Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Changes to EAPI ban workflow

2021-07-12 Thread Joonas Niilola
On 11.7.2021 23.54, Michał Górny wrote: > Hi, everyone. > > > > The point of contention was a proposed change to the EAPI depreciation > workflow. The current workflow consists of roughly three steps: > > 1. The Council decides to deprecate an EAPI. It is added to eapis- > deprecated in layou

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Changes to EAPI ban workflow

2021-07-12 Thread Aaron Bauman
On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 04:59:06PM +0200, Michał Górny wrote: > On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 09:33 -0400, Aaron Bauman wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 11:38:18AM +0100, Marek Szuba wrote: > > > On 2021-07-11 21:54, Michał Górny wrote: > > > > > > > My gut feeling is that having this distinction is use

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Changes to EAPI ban workflow

2021-07-12 Thread Michał Górny
On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 09:33 -0400, Aaron Bauman wrote: > On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 11:38:18AM +0100, Marek Szuba wrote: > > On 2021-07-11 21:54, Michał Górny wrote: > > > > > My gut feeling is that having this distinction is useful. However, it > > > has been pointed out that we've probably never r

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Changes to EAPI ban workflow

2021-07-12 Thread Aaron Bauman
On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 04:21:02PM +0200, Thomas Deutschmann wrote: > Hi, > > it's not clear to me what will be the consequences of this change. > > I am expecting good faith and that nobody will add an ebuild with deprecated > EAPI just for fun or because maintainer prefers retro stuff. > > So

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Changes to EAPI ban workflow

2021-07-12 Thread Thomas Deutschmann
Hi, it's not clear to me what will be the consequences of this change. I am expecting good faith and that nobody will add an ebuild with deprecated EAPI just for fun or because maintainer prefers retro stuff. So looking at the reasons to bump without touching EAPI: a) Because of a changing d

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Changes to EAPI ban workflow

2021-07-12 Thread Aaron Bauman
On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 11:38:18AM +0100, Marek Szuba wrote: > On 2021-07-11 21:54, Michał Górny wrote: > > > My gut feeling is that having this distinction is useful. However, it > > has been pointed out that we've probably never really had to use it > > (i.e. use the "banned" argument to stop s

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Changes to EAPI ban workflow

2021-07-12 Thread Marek Szuba
On 2021-07-11 21:54, Michał Górny wrote: My gut feeling is that having this distinction is useful. However, it has been pointed out that we've probably never really had to use it (i.e. use the "banned" argument to stop someone from using old EAPI) and that the switch from "deprecated" to "banne

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Changes to EAPI ban workflow

2021-07-11 Thread Aaron Bauman
On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 10:54:45PM +0200, Michał Górny wrote: > Hi, everyone. > > The Council has eventually decided that the proposed agenda item > changing the EAPI workflow has not received sufficient public > discussion, so I'd like to restart it. > > > 3. When all ebuilds are removed, the E

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Changes to EAPI ban workflow

2021-07-11 Thread Francesco Riosa
Il giorno dom 11 lug 2021 alle ore 22:55 Michał Górny ha scritto: [snip] > > This decision will also affect another posted agenda item, namely > banning EAPI 5. Switching to the new workflow will eliminate that step, > and therefore EAPI 5 won't be "banned" until all EAPI 5 ebuilds are > removed

[gentoo-dev] [RFC] Changes to EAPI ban workflow

2021-07-11 Thread Michał Górny
Hi, everyone. The Council has eventually decided that the proposed agenda item changing the EAPI workflow has not received sufficient public discussion, so I'd like to restart it. The point of contention was a proposed change to the EAPI depreciation workflow. The current workflow consists of r