On Sunday 25 October 2009 03:41:10 Jesús Guerrero wrote:
> I fail to see how this is simpler and/or more versatile than simply using
> USE="kde gnome", USE="-kde gnome", USE="-gnome kde" or USE="-gnome -kde".
> What exactly are we going to gain by adding yet another level of complexity
> where two
On Tuesday 27 October 2009 01:34:55 Dawid Węgliński wrote:
> On Tuesday 27 October 2009 00:26:38 Zeerak Waseem wrote:
> > But instead of just giving the user the answer, wouldn't it be more
> > appropriate, as far as understanding useflags and their uses goes, to
> > give users lists of useflags an
On Tuesday 27 October 2009 00:26:38 Zeerak Waseem wrote:
> But instead of just giving the user the answer, wouldn't it be more
> appropriate, as far as understanding useflags and their uses goes, to give
> users lists of useflags and what they do. Ie a list of base use flags for
> say, kde, and als
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:52:04 +0200, Alex Alexander
wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 21:42, Zeerak Waseem wrote:
>> having to choose a profile, gives less time for the wavering user
>
> Why all the fuss? No-one said we're removing the plain "desktop"
> profile, we're simply adding *more* options.
But instead of just giving the user the answer, wouldn't it be more
appropriate, as far as understanding useflags and their uses goes, to give
users lists of useflags and what they do. Ie a list of base use flags for
say, kde, and also what basic useflags to disable, and a suggestion to
rea
On Monday 26 October 2009 21:06:04 Rémi Cardona wrote:
> Le 24/10/2009 15:42, Maciej Mrozowski a écrit :
> > If you have any comments, suggestions, important notices regarding this
> > change, please keep discussion in gentoo-desktop mailing list.
>
> IMHO, we shouldn't even have desktop/server su
Maciej Mrozowski writes:
> And I fail to see *any* point in forcing users to learn Gentoo internals
> (sic!
> like USE flags). What else? Ebuild syntax so that they're able to get to know
> what particular global USE flag is responsible for, when someone forgot (or
> decided not to) describe i
On Monday 26 of October 2009 21:06:04 Rémi Cardona wrote:
> IMHO, we shouldn't even have desktop/server subprofiles to begin with.
> I've always considered Gentoo to be an "opt-in" distro where after a
> successful install, you end up with a bash prompt and a _means_ of
> installing new packages.
Alex Alexander wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 21:42, Zeerak Waseem wrote:
>
>> having to choose a profile, gives less time for the wavering user
>>
>
> Why all the fuss? No-one said we're removing the plain "desktop"
> profile, we're simply adding *more* options.
>
> If you want generic
Le 24/10/2009 15:42, Maciej Mrozowski a écrit :
If you have any comments, suggestions, important notices regarding this
change, please keep discussion in gentoo-desktop mailing list.
IMHO, we shouldn't even have desktop/server subprofiles to begin with.
I've always considered Gentoo to be an "
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 21:42, Zeerak Waseem wrote:
> having to choose a profile, gives less time for the wavering user
Why all the fuss? No-one said we're removing the plain "desktop"
profile, we're simply adding *more* options.
If you want generic DE options pre-enabled, choose the desktop pro
Having recently installed gentoo, I can see hwo it could get confusing
with DE specific profiles. Especially as a number of users that are new to
linux might very well have no idea what DE they're going to use. And the
same can be said for users who decided to run ubuntu "to try linux" and
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:11:38 +0200
Samuli Suominen wrote:
> AllenJB wrote:
> > * Why is the developer profile even shown on "eselect profile"? Wouldn't
> > it be better to keep "unsupported" profiles off this list. Surely Gentoo
> > devs can cope with setting their profile manually in favor of a
On Saturday 24 October 2009, Maciej Mrozowski wrote:
> Resulting from discussion during last Gentoo KDE team meeting taking
> place 22 Oct 2009 at #gentoo-meetings (summary fill be available
> soon), having Gentoo GNOME team representative, it's been decided to
> go ahead with splitting desktop pro
Samuli Suominen wrote:
> AllenJB wrote:
>> * Why is the developer profile even shown on "eselect profile"? Wouldn't
>> it be better to keep "unsupported" profiles off this list. Surely Gentoo
>> devs can cope with setting their profile manually in favor of a little
>> sanity preservation for the re
AllenJB wrote:
> * Why is the developer profile even shown on "eselect profile"? Wouldn't
> it be better to keep "unsupported" profiles off this list. Surely Gentoo
> devs can cope with setting their profile manually in favor of a little
> sanity preservation for the rest of us?
It's not only for
Maciej Mrozowski wrote:
> Hi there!
>
> Resulting from discussion during last Gentoo KDE team meeting taking place 22
> Oct 2009 at #gentoo-meetings (summary fill be available soon), having Gentoo
> GNOME team representative, it's been decided to go ahead with splitting
> desktop profile to DE-
On Sat, 24 Oct 2009 09:00:03 -0500
Jeremy Olexa wrote:
> Just so it is clear and there aren't any questions in the future. The
> XFCE team maintains a set of recommended global use flags in our
> docs[1] (maintained by Josh (nightmorph)). So, whatever direction
> this ends up, xfce will not be g
On Sat, 24 Oct 2009 15:42:17 +0200, Maciej Mrozowski
wrote:
> Hi there!
>
> Resulting from discussion during last Gentoo KDE team meeting taking
place
> 22
> Oct 2009 at #gentoo-meetings (summary fill be available soon), having
> Gentoo
> GNOME team representative, it's been decided to go ahead
Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
> 2009/10/24 Maciej Mrozowski :
>> If you have any comments, suggestions, important notices regarding this
>> change, please keep discussion in gentoo-desktop mailing list.
>>
>
> What about people who like to install both gnome and kde on their
> systems? (Perhaps differen
On Saturday 24 of October 2009 16:00:03 Jeremy Olexa wrote:
> Just so it is clear and there aren't any questions in the future. The
> XFCE team maintains a set of recommended global use flags in our docs[1]
> (maintained by Josh (nightmorph)). So, whatever direction this ends up,
> xfce will not b
Maciej Mrozowski wrote:
Hi there!
Resulting from discussion during last Gentoo KDE team meeting taking place 22
Oct 2009 at #gentoo-meetings (summary fill be available soon), having Gentoo
GNOME team representative, it's been decided to go ahead with splitting
desktop profile to DE-specific s
2009/10/24 Maciej Mrozowski :
> If you have any comments, suggestions, important notices regarding this
> change, please keep discussion in gentoo-desktop mailing list.
>
What about people who like to install both gnome and kde on their
systems? (Perhaps different users on the computer use differe
Hi there!
Resulting from discussion during last Gentoo KDE team meeting taking place 22
Oct 2009 at #gentoo-meetings (summary fill be available soon), having Gentoo
GNOME team representative, it's been decided to go ahead with splitting
desktop profile to DE-specific subprofiles, to avoid bloat
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