Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Masking practics

2006-08-10 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Thu, 2006-08-10 at 14:24 +0200, Paul de Vrieze wrote: > On Tuesday 08 August 2006 22:36, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > > > As an end user and also an administrator, I am very pleased to see > > > this laid out so clearly. I mean, I knew it, but it seems like it > > > needs to be yelled once in a while

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Masking practics

2006-08-10 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Tuesday 08 August 2006 22:36, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > > As an end user and also an administrator, I am very pleased to see > > this laid out so clearly. I mean, I knew it, but it seems like it > > needs to be yelled once in a while... > > hmm, now that I know of these flags, I can take a look at

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Masking practics

2006-08-08 Thread Simon Stelling
Joshua Nichols wrote: While it is columnar, the D is in a dark blue font. If you happen to be using a dark background, there is extremely little contrast. Perhaps it could be a different color that would stick out in both light and dark backgrounds? There is color-mapping support in portage 2.1

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Masking practics

2006-08-08 Thread Joshua Nichols
Patrick McLean wrote: > Enrico Weigelt wrote: > [ebuild R ] sys-fs/cryptsetup-luks-1.0.3-r2 > [ebuild U ] x11-terms/rxvt-unicode-7.9 [7.8-r1] > [ebuild U ] sci-chemistry/gromacs-3.3.1 [3.3] > [ebuild UD] app-foo/bar-1.0.2 [1.1.0] > [ebuild U ] app-text/evince-0.5.5 [0.5.4] > > W

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Masking practics

2006-08-08 Thread FieldySnuts
On Tuesday 08 August 2006 10:41, Patrick McLean wrote: > We generally assume that our users have some intelligence, we don't put > big fat warnings on everything that might break. We give the users all > the information and let them decide if its going to break. Gentoo never > was and never will be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Masking practics

2006-08-08 Thread Patrick McLean
Enrico Weigelt wrote: > So I'll probably have no other chance than writing a frontend > to emerge, parsing its output - hoping the output syntax remains > the same for an sufficiant time :( > [ebuild R ] sys-fs/cryptsetup-luks-1.0.3-r2 [ebuild U ] x11-terms/rxvt-unicode-7.9 [7.8-r1] [ebu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Masking practics

2006-08-07 Thread Curtis Napier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: MD5 Enrico Weigelt wrote: > * Steve Dibb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > > >> [ebuild UD] sys-apps/coreutils-5.2.1-r7 [5.94-r1] USE="-acl -build >> -nls -static" 0 kB >> >> Total size of downloads: 0 kB >> >> See the little "D"? >> >> It's not big,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Masking practics

2006-08-07 Thread Steve Dibb
Enrico Weigelt wrote: * Steve Dibb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: [ebuild UD] sys-apps/coreutils-5.2.1-r7 [5.94-r1] USE="-acl -build -nls -static" 0 kB Total size of downloads: 0 kB See the little "D"? It's not big, it's not fat, but it's warning you. :) Not actually an eye-ca

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Masking practics

2006-08-07 Thread Benno Schulenberg
Enrico Weigelt wrote: > * Steve Dibb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > See the little "D"? > > > > It's not big, it's not fat, but it's warning you. :) > > Not actually an eye-catching. > > To be fair, do *you* actually look through *all* the emerge > output if there's any "D" flag, without the risk

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Masking practics

2006-08-07 Thread Thomas Cort
On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 23:01:45 +0200 Enrico Weigelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Obviously, not everyone wants to be vigilant - but > > if you aren't - then you don't get to whine about it when it breaks. > > well actually I guess you do... > > So, you don't have any intention to help people w

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Masking practics

2006-08-07 Thread Michael Weyershäuser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Enrico Weigelt wrote: > To be fair, do *you* actually look through *all* the emerge > output if there's any "D" flag, without the risk of overlooking > it someday ? Yes. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFE16tG6q4

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Masking practics

2006-08-07 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Steev Klimaszewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > Obviously, not everyone wants to be vigilant - but > if you aren't - then you don't get to whine about it when it breaks. > well actually I guess you do... So, you don't have any intention to help people who don't have such an eagle-eye o

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Masking practics

2006-08-07 Thread Richard Fish
On 8/7/06, Enrico Weigelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: To be fair, do *you* actually look through *all* the emerge output if there's any "D" flag, without the risk of overlooking it someday ? Um, sorry, but users *should* be looking at the output of --pretend to get an idea of what portage wants

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Masking practics

2006-08-07 Thread Steev Klimaszewski
Enrico Weigelt wrote: > Not actually an eye-catching. Ummm, D, as opposed to U... Yeah, that catches my eye. I am weird like that though. > > To be fair, do *you* actually look through *all* the emerge > output if there's any "D" flag, without the risk of overlooking > it someday ? Yes, hone

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Masking practics

2006-08-07 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Steve Dibb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > [ebuild UD] sys-apps/coreutils-5.2.1-r7 [5.94-r1] USE="-acl -build > -nls -static" 0 kB > > Total size of downloads: 0 kB > > See the little "D"? > > It's not big, it's not fat, but it's warning you. :) Not actually an eye-catching. To be fai

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Masking practics

2006-08-07 Thread Steve Dibb
Enrico Weigelt wrote: Why can't emerge just print out an fat warning if its going to downgrade ? Would save people from much, much trouble. # emerge -pv =coreutils-5.2.1-r7 These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild UD] sys-apps/core

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Masking practics

2006-08-07 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > # WARNING: installed package foo-1.1 has been masked and would # be > > downgraded: > > # > > [...] > > That's precisely what emerge --pretend --verbose covers. Or, if you want > the display with a question to continue or not, use --ask instead of > -

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Masking practics

2006-08-07 Thread Joshua Nichols
Duncan wrote: > That's precisely what emerge --pretend --verbose covers. Or, if you want > the display with a question to continue or not, use --ask instead of > --verbose. > I'm pretty sure you mean to use --ask instead of --pretend, not --verbose. -- Joshua Nichols Gentoo/Java - Project Lea

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Masking practics

2006-08-07 Thread Duncan
Enrico Weigelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Mon, 07 Aug 2006 15:01:57 +0200: > My problem still seems unsolved (or did I miss something) ? You missed something. > Lets say, if I've, installed foo-1.1, and it gets masked due some bug(s), > but 1.0 isn't, I wa