[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Features and documentation

2007-11-30 Thread Duncan
"Santiago M. Mola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:29:31 +0100: > I don't know what kind of changes meant Donnie (I hope he clarify that) > but a couple of examples came to my mind when I read his proposal: bugs > #182253 and #181897. Good ex

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Features and documentation

2007-11-30 Thread Duncan
Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Fri, 30 Nov 2007 10:42:03 +: > Duncan wrote: >> It's kinda hard to discuss such a proposal without knowing where it is >> going to be applied > I took it to mean anything which changes something already documented

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Features and documentation

2007-11-30 Thread Steve Long
Duncan wrote: > "Marijn Schouten (hkBst)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted > [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Wed, 28 Nov 2007 > 12:40:58 +0100: > >> Donnie Berkholz wrote: >>> How the recent changes happened to allow USE flag descriptions in >>> metadata.xml (which I'm not taking any position on

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Features and documentation

2007-11-29 Thread Santiago M. Mola
On Nov 29, 2007 7:06 PM, Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Something must have motivated you to present this now. What was it, or > to put it a different way, how would have things been different in your > view had this policy been in effect? Point to other examples as well if > you believe t

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Features and documentation

2007-11-29 Thread Duncan
Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Wed, 28 Nov 2007 21:38:54 -0800: > In fact, I believe exactly the opposite. What we want to create are > basic philosophies to guide us. Nailing down a million tiny details is > what makes things not fun, and what m

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Features and documentation

2007-11-29 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > The Linux kernel seems to still have contributors, despite its > requirement. You have been quoted on LWN: "'The Linux kernel requires that any needed documentation accompany all changes requiring said documentation -- part of the source-code patch must ap

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Features and documentation

2007-11-28 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 05:04 Thu 29 Nov , Duncan wrote: > Leave it to ciarnm to be so direct, amusing tho it is, but that pretty > much nails it. I've seen it said by some that Gentoo's no longer "fun". > I disagree but honestly, ask yourself if there's a better way to ruin the > fun remaining than by institu

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Features and documentation

2007-11-28 Thread Duncan
Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Wed, 28 Nov 2007 21:33:19 +: > On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 13:14:05 -0800 > Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Many of the replies keep asking for details -- details that don't >> exist. Apply the concept abs

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Features and documentation

2007-11-28 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 21:33 Wed 28 Nov , Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 13:14:05 -0800 > > What remains unclear about this principle? > > It's entirely nebulous and has nothing that can be discussed or agreed > upon, beyond giving people a feel good "ooh, yes, we should do this" > with no practical

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Features and documentation

2007-11-28 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 13:14:05 -0800 Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Many of the replies keep asking for details -- details that don't > exist. Apply the concept abstractly: things that need to be > documented must have documentation available in the appropriate form > at the time they'r

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Features and documentation

2007-11-28 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 12:38 Wed 28 Nov , Duncan wrote: > Donnie, I'm sure you have the scope of what you intend to apply this to > firmly in your mind, but it's not at all clear from your post what it > is. Ebuilds? Doesn't make sense with changelog already there and > generally used (when folks don't forget

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Features and documentation

2007-11-28 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > To sum up: No undocumented changes. > Discuss. Would be nice...what we need is a maniac taking care of the devmanual and merging it with all other development related information shattered around (and nag people for more information). But as we aren't able

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Features and documentation

2007-11-28 Thread Duncan
"Marijn Schouten (hkBst)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Wed, 28 Nov 2007 12:40:58 +0100: > Donnie Berkholz wrote: >> How the recent changes happened to allow USE flag descriptions in >> metadata.xml (which I'm not taking any position on now) gave me an >> idea.