[gentoo-dev] Re: Some council topics for March meeting

2007-03-13 Thread Duncan
Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:45:09 +: > Duncan wrote: >> Has anyone stopped to think... he might have an ulterior motive here? >> >> Clearly, it's trolling, the quote above should demonstrate that beyond >> doubt. However,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Some council topics for March meeting

2007-03-13 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 13 March 2007, Dan Meltzer wrote: > On 3/13/07, Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I was trying to show spb that reading personal attacks against oneself in > > this forum is not a nice feeling. It was a stupid, priggish thing to do. > > Ya think? adding sarcastic replies to the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Some council topics for March meeting

2007-03-13 Thread Dan Meltzer
On 3/13/07, Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Duncan wrote: > Has anyone stopped to think... he might have an ulterior motive here? > > Clearly, it's trolling, the quote above should demonstrate that beyond > doubt. However, one must ask what the reason might be for such > deliberate trolls.

[gentoo-dev] Re: Some council topics for March meeting

2007-03-13 Thread Steve Long
Duncan wrote: > Has anyone stopped to think... he might have an ulterior motive here? > > Clearly, it's trolling, the quote above should demonstrate that beyond > doubt. However, one must ask what the reason might be for such > deliberate trolls. > Yes it was, and I apologise unreservedly both to

[gentoo-dev] Re: Some council topics for March meeting

2007-03-12 Thread Duncan
Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:54:49 -0400: > On Monday 12 March 2007, Steve Long wrote: >> Stephen Bennett wrote: >> > Oh, and bashing ciaranm doesn't make you cool. >> >> Yeah and nor does sucking him off. > > seriously, sto

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Some council topics for March meeting

2007-03-12 Thread Jan Kundrát
Steve Long wrote: > Oh no of course not. Paludis is in fact being led in the most appropriate > political fashion, rather than the best technical approach for the job. Dear Steve, this is a formal request from an ordinary Gentoo developer who has already emailed you privately several times asking

[gentoo-dev] Re: Some council topics for March meeting

2007-03-12 Thread Steve Long
Seemant Kulleen wrote: > Grow up. > SKulleen+=10 :P -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Re: Some council topics for March meeting

2007-03-12 Thread Steve Long
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >> Erm, to be precise here, noone has removed any ciaranm's attributions >> from devmanual, they've all been moved to the end of the document >> originally, so that people wouldn't be forced to scroll across one >> page worth of contributors to get to the actual content of de

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Some council topics for March meeting

2007-03-12 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:46:41 + Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Stephen Bennett wrote: > > Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> The EAPI=0 document was supposed to be a QA project. What it is > >> now, I have no idea. > > > > A QA subproject which has not yet released

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Some council topics for March meeting

2007-03-12 Thread Stephen Bennett
On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:46:41 + Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Except it's one that needs Paludis ready before it can be considered > complete. /me thinks are they really that clever? /me remembers > ciaranm's incredibly smart posts from ~2 years ago when he couldn't > stand being trea

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Some council topics for March meeting

2007-03-12 Thread Stephen Bennett
On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:00:09 + Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes so in a /technical/ sense he's the lead. You defer to his greater > knowledge. Or are you more political than technical? Nowhere did I say anything of the sort. Stop jumping to conclusions based on incorrect assumption

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Some council topics for March meeting

2007-03-12 Thread Grant Goodyear
Steve Long wrote: [Mon Mar 12 2007, 12:51:17PM CDT] > Stephen Bennett wrote: > > On Sat, 3 Mar 2007 01:58:30 -0800 (PST) > > "Alec Warner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And if we didn't give a d*mn about such a distinction? IOW if you were > discussing this technically, instead of /politically/ *sho

[gentoo-dev] Re: Some council topics for March meeting

2007-03-12 Thread Steve Long
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > Paludis is not a Gentoo project. There is no disagreement there. This > discussion is about PMS, not Paludis. > Yes dear. > Also note that the traditional "open up discussions and source to > everyone straight away" alternative to eselect ended up being a hideous > XML m

[gentoo-dev] Re: Some council topics for March meeting

2007-03-12 Thread Steve Long
Daniel Robbins wrote: > On 3/4/07, Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> you've managed to launch groundless attacks against >> me, a whole bunch of other Gentoo developers, the Council, the >> Foundation and devrel. > > Well, I think it's a good thing to question whether the Council, the

[gentoo-dev] Re: Some council topics for March meeting

2007-03-12 Thread Steve Long
Stephen Bennett wrote: >> To co-lead a Gentoo project? You need to be a dev to do that. I >> couldn't join any projects even as a member until I became a dev, and >> I created the distro. You are effectively co-leading (likely leading) >> PMS as a non-dev - worse than that, as someone who has been

[gentoo-dev] Re: Some council topics for March meeting

2007-03-12 Thread Steve Long
Stephen Bennett wrote: > On Sat, 3 Mar 2007 01:58:30 -0800 (PST) > "Alec Warner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> So you are saying you cannot see Daniel's point of view at all? That >> Gentoo should perhaps have input on a specification whose goal is to >> essentially define what a Gentoo Package

[gentoo-dev] Re: Some council topics for March meeting

2007-03-12 Thread Steve Long
Stephen Bennett wrote: > Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> The EAPI=0 document was supposed to be a QA project. What it is now, >> I have no idea. > > A QA subproject which has not yet released a public draft. > And it doesn't concern you that after x months, Chris had no idea wha

[gentoo-dev] Re: Some council topics for March meeting

2007-03-12 Thread Steve Long
Stephen Bennett wrote: >> OK, but it appears that PMS is not hosted on Gentoo infrastructure, >> and its development is not controlled by Gentoo. Therefore it is not a >> Gentoo project, and therefore the Council, QA, etc. should not be >> treating it if it is a Gentoo project. > > It's controlled

[gentoo-dev] Re: Some council topics for March meeting

2007-03-05 Thread Steve Long
Chris Gianelloni wrote: > The EAPI=0 document was supposed to be a QA project. What it is now, I > have no idea. While the current PMS project is not what we asked for > and *is* outside the scope of Gentoo That's interesting to note. > , due to our wishing to still *have* > a specification of

[gentoo-dev] Re: Some council topics for March meeting

2007-03-05 Thread Steve Long
Petteri Räty wrote: > I wonder if this thread would have been like this if deadline was called > timetable in the original mail. I asked for access to PMS and got it so > I don't see any problem it being in any way too secret. > Yay! A positive post! -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Some council topics for March meeting

2007-03-03 Thread Luca Barbato
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > You like to think it, but it doesn't make it true. But hey, it's so > much easier to think that I'm the great Gentoo boogeyman, isn't it? We need a scary entity and Vapier isn't scary enough... lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Some council topics for March meeting

2007-03-03 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 03 Mar 2007 08:33:38 -0600 Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > I was kicked for suggesting that a) ppc-macos was breaking the tree, > > staffed by people who don't know what they're doing, a QA nightmare > > and damaging to the project, b) that pathspec was vap

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Some council topics for March meeting

2007-03-03 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ryan Hill wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > >> I was kicked for suggesting that a) ppc-macos was breaking the tree, >> staffed by people who don't know what they're doing, a QA nightmare and >> damaging to the project, b) that pathspec was vapourware

[gentoo-dev] Re: Some council topics for March meeting

2007-03-03 Thread Ryan Hill
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > I was kicked for suggesting that a) ppc-macos was breaking the tree, > staffed by people who don't know what they're doing, a QA nightmare and > damaging to the project, b) that pathspec was vapourware and > conceptually completely broken, c) that the forums were encouragi