[gentoo-dev] Re: How not to discuss

2009-06-04 Thread Steven J Long
Duncan wrote: > Steven J Long posted: > >> Personally I favour restricting the EAPI='blah' line (which imo should >> simply be single-quoted to avoid escaping issues, but whatever: it's >> easy enough to lex in C, so I fail to see the issue lexing it anywhere >> else) to before the inherit line _i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: How not to discuss

2009-06-03 Thread Richard Freeman
Marijn Schouten (hkBst) wrote: Richard Freeman wrote: Without actually intending to open a new debate on that issue , I'm actually a fan of NOT obtaining PN and PV from the filename. I've seen an approach like this used in various systems and I happen to like it: In which systems did you see

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: How not to discuss

2009-06-03 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Richard Freeman wrote: > Steven J Long wrote: >> Getting into a nonsensical debate about PN being metadata seems to be >> the level of the argument, so forgive me for not being very impressed. >> (It's externally derived and in fact the whole point of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: How not to discuss

2009-06-02 Thread Richard Freeman
Steven J Long wrote: Getting into a nonsensical debate about PN being metadata seems to be the level of the argument, so forgive me for not being very impressed. (It's externally derived and in fact the whole point of the product; unless someone is proposing losing PN and PV from filename, can we

[gentoo-dev] Re: How not to discuss

2009-06-02 Thread Duncan
Steven J Long posted 1565621.wyyjxms...@news.friendly-coders.info, excerpted below, on Tue, 02 Jun 2009 09:20:34 +0100: > Personally I favour restricting the EAPI='blah' line (which imo should > simply be single-quoted to avoid escaping issues, but whatever: it's > easy enough to lex in C, so I

[gentoo-dev] Re: How not to discuss

2009-06-02 Thread Steven J Long
Duncan wrote: > Thilo Bangert posted > 200905311126.00274.bang...@gentoo.org, excerpted below, on Sun, 31 May > 2009 11:25:56 +0200: > >> the thing is though, nothing constructive is being said. people are >> going in circles. ciaran and co are pushing glep55 for reasons which >> they have stat

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: How not to discuss

2009-05-31 Thread Richard Freeman
Duncan wrote: A team can have the best rhetoric in the world, but if they don't actually show up and field a team on game day, they lose by default. Fortunately or unfortunately, that looks to be where this is headed. Agreed, there is definitely something to be said for offering solutions.

[gentoo-dev] Re: How not to discuss

2009-05-31 Thread Duncan
Thilo Bangert posted 200905311126.00274.bang...@gentoo.org, excerpted below, on Sun, 31 May 2009 11:25:56 +0200: > the thing is though, nothing constructive is being said. people are > going in circles. ciaran and co are pushing glep55 for reasons which > they have stated gazillion of times and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: How not to discuss

2009-05-31 Thread Thilo Bangert
Richard Freeman said: > Ryan Hill wrote: > > I'm tired of playing, as I'm sure you are. So please, > > let's be quiet now, and let the big people talk. > > This is a public list designed to facilitate discussion of gentoo > software development. Anybody with something constructive to say is > mo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: How not to discuss

2009-05-30 Thread Richard Freeman
Ryan Hill wrote: I'm tired of playing, as I'm sure you are. So please, let's be quiet now, and let the big people talk. This is a public list designed to facilitate discussion of gentoo software development. Anybody with something constructive to say is more than welcome to speak up - part

[gentoo-dev] Re: How not to discuss

2009-05-30 Thread Ryan Hill
On Fri, 29 May 2009 23:49:26 +0200 Patrick Lauer wrote: > On Friday 29 May 2009 04:12:04 Ryan Hill wrote: > > Patrick Lauer wrote: > > but ever consider that the reason people keep > > repeating things to you is that you continually misunderstand what they're > > saying? > I'd say it is more

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: How not to discuss

2009-05-29 Thread Patrick Lauer
On Friday 29 May 2009 04:12:04 Ryan Hill wrote: > On Thu, 28 May 2009 08:28:12 +0200 > > Patrick Lauer wrote: > > This is becoming a rather lengthy email ping pong, but as people seem to > > be unable to discuss things I had to highlight a few issues there. > > I'm sorry to be rude, Don't be, most

[gentoo-dev] Re: How not to discuss

2009-05-28 Thread Duncan
Ciaran McCreesh posted 20090528191457.21ab4...@snowcone, excerpted below, on Thu, 28 May 2009 19:14:57 +0100: > No, it's entirely objective. GLEP 55 clearly shows how the filename > based options are objectively better than anything else. Now that's just being facetious. -- Duncan - List repl

[gentoo-dev] Re: How not to discuss

2009-05-28 Thread Ryan Hill
On Thu, 28 May 2009 08:28:12 +0200 Patrick Lauer wrote: > This is becoming a rather lengthy email ping pong, but as people seem to be > unable to discuss things I had to highlight a few issues there. I'm sorry to be rude, but ever consider that the reason people keep repeating things to you is