[gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-06 Thread Ryan Hill
Anant Narayanan wrote: P.P.S. Maybe this is more suited for -project, but everyone knows that nobody reads that list :-p Only because nobody posts there. Knock it off. ;P -- fonts,by design, by neglect gcc-porting, for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-06 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
Markus Ullmann wrote: we had that in the past already yet it didn't solve one problem at hand: users getting distacted and devs getting nervous b/c the process is a) undocumented and b) a bit complex as you have to keep $repo and gentoo-x86 in sync So giving both (devs and users) an automated wa

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-06 Thread Petteri Räty
Markus Ullmann kirjoitti: So giving both (devs and users) an automated way of working with that would help a lot IMHO. like the user submits using echangelog "My cool change" repoman submit then the dev gets a diff or whatever against current state and then just does repoman accept or rep

[gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-06 Thread Markus Ullmann
Zhang Le schrieb: IMO giving proxy-maintainer due credit and publicity, meaning make it a formal position, could solve the very problem Anant's proposal intended to solve. we had that in the past already yet it didn't solve one problem at hand: users getting distacted and devs getting nervous b

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-03 Thread George Shapovalov
Sunday, 2. March 2008, Richard Freeman Ви написали: > George Shapovalov wrote: > > The good thing about this approach is that it only requires an initial > > investment of organizing and automating things but does not add any > > regular work to the devs. In fact, if the "tested" category becomes >

[gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-02 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi, "Santiago M. Mola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 7:45 PM, Christian Faulhammer > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > What we propose is proper testing and keywording by anyone > > around...not just team members. > > Writing test plans like emacs team does really helps too. I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-02 Thread Jan Kundrát
Richard Freeman wrote: We might also aim to make it easy for users to mix-and-match levels of stability by package. I know it is possible already, but perhaps it could be improved, or pre-canned lists of packages that users might typically want bleeding-edge vs stable could be compiled. Tusnam

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-02 Thread Richard Freeman
George Shapovalov wrote: > The good thing about this approach is that it only requires an initial > investment of organizing and automating things but does not add any regular > work to the devs. In fact, if the "tested" category becomes popular enough, > it can cut the work for stable testers,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-02 Thread Santiago M. Mola
On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 7:45 PM, Christian Faulhammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What we propose is proper testing and keywording by anyone > around...not just team members. > Writing test plans like emacs team does really helps too. I waste too much time figuring out how to test properly so

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-02 Thread George Shapovalov
Sunday, 2. March 2008, Steve Dibb Ви написали: > Christian Faulhammer wrote: > > What we propose is proper testing and keywording by anyone > > around...not just team members. > > I agree... our main problem is manpower -- people actually working on > the stable bugs. I've tried to do it myself a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-01 Thread Steve Dibb
Christian Faulhammer wrote: What we propose is proper testing and keywording by anyone around...not just team members. I agree... our main problem is manpower -- people actually working on the stable bugs. I've tried to do it myself a few times, but each time it just burns me out to the po

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-01 Thread Richard Freeman
Christian Faulhammer wrote: > > What we propose is proper testing and keywording by anyone > around...not just team members. > Thanks for the info - inactive maintainers are obviously a problem. Maybe the proper approach is for a more "Free-for-all" system like you suggest, with arch teams focu

[gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-01 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi, Richard Freeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Hope you're not referring to any of my arches because that's not > > true :) In fact, if i did that, i wouldn't crash the alpha dev box > > so often, right Tobias? > I dunno - I just hit bug 211021 today while trying to clean out old > bugs. Already st

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-01 Thread Raúl Porcel
Christian Faulhammer wrote: [snip] I agree 100%, thanks for explaining it better than me :P -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-01 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi, Richard Freeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Raúl Porcel wrote: > > > > So it would be cool if they accepted help from other devs who don't > > have an amd64 system but have access to one and can test stuff. Cla > > is willing to help. [...] > I don't keyword a package stable unless I've done at l