Re: [gentoo-dev] GPL and Source code providing

2006-06-28 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Wed, 2006-06-28 at 21:48 +0200, Luca Barbato wrote: > Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > > On Wednesday 28 June 2006 17:42, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > >> This is a common misconception. All that you really need to provide is > >> the patches. > > Not really, no. As Ciaran already said, FSF seems

Re: [gentoo-dev] GPL and Source code providing

2006-06-28 Thread Luca Barbato
Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > On Wednesday 28 June 2006 17:42, Chris Gianelloni wrote: >> This is a common misconception. All that you really need to provide is >> the patches. > Not really, no. As Ciaran already said, FSF seems not to think this way and > this is the most important thing on

Re: [gentoo-dev] GPL and Source code providing

2006-06-28 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 11:55:47 -0500 Mike Doty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Perhaps you should take another English class before you make a bigger | fool out of yourself than you just did. I don't think Gentoo developers should be making those kinds of comments towards users, no matter how much they

Re: [gentoo-dev] GPL and Source code providing

2006-06-28 Thread Mike Doty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mivz wrote: > That other people don't have a 9 line counting footer and are not > official Gentoo developers does not say they are so much different from > you or stupid. > You called me selfish, childish and a M$ lover... > Well... I'm a squatter, I t

Re: [gentoo-dev] GPL and Source code providing

2006-06-28 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Wednesday 28 June 2006 17:42, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > This is a common misconception.  All that you really need to provide is > the patches. Not really, no. As Ciaran already said, FSF seems not to think this way and this is the most important thing on that article. But there's a simple way

Re: [gentoo-dev] GPL and Source code providing

2006-06-28 Thread Luca Barbato
Mivz wrote: > > You called me selfish, childish Whoever complains about the distribution rules from GPL after using GPL'd source/stuff is... > and a M$ lover... Never said. > Well... I'm a squatter, I try to live anarchistic and I do not prejudge > people. And if I disagree... I certainly do

Re: [gentoo-dev] GPL and Source code providing

2006-06-28 Thread Mivz
Mike Doty wrote: > Then you miss the entire point of GPL. You "own" your code, but if you > derive it from something that is GPL, then you must comply with the GPL. > The GPL exists to protect the author from what you're trying to do. > Your statement also goes against the whole concept of free s

Re: [gentoo-dev] GPL and Source code providing

2006-06-28 Thread Mivz
Chris Gianelloni wrote: > On Wed, 2006-06-28 at 17:18 +0200, Mivz wrote: >> Mike Doty wrote: >>> Mivz wrote: > Then I have got this one question, I don't need a answer too. > > How free is free software if you need a lawyer and a expensive server > just to be able to publish your ad

Re: [gentoo-dev] GPL and Source code providing

2006-06-28 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 11:42:47 -0400 Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | This is a common misconception. All that you really need to provide | is the patches. Careful with that. The GNU people say otherwise. http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#DistributingSourceIsInconvenient -- C

Re: [gentoo-dev] GPL and Source code providing

2006-06-28 Thread Mivz
Mike Doty wrote: > Mivz wrote: >>> Mike Doty wrote: Mivz wrote: >> Then I have got this one question, I don't need a answer too. >> >> How free is free software if you need a lawyer and a expensive server >> just to be able to publish your addition under your own name? >> >

Re: [gentoo-dev] GPL and Source code providing

2006-06-28 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Wed, 2006-06-28 at 17:18 +0200, Mivz wrote: > Mike Doty wrote: > > Mivz wrote: > >>> Then I have got this one question, I don't need a answer too. > >>> > >>> How free is free software if you need a lawyer and a expensive server > >>> just to be able to publish your addition under your own name?

Re: [gentoo-dev] GPL and Source code providing

2006-06-28 Thread Mike Doty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mivz wrote: > Mike Doty wrote: >> Mivz wrote: Then I have got this one question, I don't need a answer too. How free is free software if you need a lawyer and a expensive server just to be able to publish your addition under your ow

Re: [gentoo-dev] GPL and Source code providing

2006-06-28 Thread Mivz
Mike Doty wrote: > Mivz wrote: >>> Then I have got this one question, I don't need a answer too. >>> >>> How free is free software if you need a lawyer and a expensive server >>> just to be able to publish your addition under your own name? >>> > Very free. There are many project sites that will h

Re: [gentoo-dev] GPL and Source code providing

2006-06-28 Thread Stuart Herbert
On 6/28/06, Mivz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How free is free software if you need a lawyer and a expensive server just to be able to publish your addition under your own name? With the GPL v2, you don't need a server at all. You're perfectly entitled to distribute the code on DVD (for example)

Re: [gentoo-dev] GPL and Source code providing

2006-06-28 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Wednesday 28 June 2006 16:28, Mivz wrote: > How free is free software if you need a lawyer and a expensive server > just to be able to publish your addition under your own name? There is nothing preventing you from just publishing a patch with your name. The problem arises only if you distribu

Re: [gentoo-dev] GPL and Source code providing

2006-06-28 Thread Greg KH
On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 04:28:42PM +0200, Mivz wrote: > How free is free software if you need a lawyer and a expensive server > just to be able to publish your addition under your own name? *plonk* -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] GPL and Source code providing

2006-06-28 Thread Mike Doty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mivz wrote: > Then I have got this one question, I don't need a answer too. > > How free is free software if you need a lawyer and a expensive server > just to be able to publish your addition under your own name? > Very free. There are many project

Re: [gentoo-dev] GPL and Source code providing

2006-06-28 Thread Mivz
Kevin F. Quinn wrote: > On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 11:21:45 +0200 > Mivz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Does this obligation, to provide your own source, also count for a >> none Gentoo developer making a overlay tree for one of his projects >> which is licensed under de GPL-2? > > If your project is l

Re: [gentoo-dev] GPL and Source code providing

2006-06-28 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 11:21:45 +0200 Mivz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does this obligation, to provide your own source, also count for a > none Gentoo developer making a overlay tree for one of his projects > which is licensed under de GPL-2? If your project is licensed under the GPL-2, you have t

Re: [gentoo-dev] GPL and Source code providing

2006-06-28 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Wednesday 28 June 2006 12:47, Mivz wrote: > So that would not be when a stage 3 install cd for the Overlay tree is > published? Because that cd contains binary precomplied packages. Well, IANAL and as Stuart said the last word is up to trustees, but from my understanding, as long as the overlay

Re: [gentoo-dev] GPL and Source code providing

2006-06-28 Thread Mivz
Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > On Wednesday 28 June 2006 11:21, Mivz wrote: >> Does this obligation, to provide your own source, also count for a none >> Gentoo developer making a overlay tree for one of his projects which is >> licensed under de GPL-2? Because that is a derived distro form Gen

Re: [gentoo-dev] GPL and Source code providing

2006-06-28 Thread Stuart Herbert
Hi, On 6/28/06, Mivz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello, I have just read the following story, which scared me a bit: http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=06/06/23/1728205&tid=150 Does this obligation, to provide your own source, also count for a none Gentoo developer making a overlay t

Re: [gentoo-dev] GPL and Source code providing

2006-06-28 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Wednesday 28 June 2006 11:21, Mivz wrote: > Does this obligation, to provide your own source, also count for a none > Gentoo developer making a overlay tree for one of his projects which is > licensed under de GPL-2? Because that is a derived distro form Gentoo > right? The problem there is with

[gentoo-dev] GPL and Source code providing

2006-06-28 Thread Mivz
Hello, I have just read the following story, which scared me a bit: http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=06/06/23/1728205&tid=150 Does this obligation, to provide your own source, also count for a none Gentoo developer making a overlay tree for one of his projects which is licensed under