Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-Status

2006-08-23 Thread Sune Kloppenborg Jeppesen
On Tuesday 22 August 2006 02:06, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > Bringing up something I proposed previously... How about having teams > that are considered 'important' (not a fixed list; this can vary > depending upon what's going on) or 'to be having issues' deliver status > reports to the council for t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-Status

2006-08-22 Thread Lance Albertson
Simon Stelling wrote: > Lance Albertson wrote: >> I generally try to do that, but after the 10th time the person doesn't >> respect you and demands things from you, its kind of hard to keep that >> mentality. > > Well, one out of >300. Simply do it for someone else then ;) > And that's what I do

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-Status

2006-08-22 Thread Simon Stelling
Lance Albertson wrote: > I generally try to do that, but after the 10th time the person doesn't > respect you and demands things from you, its kind of hard to keep that > mentality. Well, one out of >300. Simply do it for someone else then ;) -- Kind Regards, Simon Stelling Gentoo/AMD64 Develop

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-Status

2006-08-22 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 14:45:45 + Elfyn McBratney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | On Tue, Aug 22, 2006 at 03:40:31PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | > On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:33:17 +0200 Simon Stelling | > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | > | Respect is something that should be applied unconditionally,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-Status

2006-08-22 Thread Elfyn McBratney
On Tue, Aug 22, 2006 at 03:40:31PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:33:17 +0200 Simon Stelling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > | Respect is something that should be applied unconditionally, in my > | opinion. The "you don't so I won't" attitude gets us nowhere. > > But i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-Status

2006-08-22 Thread Lance Albertson
Simon Stelling wrote: > Lance Albertson wrote: >> Frankly, the attitude of a lot devs lately towards infra >> have made many of us not want to communicate what we're doing. If we're > > I can understand that, partly. But that won't help anyone. Assuming > you're not thinking *nobody* outside infra

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-Status

2006-08-22 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:33:17 +0200 Simon Stelling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Respect is something that should be applied unconditionally, in my | opinion. The "you don't so I won't" attitude gets us nowhere. But if respect is unearned and undeserved, it's meaningless. What's the point of being r

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-Status

2006-08-22 Thread Simon Stelling
Lance Albertson wrote: > Frankly, the attitude of a lot devs lately towards infra > have made many of us not want to communicate what we're doing. If we're I can understand that, partly. But that won't help anyone. Assuming you're not thinking *nobody* outside infra does respect you, try to write

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-Status

2006-08-22 Thread Lance Albertson
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 18:56:11 -0400 Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > | I request that these teams present status reports bi-weekly (thats one > | every two weeks). You don't even have to write the reports, I will > | volunteer to bug you every two weeks about what

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-Status

2006-08-22 Thread Alec Warner
Marius Mauch wrote: > On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 18:56:11 -0400 > Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> It has been noted that certain projects do not communicate their >> activities well. >> >> Many projects provide documentation for things(java), provide status >> updates on things(ppc), have bit

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-Status

2006-08-21 Thread Marius Mauch
On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 18:56:11 -0400 Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It has been noted that certain projects do not communicate their > activities well. > > Many projects provide documentation for things(java), provide status > updates on things(ppc), have bits in the gwn (x86,userrel,amd6

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-Status

2006-08-21 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 20:21:15 -0400 Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | The problem with them delivering is that many would probably just not | show up. Hence why I said 'to the council for their monthly meeting', not 'at the council's monthly meeting'. -- Ciaran McCreesh Mail: c

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-Status

2006-08-21 Thread Alec Warner
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 18:56:11 -0400 Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > | I request that these teams present status reports bi-weekly (thats one > | every two weeks). You don't even have to write the reports, I will > | volunteer to bug you every two weeks about what

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-Status

2006-08-21 Thread Alec Warner
Kevin F. Quinn wrote: > On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 18:56:11 -0400 > Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> [...] So below we have 3 large far-reaching projects. >> >> Gentoo Quality Assurance Team >> Gentoo Infrastructure Team >> Gentoo Portage Team >> Gentoo Foundation >> Gentoo Council >> >> All 5

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-Status

2006-08-21 Thread Joshua Jackson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Seemant Kulleen wrote: > Your concerns are well noted. The trustees in general are quiet even > amongst themselves, but I hope this changes with the new board coming in > next week (ish?). It's been my idea to propose that someone (tsunam was > in my

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-Status

2006-08-21 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 18:56:11 -0400 Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | I request that these teams present status reports bi-weekly (thats one | every two weeks). You don't even have to write the reports, I will | volunteer to bug you every two weeks about what is going on in your | project an

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-Status

2006-08-21 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 18:56:11 -0400 Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [...] So below we have 3 large far-reaching projects. > > Gentoo Quality Assurance Team > Gentoo Infrastructure Team > Gentoo Portage Team > Gentoo Foundation > Gentoo Council > > All 5 of these projects are active it's

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-Status

2006-08-21 Thread Seemant Kulleen
Your concerns are well noted. The trustees in general are quiet even amongst themselves, but I hope this changes with the new board coming in next week (ish?). It's been my idea to propose that someone (tsunam was in my head) publish a trustee monthly news or something. The one I'm curious about

[gentoo-dev] Gentoo-Status

2006-08-21 Thread Alec Warner
It has been noted that certain projects do not communicate their activities well. Many projects provide documentation for things(java), provide status updates on things(ppc), have bits in the gwn (x86,userrel,amd64), Release releases (releng), or have active webpages (adopt-a-dev, bugday) There a