Re: OT: gentoo-kindergarten (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML)

2007-06-13 Thread Kent Fredric
On 6/13/07, Thilo Bangert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I want a gentoo-kindergarten list, where useless discussions like this (sub)thread can be directed to. kids, grow up! *cries in his corner* Yes mummy :] -- Kent ruby -e '[1, 2, 4, 7, 0, 9, 5, 8, 3, 10, 11, 6, 12, 13].each{|x| print "enNO

OT: gentoo-kindergarten (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML)

2007-06-13 Thread Thilo Bangert
I want a gentoo-kindergarten list, where useless discussions like this (sub)thread can be directed to. kids, grow up! pgpJFDJFTgIVf.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-09 Thread George Prowse
Mike Doty wrote: George Prowse wrote: Kumba wrote: Kumba wrote: So I'm told debian has one of these types of MLs, probably where the flames burn bright enough to have earned a star designation from the IAU. Given what's been going on lately, and with calls from myself and others (i.e., mcummi

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-08 Thread Kumba
Mike Doty wrote: George Prowse wrote: Kumba wrote: Kumba wrote: So I'm told debian has one of these types of MLs, probably where the flames burn bright enough to have earned a star designation from the IAU. Given what's been going on lately, and with calls from myself and others (i.e., mcummi

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-08 Thread Mike Doty
George Prowse wrote: > Kumba wrote: >> Kumba wrote: >>> >>> So I'm told debian has one of these types of MLs, probably where the >>> flames burn bright enough to have earned a star designation from the >>> IAU. Given what's been going on lately, and with calls from myself >>> and others (i.e., mcu

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-08 Thread George Prowse
Kumba wrote: Kumba wrote: So I'm told debian has one of these types of MLs, probably where the flames burn bright enough to have earned a star designation from the IAU. Given what's been going on lately, and with calls from myself and others (i.e., mcummings) to get back on track and actual

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-08 Thread Kumba
Kumba wrote: So I'm told debian has one of these types of MLs, probably where the flames burn bright enough to have earned a star designation from the IAU. Given what's been going on lately, and with calls from myself and others (i.e., mcummings) to get back on track and actually like, you

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-08 Thread Luis Francisco Araujo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kumba wrote: > Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh wrote: >> We might need some sort of enforcement for that particular purpose. >> While I think that "behavior" proctors are inappropriate, I think that >> people with ability to say "move this thread to gentoo-p

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-08 Thread Luca Barbato
Kumba wrote: > gentoo-politics > gentoo-circuits > gentoo-soap > gentoo-project > gentoo-gossip gentoo-drama - theatrical events every day, no feeling were hurt while filming the show* gentoo-chats - mindless discussions about non issues gentoo-rhetorics - exercise your language skills gentoo-p

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-07 Thread Roman Zimmermann
Kumba wrote: > >> what should we call it?  Vote on this! > > > > If users have votes ... Then I'd vote for gentoo-project. It seems to me that politics covers just a part of all possible non-technical topics. Depends on how you define politics though. Roman pgpUqVXAIRKN3.pgp Description: PGP

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-07 Thread Kumba
Philip Webb wrote: 070607 Kumba wrote: what should we call it? Vote on this! If users have votes ... Since I'm pretty much the pikachu-loving nutball that proposed this, I don't see why not. Users are as much a part of Gentoo as the developers are. --Kumba -- Gentoo/MIPS Team Lead "S

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-07 Thread Philip Webb
070607 Kumba wrote: > what should we call it? Vote on this! If users have votes ... > gentoo-politics ... that gets mine: let's keep it quite clear what it is. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-07 Thread Kumba
Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh wrote: We might need some sort of enforcement for that particular purpose. While I think that "behavior" proctors are inappropriate, I think that people with ability to say "move this thread to gentoo-politics or else.." for non-technical threads, as well as "stop failin

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-07 Thread Steev Klimaszewski
Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh wrote: > Steev Klimaszewski wrote: >> Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh wrote: >>> Marius Mauch wrote: Do you really think people would voluntarily use it? That's an >> honest question, maybe people are fair enough to do it, but I have >> serious doubts about it. It's of no u

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-07 Thread Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
Steev Klimaszewski wrote: > Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh wrote: > > Marius Mauch wrote: > >> Do you really think people would voluntarily use it? That's an > honest question, maybe people are fair enough to do it, but I have > serious doubts about it. It's of no use if people have to be told to > move

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-07 Thread Steev Klimaszewski
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Thu, 07 Jun 2007 11:50:02 -0500 > Steev Klimaszewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> No can do - temporarily banning is a bad thing, its censorship, and we >> can't have that, no sir. > > It's censorship when it's being done one-sidedly in order to skew an > argument base

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-07 Thread Doug Goldstein
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Thu, 07 Jun 2007 11:50:02 -0500 > Steev Klimaszewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> No can do - temporarily banning is a bad thing, its censorship, and we >> can't have that, no sir. >> > > It's censorship when it's being done one-sidedly in order to skew an > a

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-07 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 07 Jun 2007 11:50:02 -0500 Steev Klimaszewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No can do - temporarily banning is a bad thing, its censorship, and we > can't have that, no sir. It's censorship when it's being done one-sidedly in order to skew an argument based upon the prejudices of those doin

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-07 Thread Steev Klimaszewski
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh wrote: > Marius Mauch wrote: >> Do you really think people would voluntarily use it? That's an honest >> question, maybe people are fair enough to do it, but I have serious doubts >> about it. It's of no use if people have t

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-07 Thread Philip Webb
070607 Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh wrote: > people with ability to say "move this to gentoo-politics or else.." > for non-technical threads, as well as "stop failing to use logic > in your technical discussion or else..." with power > to temporarily ban people for non-compliance could be a useful thi

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-07 Thread Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
Marius Mauch wrote: > Do you really think people would voluntarily use it? That's an honest > question, maybe people are fair enough to do it, but I have serious doubts > about it. It's of no use if people have to be told to move threads from -dev > to that new list. > We might need some sort

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-07 Thread Kumba
Marius Mauch wrote: Do you really think people would voluntarily use it? That's an honest question, maybe people are fair enough to do it, but I have serious doubts about it. It's of no use if people have to be told to move threads from -dev to that new list. Most of what I wrote was tongue

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-07 Thread Kumba
Luca Barbato wrote: I'm ok with it, just I'd like to have it available as gentoo-fortune please. (btw I'd like to see the quotebot back from the old ages!) Oh, I could easily see the quote package for gentoo-politics (or whatever its called) raising much laughter (among other things). And

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-07 Thread Kumba
Christian Parpart wrote: +1 here too possible alternative names: gentoo-soap, gentoo-gossip ( not to be confused with net-im/gossip ) gentoo-soap, lol! "And these are the Flames of our Lives..." --Kumba -- Gentoo/MIPS Team Lead "Such is oft the course of deeds that move the wheels

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-07 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 07 Jun 2007 02:19:55 -0400 Kumba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So I'm told debian has one of these types of MLs, probably where the flames > burn > bright enough to have earned a star designation from the IAU. Given what's > been > going on lately, and with calls from myself and oth

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-07 Thread Jan Kundrát
Kent Fredric wrote: > possible alternative names: gentoo-soap, gentoo-gossip ( not to be > confused with net-im/gossip ) Please, please, make it gentoo-circuits [1]. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_My_Circuits Yours faithfully, -jkt -- cd /local/pub && more beer > /dev/mouth signature.

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-07 Thread Christian Parpart
On Thursday 07 June 2007 09:10:41 Kent Fredric wrote: > On 6/7/07, Kumba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Anyways, thoughts? > > > > --Kumba > > +1 +1 here too > possible alternative names: gentoo-soap, gentoo-gossip ( not to be > confused with net-im/gossip ) gentoo-soap, lol! signature.asc Des

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-07 Thread Luca Barbato
Kumba wrote: > So anyways, I'm all for this list, humour aside. It's blatantly obvious > people need a place to vent at times, and I think that by separating the > politics from the technical discussion, it might help in some way. Yes, > it'll also be the source of many problems too. I can't env

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-07 Thread Vlastimil Babka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kumba wrote: > And maybe a dev who > secretly dabbles in another OSlike Wind...err, Ubuntu! I thought this position has been already filled :) - -- Vlastimil Babka (Caster) Gentoo/Java -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-07 Thread Kent Fredric
On 6/7/07, Kumba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Anyways, thoughts? --Kumba +1 possible alternative names: gentoo-soap, gentoo-gossip ( not to be confused with net-im/gossip ) And just for fits and giggles, the occasional person can start a fake flame war just to keep us on our toes as to whats

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-06 Thread Luis Francisco Araujo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kumba wrote: > > So I'm told debian has one of these types of MLs, probably where the > flames burn bright enough to have earned a star designation from the > IAU. Given what's been going on lately, and with calls from myself and > others (i.e., mcum

[gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-06 Thread Kumba
So I'm told debian has one of these types of MLs, probably where the flames burn bright enough to have earned a star designation from the IAU. Given what's been going on lately, and with calls from myself and others (i.e., mcummings) to get back on track and actually like, you know, develop s