On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 19:25:58 +0200
Jeroen Roovers wrote:
> No, that's what you see from the inside. We, outside your head, the
> others, see it precisely as Brian worded it. Some people apparently
> tolerate or even appreciate your general (online) attitude towards
> humans, but most do not.
You'
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On 03/31/2012 10:52 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 12:44:03 +0300 Alex Alexander
> wrote:
>> @preserved-libs works very well and is awesome. hack or not. IMO
>> it should be in stable already. I've been using it on stable
>> produc
On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:59:00 +0100
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > I wouldn't care if it weren't the fact your gentoo dev posts
> > generally consist of "xyz is stupid, as is the people behind it"
> > whether it be portage, udev, council, etc, take your pick.
>
> No, what I actually say is *why* th
On 30 March 2012 14:25, Samuli Suominen wrote:
> Back to year 2009?
>
> http://www.gentoo.org/news/20091004-gentoo-10-years.xml
That never stopped anyone before
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_X-2
On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 18:39:21 +0300
Alex Alexander wrote:
> On Mar 31, 2012 5:57 PM, "Ciaran McCreesh"
> wrote:
> > On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:08:29 +0300
> > Alex Alexander wrote:
> > > No. I didn't say I think it works, I said I have proof it works.
> >
> > Well that's interesting, because there ar
On 03/31/12 23:38, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 23:30:07 +0800
> Patrick Lauer wrote:
>>> So you think Gentoo should advertise as "the chances of it working
>>> are greater than 0%"?
>>
>> I said better ... not repetitive trolls.
>>
>> If you cared about making things better you'd
On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 23:30:07 +0800
Patrick Lauer wrote:
> > So you think Gentoo should advertise as "the chances of it working
> > are greater than 0%"?
>
> I said better ... not repetitive trolls.
>
> If you cared about making things better you'd spend more time writing
> patches and less time
On Mar 31, 2012 5:57 PM, "Ciaran McCreesh"
wrote:
>
> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:08:29 +0300
> Alex Alexander wrote:
> > No. I didn't say I think it works, I said I have proof it works.
>
> Well that's interesting, because there are plenty of examples where it
> doesn't work, and all that it takes to
On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 23:07:04 +0800
Patrick Lauer wrote:
> > If you have a ten components, each of which 98% work, your overall
> > system is 80% reliable. If you have twenty such components, it's
> > down to 66% reliable. You're rapidly entering "when it breaks,
> > reinstall" territory here.
> >
On 03/31/12 23:01, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 19:00:00 +0800
> Patrick Lauer wrote:
>> Good enough is the worst enemy of perfect.
>>
>> While we have s 98% solution that doesn't handle all corner cases you
>> have a theoretical construct in your brain that might in theory cover
>
On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 19:00:00 +0800
Patrick Lauer wrote:
> Good enough is the worst enemy of perfect.
>
> While we have s 98% solution that doesn't handle all corner cases you
> have a theoretical construct in your brain that might in theory cover
> 100% of all cases, but it's in your brain where
On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 03:06:36 -0700
Brian Harring wrote:
> > The problem with preserved-libs (and emerge --jobs, for that
> > matter) is that the design is "I can think of a few ways where it
> > might break, so I'll hard-code in special cases to handle those,
> > but in general I can't think of wh
On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:08:29 +0300
Alex Alexander wrote:
> No. I didn't say I think it works, I said I have proof it works.
Well that's interesting, because there are plenty of examples where it
doesn't work, and all that it takes to disprove a theory is a single
counterexample. So I think you're
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 7:44 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
> (or hand me powers to remove people from ML :-)
>
That sounds like a great idea. We could create a code of conduct, and
then designate individuals to enforce it. Maybe we should call them
proctors:
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/c
On Mar 31, 2012 12:57 PM, "Ciaran McCreesh"
wrote:
>
> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 12:44:03 +0300
> Alex Alexander wrote:
> > @preserved-libs works very well and is awesome. hack or not. IMO it
> > should be in stable already. I've been using it on stable production
> > boxes for years without any issues
On 03/31/2012 01:06 PM, Brian Harring wrote:
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 10:52:53AM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 12:44:03 +0300
Alex Alexander wrote:
@preserved-libs works very well and is awesome. hack or not. IMO it
should be in stable already. I've been using it on stable p
On 03/31/12 17:52, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 12:44:03 +0300
> Alex Alexander wrote:
>> @preserved-libs works very well and is awesome. hack or not. IMO it
>> should be in stable already. I've been using it on stable production
>> boxes for years without any issues :)
>
> ...and
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 10:52:53AM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 12:44:03 +0300
> Alex Alexander wrote:
> > @preserved-libs works very well and is awesome. hack or not. IMO it
> > should be in stable already. I've been using it on stable production
> > boxes for years without
On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 12:44:03 +0300
Alex Alexander wrote:
> @preserved-libs works very well and is awesome. hack or not. IMO it
> should be in stable already. I've been using it on stable production
> boxes for years without any issues :)
...and here we see the problem. You think that "I haven't n
On Mar 31, 2012 11:00 AM, "Ciaran McCreesh"
wrote:
>
> On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 17:55:27 -0400
> Richard Yao wrote:
> > I think we should wait for Portage 2.2 to be stabilized before we
> > declare Gentoo 2.0. @preserved-libs is enough of an advance that I
> > think claiming 2.0 would be merited, if o
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 08:56:22AM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> Do you really want to be advertising an awful hack that doesn't really
> work, is conceptually unsound and that breaks all kinds of things in
> subtle ways?
Isn't that something all major distributions do? ;-)
Sven
On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 17:55:27 -0400
Richard Yao wrote:
> I think we should wait for Portage 2.2 to be stabilized before we
> declare Gentoo 2.0. @preserved-libs is enough of an advance that I
> think claiming 2.0 would be merited, if only for the attention it
> would draw at Phoronix.
Do you reall
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 5:55 PM, Richard Yao wrote:
> On 03/30/12 17:15, Joshua Kinard wrote:
>> Maybe it's time for Gentoo-2.0?
>
> I think we should wait for Portage 2.2 to be stabilized before we
> declare Gentoo 2.0. @preserved-libs is enough of an advance that I think
> claiming 2.0 would be
On 03/30/12 17:15, Joshua Kinard wrote:
> Maybe it's time for Gentoo-2.0?
I think we should wait for Portage 2.2 to be stabilized before we
declare Gentoo 2.0. @preserved-libs is enough of an advance that I think
claiming 2.0 would be merited, if only for the attention it would draw
at Phoronix.
On 03/30/2012 10:44, James Broadhead wrote:
>
> Remember when Gentoo had version numbers? (even though they got stuck
> at 1.4 for ages?) D'awww
Maybe it's time for Gentoo-2.0?
At that glacial pace, we should catch up to Firefox's versioning shortly
before the heat death of the Universe.
--
On 30 March 2012 14:25, Samuli Suominen wrote:
> On 03/30/2012 04:00 PM, Axel wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I would like to wish you all a happy birthday, 10 years already since
>> first release (Gentoo 1.0)! Here is a little thing [1] we made to
>> celebrate it. Recipe: two layers of Génoise (for eac
On 03/30/2012 04:00 PM, Axel wrote:
Hello,
I would like to wish you all a happy birthday, 10 years already since
first release (Gentoo 1.0)! Here is a little thing [1] we made to
celebrate it. Recipe: two layers of Génoise (for each: 6 eggs, 180g
sucre, 180g farine, vanilla sugar), between layer
Hello,
I would like to wish you all a happy birthday, 10 years already since
first release (Gentoo 1.0)! Here is a little thing [1] we made to
celebrate it. Recipe: two layers of Génoise (for each: 6 eggs, 180g
sucre, 180g farine, vanilla sugar), between layers and on top: full
cream with beaten e
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