Re: [gentoo-dev] Evaluating a new malloc()

2013-03-19 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 26 February 2013 11:44:31 Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Alec Warner wrote: > > I see a *HUGE* reason. glibc ships with ptmalloc. If you think they > > should use jemalloc, talk to them. Don't just do it in Gentoo. > > Certainly I think it would be far more prod

Re: [gentoo-dev] Evaluating a new malloc()

2013-02-27 Thread Sergei Trofimovich
On Tue, 26 Feb 2013 08:33:44 -0500 Richard Yao wrote: > The Blender project found some fairly remarkable discrepancies between > what their software actually used and what glibc's ptmalloc allocated: > > http://www.sintel.org/development/memory-jemalloc/ > > Results such as these led Blender an

Re: [gentoo-dev] Evaluating a new malloc()

2013-02-26 Thread William Hubbs
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 11:10:09AM -0800, Matt Turner wrote: > On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 8:35 AM, Alec Warner wrote: > > In terms of 'following Gentoo policy.' We encourage packages to be as > > close to upstream as possible. I cannot fathom why when you basically > > find a performance bug in mallo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Evaluating a new malloc()

2013-02-26 Thread Matt Turner
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Maciej Mrozowski wrote: > On Tuesday 26 of February 2013 11:44:31 Rich Freeman wrote: >> On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Alec Warner wrote: >> > I see a *HUGE* reason. glibc ships with ptmalloc. If you think they >> > should use jemalloc, talk to them. Don't jus

Re: [gentoo-dev] Evaluating a new malloc()

2013-02-26 Thread Jeff Horelick
On 26 February 2013 16:37, Maciej Mrozowski wrote: > On Tuesday 26 of February 2013 11:44:31 Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Alec Warner > wrote: > > > I see a *HUGE* reason. glibc ships with ptmalloc. If you think they > > > should use jemalloc, talk to them. Don't jus

Re: [gentoo-dev] Evaluating a new malloc()

2013-02-26 Thread Maciej Mrozowski
On Tuesday 26 of February 2013 11:44:31 Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Alec Warner wrote: > > I see a *HUGE* reason. glibc ships with ptmalloc. If you think they > > should use jemalloc, talk to them. Don't just do it in Gentoo. > > Certainly I think it would be far more

Re: [gentoo-dev] Evaluating a new malloc()

2013-02-26 Thread Matt Turner
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 8:35 AM, Alec Warner wrote: > In terms of 'following Gentoo policy.' We encourage packages to be as > close to upstream as possible. I cannot fathom why when you basically > find a performance bug in malloc, you start a thread on the list about > replacing it; as opposed to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Evaluating a new malloc()

2013-02-26 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Alec Warner wrote: > I see a *HUGE* reason. glibc ships with ptmalloc. If you think they > should use jemalloc, talk to them. Don't just do it in Gentoo. Certainly I think it would be far more productive to talk to the glibc maintainers first. However, nothing p

Re: [gentoo-dev] Evaluating a new malloc()

2013-02-26 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Richard Yao wrote: > Unless a significant issue is found in jemalloc itself, I do not see any > reason to continue using glibc's ptmalloc over jemalloc. As far as I > know, FreeBSD, NetBSD, Facebook and others are using jemalloc, so I > expect that no significant i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Evaluating a new malloc()

2013-02-26 Thread Alec Warner
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 5:33 AM, Richard Yao wrote: > The Blender project found some fairly remarkable discrepancies between > what their software actually used and what glibc's ptmalloc allocated: > > http://www.sintel.org/development/memory-jemalloc/ > > Results such as these led Blender and oth

Re: [gentoo-dev] Evaluating a new malloc()

2013-02-26 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 26.02.2013 14:52, schrieb Richard Yao: > On 02/26/2013 08:48 AM, Alexander Berntsen wrote: >> On 26/02/13 14:33, Richard Yao wrote: >>> The Blender project found some fairly remarkable discrepancies >>> between what their software actually used and what glibc's ptmalloc >>> allocated >> Have the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Evaluating a new malloc()

2013-02-26 Thread Richard Yao
On 02/26/2013 08:48 AM, Alexander Berntsen wrote: > On 26/02/13 14:33, Richard Yao wrote: >> The Blender project found some fairly remarkable discrepancies >> between what their software actually used and what glibc's ptmalloc >> allocated > Have they filed a bug? > I don't know. You should ask t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Evaluating a new malloc()

2013-02-26 Thread Alexander Berntsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 26/02/13 14:33, Richard Yao wrote: > The Blender project found some fairly remarkable discrepancies > between what their software actually used and what glibc's ptmalloc > allocated Have they filed a bug? - -- Alexander alexan...@plaimi.net http:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Evaluating a new malloc()

2013-02-26 Thread Richard Yao
On 02/26/2013 08:35 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > On 26/02/2013 14:33, Richard Yao wrote: >> Results such as these led Blender and others (e.g. Chrome/Chromium, >> Firefox, Thunderbird) to bundle private versions of jemalloc. This >> bundling situation violates our policy against bundled librarie

Re: [gentoo-dev] Evaluating a new malloc()

2013-02-26 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 26/02/2013 14:33, Richard Yao wrote: > Results such as these led Blender and others (e.g. Chrome/Chromium, > Firefox, Thunderbird) to bundle private versions of jemalloc. This > bundling situation violates our policy against bundled libraries. The > maintainers could just patch their software to

[gentoo-dev] Evaluating a new malloc()

2013-02-26 Thread Richard Yao
The Blender project found some fairly remarkable discrepancies between what their software actually used and what glibc's ptmalloc allocated: http://www.sintel.org/development/memory-jemalloc/ Results such as these led Blender and others (e.g. Chrome/Chromium, Firefox, Thunderbird) to bundle priv