Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo 2006.1

2006-09-03 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Sun, 2006-09-03 at 17:40 +0100, Stuart Herbert wrote: > On 9/3/06, Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > in the end > > GCC-4.1 going stable is up to releng and arch teams (heck it doesn't > > technically have to go stable on all arches). So who "screwed up" in > > this case? > > Well, fo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo 2006.1

2006-09-03 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Sat, 2006-09-02 at 22:55 +0100, Stuart Herbert wrote: > On 9/2/06, Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Give us about 3000 more developers, and sure* ;) > > I don't think that that's good thing to be saying to our users. > > We didn't need 3000 more developers ... we just needed to give

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo 2006.1

2006-09-03 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Sat, 2006-09-02 at 12:34 +0200, Edgar Hucek wrote: > Apeal on extended testing : > > Developer, please test things more carefull before you > release it. I hear this (pardon my "French") BULLSHIT all the time from our developers. Look, people, I asked multiple times for assistance with testi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo 2006.1

2006-09-03 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Sun, 3 Sep 2006 17:44:32 +0100 "Stuart Herbert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 9/3/06, Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Because the thought that stable is always "stable" or that because > > we released things are "stable" is incorrect ;) > > You're not supposed to break the stable

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo 2006.1

2006-09-03 Thread Stuart Herbert
On 9/3/06, Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Because the thought that stable is always "stable" or that because we released things are "stable" is incorrect ;) You're not supposed to break the stable tree; that surely must include stabilising a compiler (which is the _default_ for new inst

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo 2006.1

2006-09-03 Thread Stuart Herbert
On 9/3/06, Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: in the end GCC-4.1 going stable is up to releng and arch teams (heck it doesn't technically have to go stable on all arches). So who "screwed up" in this case? Well, for a package like PHP, the package maintainers take responsibility for ensuri

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo 2006.1

2006-09-03 Thread Alec Warner
Jeff Rollin wrote: > > It seams that USE flags are not realy tested or how > can it happen that there are already know bugs in the > stable distro ? > > Just like to make the point that if something requires a dependency in > ~arch (unstable), then it isn't/shouldn't be in arch (stable). > Beca

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo 2006.1

2006-09-03 Thread Christel Dahlskjaer
On Sun, 2006-09-03 at 10:36 -0400, Alec Warner wrote: > Stuart Herbert wrote: > > On 9/3/06, Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> And no one has implemented any kind of solution. > > > > You need someone to implement a solution? Surely what we need is for > > folks to actually make an anno

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo 2006.1

2006-09-03 Thread Jeff Rollin
It seams that USE flags are not realy tested or howcan it happen that there are already know bugs in thestable distro ?Just like to make the point that if something requires a dependency in ~arch (unstable), then it isn't/shouldn't be in arch (stable).

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo 2006.1

2006-09-03 Thread Alec Warner
Stuart Herbert wrote: > On 9/3/06, Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> And no one has implemented any kind of solution. > > You need someone to implement a solution? Surely what we need is for > folks to actually make an announcement in the first place? > > I asked for what has become GLEP

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo 2006.1

2006-09-03 Thread Stuart Herbert
On 9/3/06, Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: And no one has implemented any kind of solution. You need someone to implement a solution? Surely what we need is for folks to actually make an announcement in the first place? I asked for what has become GLEP 42 because we do have a problem r

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo 2006.1

2006-09-02 Thread Dan Meltzer
On 9/2/06, Stuart Herbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 9/2/06, Dan Meltzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 9/2/06, Stuart Herbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 9/2/06, Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Give us about 3000 more developers, and sure* ;) > > > > I don't think that tha

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo 2006.1

2006-09-02 Thread Stuart Herbert
On 9/2/06, Dan Meltzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 9/2/06, Stuart Herbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 9/2/06, Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Give us about 3000 more developers, and sure* ;) > > I don't think that that's good thing to be saying to our users. Is it a bad thing to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo 2006.1

2006-09-02 Thread Dan Meltzer
On 9/2/06, Stuart Herbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 9/2/06, Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Give us about 3000 more developers, and sure* ;) I don't think that that's good thing to be saying to our users. Is it a bad thing to be saying to your developers? We didn't need 3000 mor

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo 2006.1

2006-09-02 Thread Stuart Herbert
On 9/2/06, Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Give us about 3000 more developers, and sure* ;) I don't think that that's good thing to be saying to our users. We didn't need 3000 more developers ... we just needed to give the developers we have more reasonable notice. This is the second t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo 2006.1

2006-09-02 Thread Joshua Jackson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Edgar Hucek wrote: > Apeal on extended testing : > > Developer, please test things more carefull before you > release it. > I already found things which does not compile out of > the box. > 1.) Use wacom does not compile out of the box. You > have to u

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo 2006.1

2006-09-02 Thread Alec Warner
Edgar Hucek wrote: > >>From my point of view, should it be garanted that a package and depencies > compiles when all use flags are enabled. If a depency can't be compiled the > use flag and depence should be dissabled/removed from a package. > > > cu > > Edgar (gimli) Hucek Give us about 3000

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2006-09-02 Thread Danny van Dyk
Am Samstag, 2. September 2006 13:18 schrieb Edgar Hucek: > >> 2.) Enable the use flage accessibility gnome cant be > >> merged. It fails on compile the speech-tools. > >> It seams that USE flags are not realy tested or how > >> can it happen that there are already know bugs in the > >> stable distr

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo 2006.1

2006-09-02 Thread Edgar Hucek
Jakub Moc schrieb: > Edgar Hucek wrote: >> Apeal on extended testing : >> >> Developer, please test things more carefull before you >> release it. >> I already found things which does not compile out of >> the box. >> 1.) Use wacom does not compile out of the box. You >> have to unmask linuxwacom.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo 2006.1

2006-09-02 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 12:34:38 +0200 Edgar Hucek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Apeal on extended testing : > > Developer, please test things more carefull before you > release it. There are over 10,000 packages in the tree (11247 to be exact); each of which can be built many ways with USE flags.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo 2006.1

2006-09-02 Thread Jakub Moc
Edgar Hucek wrote: > Apeal on extended testing : > > Developer, please test things more carefull before you > release it. > I already found things which does not compile out of > the box. > 1.) Use wacom does not compile out of the box. You > have to unmask linuxwacom. Shrug. Noone even filed a

[gentoo-dev] Gentoo 2006.1

2006-09-02 Thread Edgar Hucek
Apeal on extended testing : Developer, please test things more carefull before you release it. I already found things which does not compile out of the box. 1.) Use wacom does not compile out of the box. You have to unmask linuxwacom. 2.) Enable the use flage accessibility gnome cant be merged. I