On Monday 05 April 2010 21:51:34 Nathan Zachary wrote:
> On 05/04/10 11:07, Jon Portnoy wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 08:50:49AM +0300, Eray Aslan wrote:
> >> Just replying randomly.
> >>
> >> On 05.04.2010 04:33, Tobias Heinlein wrote:
> >>> I think this is a good starting point to get rid o
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On 05-04-2010 18:26, Zeerak Mustafa Waseem wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 04:07:01PM +, Jon Portnoy wrote:
> There should be a process of weeding out developers that bitch and/or whine,
> but if most of the teams are understaffed then there has
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Nathan Zachary
wrote:
> [...] but it
> would be much more enlightening to me to work on creating ebuilds while
> working one-on-one with a mentor.
The whole purpose of the training period between the ebuild quiz and
the end quiz (see [1]) is exactly this. If your
On 05/04/10 11:07, Jon Portnoy wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 08:50:49AM +0300, Eray Aslan wrote:
>
>> Just replying randomly.
>>
>> On 05.04.2010 04:33, Tobias Heinlein wrote:
>>
>>> I think this is a good starting point to get rid of the "some important
>>> questions are too hard to ans
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Jon Portnoy wrote:
> Which is all well and good -- the "you wrote some ebuilds so here's
> your commit privs and @gentoo.org" approach to recruitment worked great
> when Gentoo had a few dozen developers.
>
> Today QA is a bit more important, and development is oft
On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 05:50:49PM +0100, George Prowse wrote:
> That assumes the system is working perfectly and the whole fact that
> we are having this discussion would go against that.
>
> From what i've read in the community, lots of people would have no
> problems helping out maintaining pac
On 04/05/2010 09:26 PM, Zeerak Mustafa Waseem wrote:
>
> The first option could be somewhat simple, we already have overlays
> so those could simply be used. The second option (which would be the
> best IMO) is a fair bit harder. The first thing that needs to be done
> is find out why people don'
On 05/04/2010 17:07, Jon Portnoy wrote:
On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 08:50:49AM +0300, Eray Aslan wrote:
Just replying randomly.
On 05.04.2010 04:33, Tobias Heinlein wrote:
I think this is a good starting point to get rid of the "some important
questions are too hard to answer" dilemma that can be
On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 04:07:01PM +, Jon Portnoy wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 08:50:49AM +0300, Eray Aslan wrote:
> > Just replying randomly.
> >
> > On 05.04.2010 04:33, Tobias Heinlein wrote:
> > > I think this is a good starting point to get rid of the "some important
> > > questions a
On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 08:50:49AM +0300, Eray Aslan wrote:
> Just replying randomly.
>
> On 05.04.2010 04:33, Tobias Heinlein wrote:
> > I think this is a good starting point to get rid of the "some important
> > questions are too hard to answer" dilemma that can be implemented
> > relatively fas
On 04/05/2010 03:48 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 03:33:52 +0200
Tobias Heinlein wrote:
3) Questions that aren't that important at all and would just be "nice
to know".
[snip]
Examples for these:
5. What is wrong with using $(somecommand) or `somecommand` or $ARCH
insi
On 04/05/2010 05:36 AM, Alistair Bush wrote:
>> On 4/3/10 3:40 PM, Ben de Groot wrote:
>>> Are there any other ideas on how to improve our recruitment process?
>>
>> The idea appeared before, but I think it's worth noting.
>>
>> Either merge the ebuild and end quizzes, or make the split actually
>>
On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 08:48:08AM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 03:33:52 +0200
> Tobias Heinlein wrote:
> > 3) Questions that aren't that important at all and would just be "nice
> > to know".
> > [snip]
> > Examples for these:
> >
> > 5. What is wrong with using $(somecomm
On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 03:33:52 +0200
Tobias Heinlein wrote:
> 3) Questions that aren't that important at all and would just be "nice
> to know".
> [snip]
> Examples for these:
>
> 5. What is wrong with using $(somecommand) or `somecommand` or $ARCH
> inside SRC_URI, DEPEND, etc?
> [Devm
Just replying randomly.
On 05.04.2010 04:33, Tobias Heinlein wrote:
> I think this is a good starting point to get rid of the "some important
> questions are too hard to answer" dilemma that can be implemented
> relatively fast. On top of that I like Sebastian's idea to order the
> quizzes by diff
> On 4/3/10 3:40 PM, Ben de Groot wrote:
> > Are there any other ideas on how to improve our recruitment process?
>
> The idea appeared before, but I think it's worth noting.
>
> Either merge the ebuild and end quizzes, or make the split actually
> meaningful. In my case I just finished both at t
I'd first like to extend the idea of bug #312977. It's basically about a
different level of detail for each question.
I think the quiz questions can be divided into different groups:
1) Questions that are fun to answer. People should either already know
the answer, know where to look, or be willi
On 4 April 2010 11:43, Petteri Räty wrote:
> Mentors can already suggest their students to do them in reverse order.
> As always patches to separate technical and organizational stuff to
> their own quizzes are accepted. My time on recruiting is quite maxed out
> already. Doing this means just not
Sebastian Pipping wrote:
> On 04/03/10 21:00, Jesus Rivero (Neurogeek) wrote:
>
>>Maybe if we could find the way to make the knowledge found in
>> quizzes be more "exciting" to new devs, then we could still have a
>> strong recruitment process without the burden of completing the
>> quizzes.
On 04/04/2010 12:48 AM, Sebastian Pipping wrote:
> On 04/03/10 21:00, Jesus Rivero (Neurogeek) wrote:
>>Maybe if we could find the way to make the knowledge found in
>> quizzes be more "exciting" to new devs, then we could still have a
>> strong recruitment process without the burden of complet
On 04/03/10 21:00, Jesus Rivero (Neurogeek) wrote:
>Maybe if we could find the way to make the knowledge found in
> quizzes be more "exciting" to new devs, then we could still have a
> strong recruitment process without the burden of completing the
> quizzes. So, what I propose is to transform
On 04/03/10 16:05, Petteri Räty wrote:
> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/staffing-needs/
>
> I don't know if developers know that this page is autogenerated from
> individual project pages these days so it's easy for any developer to
> get stuff there.
Has anyone every tried to read that pag
Hi guys,
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Ben de Groot wrote:
> On 3 April 2010 13:33, Richard Freeman wrote:
>> I really think that the Gentoo recruitment process needs improvement. Right
>> now it seems like a LOT of effort is required both to become a Gentoo dev
>> and to help somebody become
On 03/04/2010 15:05, Petteri Räty wrote:
On 04/03/2010 04:53 PM, George Prowse wrote:
Armed with a list of where developers are spread too thinly, a
willingness to answer questions (no matter how stupid you believe them
to be) and some prior organisation then i see no reason why Gentoo
wouldn'
On 04/03/2010 04:53 PM, George Prowse wrote:
>
> Armed with a list of where developers are spread too thinly, a
> willingness to answer questions (no matter how stupid you believe them
> to be) and some prior organisation then i see no reason why Gentoo
> wouldn't get an immediate influx of at le
On 04/03/2010 04:40 PM, Ben de Groot wrote:
>
> Another problem I see is that our documentation seems to be scattered
> all over the place. I propose that we make at least one portal page
> for (prospective) developers that will link them to all the resources
> they might need. It also means our
On 03/04/2010 14:40, Ben de Groot wrote:
On 3 April 2010 13:33, Richard Freeman wrote:
I really think that the Gentoo recruitment process needs improvement. Right
now it seems like a LOT of effort is required both to become a Gentoo dev
and to help somebody become a Gentoo dev. That means we h
On 4/3/10 3:40 PM, Ben de Groot wrote:
> Are there any other ideas on how to improve our recruitment process?
The idea appeared before, but I think it's worth noting.
Either merge the ebuild and end quizzes, or make the split actually
meaningful. In my case I just finished both at the same time,
On 3 April 2010 13:33, Richard Freeman wrote:
> I really think that the Gentoo recruitment process needs improvement. Right
> now it seems like a LOT of effort is required both to become a Gentoo dev
> and to help somebody become a Gentoo dev. That means we have great people,
> but not many of th
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