Steev Klimaszewski wrote:
So this other list would allow non-civil discussions to continue and
rage on? I mean, you wouldn't have to be civil to others on it, you
could just join and start trolling everyone?
Read the bug I filed with infra. You'll find the answer to this there.
--Kumba
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Steev Klimaszewski wrote:
> Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh wrote:
> > Stephen Bennett wrote:
> >> On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 23:10:32 +0200
> >> Benjamin Judas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> ...which means that he has a documented history of trolling not only
> >>> on mailinglists but also in ir
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Benjamin Judas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Am Dienstag, den 12.06.2007, 20:46 +0100 schrieb Stephen Bennett:
> > On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 21:00:55 +0200
> > Wernfried Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, Ju
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Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh wrote:
> Stephen Bennett wrote:
>> On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 23:10:32 +0200
>> Benjamin Judas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> ...which means that he has a documented history of trolling not only
>>> on mailinglists but also
Stephen Bennett wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 23:10:32 +0200
> Benjamin Judas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>> ...which means that he has a documented history of trolling not only
>> on mailinglists but also in irc-channels; not only against developers
>> but also against volunteering users.
>>
Benjamin Judas wrote:
> Am Dienstag, den 12.06.2007, 22:44 +0100 schrieb Stephen Bennett:
>
>> On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 23:10:32 +0200
>> Benjamin Judas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> ...which means that he has a documented history of trolling not only
>>> on mailinglists but also in irc-c
Am Dienstag, den 12.06.2007, 22:44 +0100 schrieb Stephen Bennett:
> On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 23:10:32 +0200
> Benjamin Judas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > ...which means that he has a documented history of trolling not only
> > on mailinglists but also in irc-channels; not only against developers
>
On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 23:10:32 +0200
Benjamin Judas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ...which means that he has a documented history of trolling not only
> on mailinglists but also in irc-channels; not only against developers
> but also against volunteering users.
So do most people on this list.
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Am Dienstag, den 12.06.2007, 20:46 +0100 schrieb Stephen Bennett:
> On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 21:00:55 +0200
> Wernfried Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 02:35:42PM +0200, Alexander Gabert wrote:
> > > You left the project and it's your choice to continue working with
> > >
On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 21:00:55 +0200
Wernfried Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 02:35:42PM +0200, Alexander Gabert wrote:
> > You left the project and it's your choice to continue working with
> > it and on it.
>
> Nonono, you got it all wrong.
> He didn't leave, he was fi
On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 02:35:42PM +0200, Alexander Gabert wrote:
> You left the project and it's your choice to continue working with it and on
> it.
Nonono, you got it all wrong.
He didn't leave, he was fired [1].
cheers,
Wernfried
[1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114944
Duncan wrote:
Kumba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted
below, on Mon, 11 Jun 2007 21:25:14 -0400:
It's competition, at the core. No one likes draws, ties, or even photo
finishes, let alone losing. They like to win, and win by a large
margin. If someone tries to slip the
Matthias Langer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted
[EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Mon, 11 Jun
2007 22:10:52 +0200:
> On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 19:01 +0200, Alexander Gabert wrote:
[snipped]
> if you came to the conclusion, that ciaranm is some kind of ultra-nasty
> troll, then why is it so hard for
Kumba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted
below, on Mon, 11 Jun 2007 21:25:14 -0400:
> It's competition, at the core. No one likes draws, ties, or even photo
> finishes, let alone losing. They like to win, and win by a large
> margin. If someone tries to slip the last word
Brian Harring wrote:
Guess I'll be the killjoy, and throw in the -1 on it.
Reasons are pretty straightforward (at least to me):
1) Creating such channels is just attempting to shift the problem out
of sight.
Not out of sight, just to an arena where it is more suitable. When I joined
Gento
On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 01:42:40PM -0700, Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh wrote:
> That statement presumes that gentoo-politics will not be read.
> I don't think this is (or should be) true.
It's also based on the fact that people still read all the crap on
gentoo-dev.
Newsflash: They don't.
cheers,
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:27:44 -0600
> Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> PS. this thread is a good example of something that would belong on
>> gentoo-project. ;)
>>
>
> And this is why it's a bad idea: it's moving criticism away from where
> people will actua
On 6/12/07, Alexander Gabert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
There are others like him and there will be others after him. There
were even people doing that before him.
As with trolls, theres more where they came for, but that doesn't make
gentoo-ML 'different' to as to how we slay a troll.
I agr
On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 19:01 +0200, Alexander Gabert wrote:
> The person has personally attacked me after i simply concluded that he
> should maybe change his attitude to make a better impression on
> gentoo-dev and Gentoo developers. This guy is trolling for years and he
> enjoys and knows it a
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:27:44 -0600
Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
PS. this thread is a good example of something that would belong on
gentoo-project. ;)
And this is why it's a bad idea: it's moving criticism away from where
people will actually read it.
And that's
On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 19:01:15 +0200
Alexander Gabert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What a stupid prick. All he had to do is aggravate. And he still
> does.
For someone who claims to want to improve the quality of discussion on
gentoo-dev list, you're certainly going out of your way to drag it
down
Kent Fredric schrieb:
...
So you are saying that the person is not the problem but the problem is
the problem.
The person has personally attacked me after i simply concluded that he
should maybe change his attitude to make a better impression on
gentoo-dev and Gentoo developers. This guy i
On 6/12/07, Alexander Gabert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
A Philosophy I picked up in a Politics chat room, was discuss problems
& issues, not people. People in said room were repremanded for
discussing others either directly or indirectly whether or not said
persons were present ( this did exc
lol owned :)
Alex
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On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 14:35:42 +0200
Alexander Gabert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> However, you cannot expect me as a developer to listen to your
> continued rants and the problems you are creating.
I am not creating problems. I am pointing them out, in the hopes that
people will work to find soluti
CAUTION:
You are wasting your time reading this.
You are currently wasting my time because i had to write this.
You are also wasting the time of every other developer or ML reader who
is reading this.
You may start wasting even more time of you, me and others putting more
oil into this fire.
On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 13:30:13 +0200
Alexander Gabert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > And this is why it's a bad idea: it's moving criticism away from
> > where people will actually read it.
> >
> IMHO it is moving criticism away from where people will actually NOT
> read it.
> Get a life and stop
Ciaran McCreesh schrieb:
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:27:44 -0600
Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
PS. this thread is a good example of something that would belong on
gentoo-project. ;)
And this is why it's a bad idea: it's moving criticism away from where
people will actually read it.
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:27:44 -0600
Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> PS. this thread is a good example of something that would belong on
> gentoo-project. ;)
And this is why it's a bad idea: it's moving criticism away from where
people will actually read it.
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On 6/11/07, Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 3) said increase means proctors/devrel have more work (meaning more
> random outbursts at the proctors/devrel when folks realize that they
> *are* going to enforce the behaviour rules, and that the outburstes
> can be punished too).
It should pr
Brian Harring wrote:
> Guess I'll be the killjoy, and throw in the -1 on it.
>
> Reasons are pretty straightforward (at least to me):
I originally agreed with you, but after giving it some thought I think
it might help.
> 1) Creating such channels is just attempting to shift the problem out
>
On Sun, Jun 10, 2007 at 02:31:02PM -0600, Ryan Hill wrote:
> Kumba wrote:
>
> > Anyways, thoughts?
>
> Yes please.
Guess I'll be the killjoy, and throw in the -1 on it.
Reasons are pretty straightforward (at least to me):
1) Creating such channels is just attempting to shift the problem out
o
Kumba wrote:
> Anyways, thoughts?
Yes please.
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Duncan wrote:
> Does mail/lists have anything like the followup-to header of news?
> That'd be perfect for the "belongs in -project" posts, xpost the reminder
> (with the quote, so the background is there for those /only/ on project/
> politics) to both, with followup-to set to -project. Of course
Roman Zimmermann wrote:
> Kumba wrote:
>> >> what should we call it? Vote on this!
>> > If users have votes ...
> Then I'd vote for gentoo-project.
>
> It seems to me that politics covers just a part of all possible
> non-technical topics. Depends on how you define politics though.
>
++ `politic
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Because the trolls will continue to post here for the widest possible
readership, it doesn't matter much what we call it...
Add another vote for -project anyway :)
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Kumba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted
below, on Thu, 07 Jun 2007 23:20:30 -0400:
> gentoo-project
I too like the idea, and that name gets my vote.
Does mail/lists have anything like the followup-to header of news?
That'd be perfect for the "belongs in -project" posts,
Doug Goldstein wrote:
> Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
>> Steev Klimaszewski wrote:
>>> No can do - temporarily banning is a bad thing, its censorship, and we
>>> can't have that, no sir.
>>>
>> It's censorship when it's being done one-sidedly in order to skew an
>> argument based upon the prejudices
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