureaucracy"? Maybe I used wrong term - I was thinking about time and effort spent on setting up and maintaining the ircbot. I've been in charge of a large botnet in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Intent to help with #gentoo-dev voicing issues

2005-06-15 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Wednesday 15 June 2005 18:29, Andrej Kacian wrote: > On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:21:20 +0200 > > Paul de Vrieze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Why not create a "voicebot" that would sit in the irc channel (the > > subject would refer to it), that developers could send a message to, and > > that would

Re: [gentoo-dev] Intent to help with #gentoo-dev voicing issues

2005-06-15 Thread Andrej Kacian
On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:54:20 +0200 Paul de Vrieze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It would be an easy contact point for users. The other way would certainly > be still allowed, but it might be easier if there was a fixed "contact" > even if that is actually multiple people. Just out of curiosity -

Re: [gentoo-dev] Intent to help with #gentoo-dev voicing issues

2005-06-15 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Wednesday 15 June 2005 11:29, Andrej Kacian wrote: > Why needlessly create more artificial "bureaucracy" than is necessary? > There's nothing wrong with current system, except for one dev (one so > far, that is) who seems to be allergic to non-devs, and should take a > vacation or something. > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Intent to help with #gentoo-dev voicing issues

2005-06-15 Thread Andrej Kacian
On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:21:20 +0200 Paul de Vrieze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why not create a "voicebot" that would sit in the irc channel (the subject > would refer to it), that developers could send a message to, and that > would automatically be forwarded to a team of developers. If the bot

Re: [gentoo-dev] Intent to help with #gentoo-dev voicing issues

2005-06-15 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Tuesday 14 June 2005 23:02, Marius Mauch wrote: > On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:05:21 +0900 > > Chris White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>might I suggest not kicking #gentoo-dev visitors who ask for > > > >>voice to speak to the devs without a 'rtfm & go get a gentoo job' > > > >>smokescreen ? > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Intent to help with #gentoo-dev voicing issues

2005-06-15 Thread Luca Barbato
Jan Kundrát wrote: > > Are you awake 24/7/365? If not, I probably misunderstood your message. > If someone goes to IRC, he (IMHO) wants to discuss stuff *right now* and right now is when you listener is pleased to listen, ALWAYS. > don't want to wait for you to return from job/shopping/vacation

[OT] Re: [gentoo-dev] Intent to help with #gentoo-dev voicing issues

2005-06-15 Thread Andrej Kacian
On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:56:20 +0200 Thierry Carrez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, ChrisWhite in a protocol IRC bot. Also speaks a few million > languages, including Japanese. Who's R2D2 then? -- Andrej "Ticho" Kacian Gentoo Linux Developer - net-mail, antivirus, amd64 pgpx401uApuio.pgp Des

Re: [gentoo-dev] Intent to help with #gentoo-dev voicing issues

2005-06-15 Thread Thierry Carrez
Jan Kundrát wrote: > Chris White wrote: > >>I plan to create somewhat of a consistant contact point between irc users >>that want a voice in dev. > > Are you awake 24/7/365? Yes, ChrisWhite in a protocol IRC bot. Also speaks a few million languages, including Japanese. -- Koon -- gentoo-dev@

Re: [gentoo-dev] Intent to help with #gentoo-dev voicing issues

2005-06-14 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marius Mauch wrote: > Won't work. First it would introduce a single point of failure. If we'd > really follow this route there has to be a role for this, not a user. > Then how are people supposed to know about this in teh first place? I > wouldn't exp

Re: [gentoo-dev] Intent to help with #gentoo-dev voicing issues

2005-06-14 Thread Joshua Baergen
On 6/14/05, Jonathan Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Chris White wrote: > > [snip] > > if you feel that I have handled the situation properly regarding your > > voicing, please send an email to dev-relations and I'll be happy to work > > thi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Intent to help with #gentoo-dev voicing issues

2005-06-14 Thread Marius Mauch
On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:05:21 +0900 Chris White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>might I suggest not kicking #gentoo-dev visitors who ask for > > >>voice to speak to the devs without a 'rtfm & go get a gentoo job' > > >>smokescreen ? > > My intentions in this email were regarding the above worries

Re: [gentoo-dev] Intent to help with #gentoo-dev voicing issues

2005-06-14 Thread Jonathan Smith
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris White wrote: > [snip] > if you feel that I have handled the situation properly regarding your > voicing, please send an email to dev-relations and I'll be happy to work > things out. > [snip] just to clarify: you mean improperly, right? why wo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Intent to help with #gentoo-dev voicing issues

2005-06-14 Thread Jan Kundrát
Chris White wrote: > I plan to create somewhat of a consistant contact point between irc users > that want a voice in dev. Are you awake 24/7/365? If not, I probably misunderstood your message. If someone goes to IRC, he (IMHO) wants to discuss stuff *right now* and don't want to wait for you to

[gentoo-dev] Intent to help with #gentoo-dev voicing issues

2005-06-14 Thread Chris White
> >>might I suggest not kicking #gentoo-dev visitors who ask for voice to > >>speak to the devs without a 'rtfm & go get a gentoo job' smokescreen ? My intentions in this email were regarding the above worries about things. I plan to create somewhat of a consistant contact point between irc user