On 17 December 2012 18:55, Tomáš Chvátal wrote:
> 2012/12/17 Ben de Groot :
> > Please don't. For most users this is a waste of resources.
> >
> On first look it seems like waste of resources.
> On second hand it makes stuff easy wrt bugreports provided by users.
> And believe me when I say most
El lun, 17-12-2012 a las 08:55 -0500, Rich Freeman escribió:
[...]
> I usually keep a debug file in /etc/portage/env.d and symlink it to
> anything I'm working on.
>
> Rich
>
>
I do the same, for example, I had end.d files for all evince related
packages to get proper backtraces as I was gettin
Il 17/12/2012 11:11, Tomáš Chvátal ha scritto:
Hi lads,
lately I am having bit of problems from getting relevant debug info from users.
Since we already have splitdebug for quite time (and I suppose quite
few of us are using it) how about making it to default profiles
default enabled and add -g
W dniu 18.12.2012 13:03, Sven Eden pisze:
> Am Dienstag, 18. Dezember 2012, 12:43:55 schrieb Marcin Mirosław:
>> W dniu 18.12.2012 12:13, Sven Eden pisze:
>
> (snip, because this has nothing to do with the previous discussion.)
>
On my 32-bit machines I have...
FLAGS="-O2 -march=
Am Dienstag, 18. Dezember 2012, 12:43:55 schrieb Marcin Mirosław:
> W dniu 18.12.2012 12:13, Sven Eden pisze:
(snip, because this has nothing to do with the previous discussion.)
> >> On my 32-bit machines I have...
> >>
> >> FLAGS="-O2 -march=native -mfpmath=sse -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe
> >>
W dniu 18.12.2012 12:13, Sven Eden pisze:
> Am Montag, 17. Dezember 2012, 11:48:12 schrieb Walter Dnes:
>> On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 01:37:27PM +0100, Sven Eden wrote
>>
>>> 1) --- kde-base/kate
>>> -
>>>
>>> Compiled with -ggdb in CFLAGS:
>>> # sum=0; for file in $(equer
Am Montag, 17. Dezember 2012, 11:48:12 schrieb Walter Dnes:
> On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 01:37:27PM +0100, Sven Eden wrote
>
> > 1) --- kde-base/kate
> > -
> >
> > Compiled with -ggdb in CFLAGS:
> > # sum=0; for file in $(equery f kde-base/kate | grep "\.debug") ; do
> >
On 12/17/2012 02:55 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Kacper Kowalik wrote:
>> All trouble can be saved by asking user to recompile package with
>> relevant flags on bug report, resolving the bug as NEEDINFO. Instead of
>> forcing everybody out there using Gentoo to have a
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 01:37:27PM +0100, Sven Eden wrote
> 1) --- kde-base/kate
> -
>
> Compiled with -ggdb in CFLAGS:
>
> # sum=0; for file in $(equery f kde-base/kate | grep "\.debug") ; do
> xSize=$(stat -c "%s" $file) ; sum=$((sum+xSize)) ; done ; echo "$sum"
>
On 12/17/12 2:11 AM, Tomáš Chvátal wrote:
> Since we already have splitdebug for quite time (and I suppose quite
> few of us are using it) how about making it to default profiles
> default enabled and add -g to default cflags. Currently it is only
> enabled in the developer profile.
Fully seconded
On 17/12/2012 15:20, Rich Freeman wrote:
> Uh, sure, insofar as it is possible to stop doing something that
> you've done exactly once... :)
In general, I've heard the same suggestion touted too many times
already. It's this kind of misinformation and cargo culting that often
causes `strip-flags`
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 9:05 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò
wrote:
> So please stop giving this stupid suggestion, which causes enough grief
> as it is without being repeated once again.
Uh, sure, insofar as it is possible to stop doing something that
you've done exactly once... :)
However, I've found
On 17/12/2012 14:55, Rich Freeman wrote:
> Tend to agree. Plus, you can always compile -O0 in such a case and
> get more useful debug info besides (yes, I know this can be misleading
> under some circumstances, but not all packages are glibc).
No. No. No. No. No. . No.
It's not "being gl
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Kacper Kowalik wrote:
> All trouble can be saved by asking user to recompile package with
> relevant flags on bug report, resolving the bug as NEEDINFO. Instead of
> forcing everybody out there using Gentoo to have additional XGb for
> debug, patching troublesome p
On 12/17/2012 11:11 AM, Tomáš Chvátal wrote:
> Hi lads,
> lately I am having bit of problems from getting relevant debug info from
> users.
All trouble can be saved by asking user to recompile package with
relevant flags on bug report, resolving the bug as NEEDINFO. Instead of
forcing everybody o
Am Montag, 17. Dezember 2012, 11:47:24 schrieb Tomáš Chvátal:
> 2012/12/17 Sven Eden :
> > Hello Tomáš,
> >
> > on my system I have set up everything with splitdebug enabled. My CFLAGS
> > use - march=native, -O2 and -ggdb.
> > And this is the result: (Yes, I have a dedictated partition for that.)
On 17 December 2012 10:11, Tomáš Chvátal wrote:
> Hi lads,
> lately I am having bit of problems from getting relevant debug info from
> users.
>
> Since we already have splitdebug for quite time (and I suppose quite
> few of us are using it) how about making it to default profiles
> default enabl
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Tomáš Chvátal wrote:
> I silently hope they copy the default cflags to their make.conf and
> then set march and add more stuff, rather than starting from scratch.
> Also we can pop-up newsitem asking them to put it into cflags ;-)
You might want to get the handbo
On 17/12/2012 12:37, viv...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> In short FEATURES=compressdebug should be stable and default before you
> (gentoo) decide for something like this.
> As mentioned somewhere else in this thread some packages are on the
> unbeareable side when compiled with debug information, those s
Il 17/12/2012 11:42, Diego Elio Pettenò ha scritto:
On 17/12/2012 11:33, Sven Eden wrote:
on my system I have set up everything with splitdebug enabled. My CFLAGS use -
march=native, -O2 and -ggdb.
That's -ggdb that increases the size.
In short FEATURES=compressdebug should be stable and de
On 17/12/2012 11:54, Tomáš Chvátal wrote:
> That ain't problem, we acutally can patch in those packages to strip
> the debug by default and add there useflag to not strip those for
> those really needing it.
No. USE=debug is for _something else_ entirely. And I'm going to kick
hard whoever tries t
2012/12/17 Ben de Groot :
> Please don't. For most users this is a waste of resources.
>
On first look it seems like waste of resources.
On second hand it makes stuff easy wrt bugreports provided by users.
And believe me when I say most upstreams are pissed by gentoo reports
because they lack any g
2012/12/17 Alexandre Rostovtsev :
>
> The bigger problem is not disk space but memory usage at link time. Try
> building something like *-webkit-* or firefox with debugging CFLAGS on a
> machine with limited memory.
>
>
That ain't problem, we acutally can patch in those packages to strip
the debug
2012/12/17 Sven Eden :
> Hello Tomáš,
>
> on my system I have set up everything with splitdebug enabled. My CFLAGS use -
> march=native, -O2 and -ggdb.
> And this is the result: (Yes, I have a dedictated partition for that.)
>
> ~ $ LC_ALL=C df -h /usr/lib/debug/.
> Filesystem Size Used Avai
On Mon, 2012-12-17 at 11:11 +0100, Tomáš Chvátal wrote:
> Hi lads,
> lately I am having bit of problems from getting relevant debug info from
> users.
>
> Since we already have splitdebug for quite time (and I suppose quite
> few of us are using it) how about making it to default profiles
> defau
On 17/12/2012 11:26, Tomáš Chvátal wrote:
> I silently hope they copy the default cflags to their make.conf and
> then set march and add more stuff, rather than starting from scratch.
> Also we can pop-up newsitem asking them to put it into cflags ;-)
>
They don't, they use those coming from cata
On 17/12/2012 11:33, Sven Eden wrote:
> on my system I have set up everything with splitdebug enabled. My CFLAGS use -
> march=native, -O2 and -ggdb.
That's -ggdb that increases the size.
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On 17 December 2012 18:26, Tomáš Chvátal wrote:
> 2012/12/17 Diego Elio Pettenò :
> > On 17/12/2012 11:11, Tomáš Chvátal wrote:
> >> Since we already have splitdebug for quite time (and I suppose quite
> >> few of us are using it) how about making it to default profiles
> >> default enabled and a
Am Montag, 17. Dezember 2012, 11:11:38 schrieb Tomáš Chvátal:
> Hi lads,
> lately I am having bit of problems from getting relevant debug info from
> users.
>
> Since we already have splitdebug for quite time (and I suppose quite
> few of us are using it) how about making it to default profiles
> d
2012/12/17 Diego Elio Pettenò :
> On 17/12/2012 11:11, Tomáš Chvátal wrote:
>> Since we already have splitdebug for quite time (and I suppose quite
>> few of us are using it) how about making it to default profiles
>> default enabled and add -g to default cflags. Currently it is only
>> enabled in
On 17/12/2012 11:11, Tomáš Chvátal wrote:
> Since we already have splitdebug for quite time (and I suppose quite
> few of us are using it) how about making it to default profiles
> default enabled and add -g to default cflags. Currently it is only
> enabled in the developer profile.
Why, somebody
Hi lads,
lately I am having bit of problems from getting relevant debug info from users.
Since we already have splitdebug for quite time (and I suppose quite
few of us are using it) how about making it to default profiles
default enabled and add -g to default cflags. Currently it is only
enabled i
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