Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting proper USE_EXPAND variable(s) for multilib

2013-01-23 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 21:36:22 +0400 Alexey Shvetsov wrote: > В письме от 23 января 2013 08:03:56 пользователь Alexis Ballier > написал: > > On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:24:26 +0100 > > > > Michał Górny wrote: > > > On Mon, 21 Jan 2013 10:27:30 -0300 > > > > > > Alexis Ballier wrote: > > > > > To be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting proper USE_EXPAND variable(s) for multilib

2013-01-23 Thread Alexey Shvetsov
В письме от 23 января 2013 08:03:56 пользователь Alexis Ballier написал: > On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:24:26 +0100 > > Michał Górny wrote: > > On Mon, 21 Jan 2013 10:27:30 -0300 > > > > Alexis Ballier wrote: > > > > To be honest, I don't know if there's other way to hide USE flags > > > > than using

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting proper USE_EXPAND variable(s) for multilib

2013-01-23 Thread Michał Górny
On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 16:27:17 +0100 Michał Górny wrote: > On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 08:03:56 -0300 > Alexis Ballier wrote: > > > On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:24:26 +0100 > > Michał Górny wrote: > > > > > On Mon, 21 Jan 2013 10:27:30 -0300 > > > Alexis Ballier wrote: > > > > > > > > To be honest, I don't

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting proper USE_EXPAND variable(s) for multilib

2013-01-23 Thread Michał Górny
On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 08:03:56 -0300 Alexis Ballier wrote: > On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:24:26 +0100 > Michał Górny wrote: > > > On Mon, 21 Jan 2013 10:27:30 -0300 > > Alexis Ballier wrote: > > > > > > To be honest, I don't know if there's other way to hide USE flags > > > > than using USE_EXPAND_HI

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting proper USE_EXPAND variable(s) for multilib

2013-01-23 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:24:26 +0100 Michał Górny wrote: > On Mon, 21 Jan 2013 10:27:30 -0300 > Alexis Ballier wrote: > > > > To be honest, I don't know if there's other way to hide USE flags > > > than using USE_EXPAND_HIDDEN. If we want to use that, we'd have > > > to split the flags per-arch,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting proper USE_EXPAND variable(s) for multilib

2013-01-23 Thread Michał Górny
On Mon, 21 Jan 2013 10:27:30 -0300 Alexis Ballier wrote: > > To be honest, I don't know if there's other way to hide USE flags than > > using USE_EXPAND_HIDDEN. If we want to use that, we'd have to split > > the flags per-arch, i.e. have: > > > > MULTILIB_AMD64="abi1 abi2 abi3" > > MULTILIB_

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting proper USE_EXPAND variable(s) for multilib

2013-01-21 Thread Michał Górny
On Mon, 21 Jan 2013 10:27:30 -0300 Alexis Ballier wrote: > > To be honest, I don't know if there's other way to hide USE flags than > > using USE_EXPAND_HIDDEN. If we want to use that, we'd have to split > > the flags per-arch, i.e. have: > > > > MULTILIB_AMD64="abi1 abi2 abi3" > > MULTILIB_

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting proper USE_EXPAND variable(s) for multilib

2013-01-21 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 23:33:39 +0100 Michał Górny wrote: [...] > > Do you plan to keep precise depends for packages? > > like glibc[abi_x32]/gcc[abi_x32] for all libraries requesting x32. > > Yes. ${MULTILIB_USEDEP} is for that (it currently evaluates > to 'multilib?'). In that very precise case

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting proper USE_EXPAND variable(s) for multilib

2013-01-21 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 20:11:31 +0100 Michał Górny wrote: > Hello, > > There is a fair interest in multilib and while still early, it would > be a good moment to decide on how USE flags to use for it. > > The current attempts are mostly using USE=multilib which is not really > expressive and poor.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting proper USE_EXPAND variable(s) for multilib

2013-01-20 Thread Matt Turner
On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Thomas Sachau wrote: > So you want to re-implement multilib-portage in an eclass without the > additional benefits a package-manager level implementation has? I really wish you'd just make the PMS diff and get your stuff implemented. How long has it been?

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting proper USE_EXPAND variable(s) for multilib

2013-01-20 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Thomas Sachau schrieb: > So you want to re-implement multilib-portage in an eclass without the > additional benefits a package-manager level implementation has? Once the package-manager level implementation becomes available in g-x86 then we can switch to it. If something in the proposed changes

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting proper USE_EXPAND variable(s) for multilib

2013-01-20 Thread Thomas Sachau
Gilles Dartiguelongue schrieb: > Le lundi 21 janvier 2013 à 00:01 +0100, Thomas Sachau a écrit : >> Michał Górny schrieb: >>> Hello, >>> >>> There is a fair interest in multilib and while still early, it would be >>> a good moment to decide on how USE flags to use for it. >>> >>> The current attemp

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting proper USE_EXPAND variable(s) for multilib

2013-01-20 Thread Gilles Dartiguelongue
Le lundi 21 janvier 2013 à 00:01 +0100, Thomas Sachau a écrit : > Michał Górny schrieb: > > Hello, > > > > There is a fair interest in multilib and while still early, it would be > > a good moment to decide on how USE flags to use for it. > > > > The current attempts are mostly using USE=multilib

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting proper USE_EXPAND variable(s) for multilib

2013-01-20 Thread Michał Górny
On Mon, 21 Jan 2013 00:01:05 +0100 Thomas Sachau wrote: > Michał Górny schrieb: > > Hello, > > > > There is a fair interest in multilib and while still early, it would be > > a good moment to decide on how USE flags to use for it. > > > > The current attempts are mostly using USE=multilib which

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting proper USE_EXPAND variable(s) for multilib

2013-01-20 Thread Thomas Sachau
Sergei Trofimovich schrieb: > On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 20:11:31 +0100 > Michał Górny wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> There is a fair interest in multilib and while still early, it would be >> a good moment to decide on how USE flags to use for it. >> >> The current attempts are mostly using USE=multilib whic

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting proper USE_EXPAND variable(s) for multilib

2013-01-20 Thread Thomas Sachau
Michał Górny schrieb: > Hello, > > There is a fair interest in multilib and while still early, it would be > a good moment to decide on how USE flags to use for it. > > The current attempts are mostly using USE=multilib which is not really > expressive and poor. What I would go for is a clear var

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting proper USE_EXPAND variable(s) for multilib

2013-01-20 Thread Michał Górny
On Mon, 21 Jan 2013 01:05:56 +0300 Sergei Trofimovich wrote: > On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 20:11:31 +0100 > Michał Górny wrote: > > > There is a fair interest in multilib and while still early, it would be > > a good moment to decide on how USE flags to use for it. > > > > The current attempts are mos

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting proper USE_EXPAND variable(s) for multilib

2013-01-20 Thread Sergei Trofimovich
On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 20:11:31 +0100 Michał Górny wrote: > Hello, > > There is a fair interest in multilib and while still early, it would be > a good moment to decide on how USE flags to use for it. > > The current attempts are mostly using USE=multilib which is not really > expressive and poor.

[gentoo-dev] Getting proper USE_EXPAND variable(s) for multilib

2013-01-20 Thread Michał Górny
Hello, There is a fair interest in multilib and while still early, it would be a good moment to decide on how USE flags to use for it. The current attempts are mostly using USE=multilib which is not really expressive and poor. What I would go for is a clear variable specifying which targets packa