Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting the general dev opinion ("Meinungsbild") on some feature

2013-01-21 Thread Rémi Cardona
Hi Andreas, Le dimanche 20 janvier 2013 à 16:20 +0100, Andreas K. Huettel a écrit : > So, a thread like "Should we enable useflag Z by default" would then include > "Please discuss here, vote on ..." with a link to the count page (updated via > cron every 1h). On login to ..., a message similar t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting the general dev opinion ("Meinungsbild") on some feature

2013-01-20 Thread Alec Warner
On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 6:28 PM, Peter Stuge wrote: > Alec Warner wrote: > [..removed 25 lines of quoted text which I had already read..] >> The primary complaint was the fact that there is too much email. > > Many emails are not neccessarily a problem if only they have high > signal-to-noise rati

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting the general dev opinion ("Meinungsbild") on some feature

2013-01-20 Thread Peter Stuge
Alec Warner wrote: [..removed 25 lines of quoted text which I had already read..] > The primary complaint was the fact that there is too much email. Many emails are not neccessarily a problem if only they have high signal-to-noise ratio. I have *never* seen so competent people output so incompete

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting the general dev opinion ("Meinungsbild") on some feature

2013-01-20 Thread Alec Warner
On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > Am Sonntag, 20. Januar 2013, 10:39:58 schrieb Rich Freeman: >> >> What's the point? I don't think democracy is the best way to handle >> these sorts of things. > > LOL. Yeah, but haven't we tried to give ourselves rules that at least re

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting the general dev opinion ("Meinungsbild") on some feature

2013-01-20 Thread Panagiotis Christopoulos
On 17:52 Sun 20 Jan , Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > > > > > *the thing with USE flags is a big change. > > You're kidding, right? > > If we seriously start doing that, we'll either get slapped with "dont bother > us with that" by the council members, or nobody wants to run for council > an

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting the general dev opinion ("Meinungsbild") on some feature

2013-01-20 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Sonntag, 20. Januar 2013, 10:39:58 schrieb Rich Freeman: > > What's the point? I don't think democracy is the best way to handle > these sorts of things. LOL. Yeah, but haven't we tried to give ourselves rules that at least resemble it? If I wanted to find out expert opinions and act on tha

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting the general dev opinion ("Meinungsbild") on some feature

2013-01-20 Thread Michał Górny
On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 16:20:42 +0100 "Andreas K. Huettel" wrote: > I would like to suggest and ask your opinion on a simple way of getting the > developers' collective opinion: cast votes with a shell script on our > favourite shell server, which is then displayed on a web page (either only as >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting the general dev opinion ("Meinungsbild") on some feature

2013-01-20 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> > *the thing with USE flags is a big change. You're kidding, right? If we seriously start doing that, we'll either get slapped with "dont bother us with that" by the council members, or nobody wants to run for council anymore. -- Andreas K. Huettel Gentoo Linux developer dilfri...@gento

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting the general dev opinion ("Meinungsbild") on some feature

2013-01-20 Thread Alec Warner
On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 7:39 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Andreas K. Huettel > wrote: >> So, a thread like "Should we enable useflag Z by default" would then include >> "Please discuss here, vote on ..." with a link to the count page (updated via >> cron every 1h).

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting the general dev opinion ("Meinungsbild") on some feature

2013-01-20 Thread Panagiotis Christopoulos
On 16:20 Sun 20 Jan , Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > I would like to suggest and ask your opinion on a simple way of getting the > developers' collective opinion: cast votes with a shell script on our > favourite shell server, which is then displayed on a web page (either only as > stats, or wi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting the general dev opinion ("Meinungsbild") on some feature

2013-01-20 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > So, a thread like "Should we enable useflag Z by default" would then include > "Please discuss here, vote on ..." with a link to the count page (updated via > cron every 1h). On login to ..., a message similar to the "open elections > m

[gentoo-dev] Getting the general dev opinion ("Meinungsbild") on some feature

2013-01-20 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Hi everyone, we've now had a few cases where mails were sent to this list to get a general opinion whether * some change should be implemented * some feature is still needed * ... While discussing this on a mailing list is nice, there are some disadvantages: * Threads are easily hijacked, an