Sorry! WAS: Re: [gentoo-dev] Do not modify ebuilds which are already in the tree... even if masked

2007-06-12 Thread cilly
On Jun 12, 2007, at 2:14 PM, Carsten Lohrke wrote: Could you please stop spamming the list with your one sentence replies! Waiting a day and then sending a single subsuming reply to the most important arguments suffices completely. The mailing list is not a chat channel. Carsten Hi list,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Do not modify ebuilds which are already in the tree... even if masked

2007-06-12 Thread Michael Cummings
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 cilly wrote: > On Jun 12, 2007, at 12:55 PM, Marius Mauch wrote: >> - a mistake in the ebuild prevents installation for 10% of the users, >> but doesn't affect runtime behavior. SHould we bump it just for that >> and "force" the other 90% of the users

Re: [gentoo-dev] Do not modify ebuilds which are already in the tree... even if masked

2007-06-12 Thread cilly
On Jun 12, 2007, at 1:56 PM, Christoph Mende wrote: It seems a bit that you didn't fully understand that case. That package fails to install for 10% but works flawlessly for the other 90%. Those 10% will get the fix even without a version bump, the other 90% don't, but that's ok, they don't ne

Re: [gentoo-dev] Do not modify ebuilds which are already in the tree... even if masked

2007-06-12 Thread cilly
On Jun 12, 2007, at 1:50 PM, Vlastimil Babka wrote: I don't agree for hard-masked packages. Sometimes they are hard-masked because of being under development, and are changed several times until unmasked (think about new KDE versions etc). Revbumping with each change and then finally unmask

Re: [gentoo-dev] Do not modify ebuilds which are already in the tree... even if masked

2007-06-12 Thread Vlastimil Babka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 cilly wrote: > I also recommend to manage hard-masked packages the same way, it > prevents confusion in > bug-reports. I don't agree for hard-masked packages. Sometimes they are hard-masked because of being under development, and are changed several t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Do not modify ebuilds which are already in the tree... even if masked

2007-06-12 Thread cilly
On Jun 12, 2007, at 12:55 PM, Marius Mauch wrote: Hi Marius, Not realistic. Think about it: - upstream location for a package changes, so old SRC_URI stops working. If we don't update the existing ebuild people can't use it anymore, if we bump it to a new revision existing users "have to" perfo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Do not modify ebuilds which are already in the tree... even if masked

2007-06-12 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 12:07:11 +0200 cilly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > I think it is worth to discuss about `Do not modify ebuilds which > are already in the tree... even if masked.` > > Sometimes ebuilds which are already in the portage tree are modified > without changing the > ve

Re: [gentoo-dev] Do not modify ebuilds which are already in the tree... even if masked

2007-06-12 Thread cilly
On Jun 12, 2007, at 12:20 PM, Petteri Räty wrote: http://devmanual.gentoo.org/general-concepts/ebuild-revisions/ index.html This is the current policy. So far it has worked quite well for me at least. Okay, does this include ~ packages? And what about hard masked ones?-- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [gentoo-dev] Do not modify ebuilds which are already in the tree... even if masked

2007-06-12 Thread cilly
On Jun 12, 2007, at 12:21 PM, Luca Barbato wrote: There is already a guideline about it it basically says : "Every changes that just fix an issue for a certain deals of users (e.g. optional dep version bump, different use handling, anything that makes the program not build just in that pa

Re: [gentoo-dev] Do not modify ebuilds which are already in the tree... even if masked

2007-06-12 Thread Petteri Räty
cilly kirjoitti: > Hi all, > > I think it is worth to discuss about `Do not modify ebuilds which are > already in the tree... even if masked.` > > Sometimes ebuilds which are already in the portage tree are modified > without changing the > version-number, i.e. ebuild-r1 is in the portage tree an

Re: [gentoo-dev] Do not modify ebuilds which are already in the tree... even if masked

2007-06-12 Thread Luca Barbato
cilly wrote: > What do you think? There is already a guideline about it it basically says : "Every changes that just fix an issue for a certain deals of users (e.g. optional dep version bump, different use handling, anything that makes the program not build just in that particular case BUT doesn

Re: [gentoo-dev] Do not modify ebuilds which are already in the tree... even if masked

2007-06-12 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 12:07:11PM +0200, cilly wrote: > Hi all, > > I think it is worth to discuss about `Do not modify ebuilds which are > already in the tree... even if masked.` > > Sometimes ebuilds which are already in the portage tree are modified > without changing the version-number,

[gentoo-dev] Do not modify ebuilds which are already in the tree... even if masked

2007-06-12 Thread cilly
Hi all, I think it is worth to discuss about `Do not modify ebuilds which are already in the tree... even if masked.` Sometimes ebuilds which are already in the portage tree are modified without changing the version-number, i.e. ebuild-r1 is in the portage tree and the ebuild- r1 gets chan