Re: [gentoo-dev] /var/lib/init.d/* vs. pidfiles

2006-12-23 Thread Roy Marples
On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 22:08:15 +0100 Enrico Weigelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > baselayout-1.13 is currently package.masked as there are still a few > > upgrade/downgrade issues to resolve with the 1.12 branch. However, > > it is unmasked on BSD profiles where it's enjoying great success. > > Hope

Re: [gentoo-dev] /var/lib/init.d/* vs. pidfiles

2006-12-23 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > baselayout-1.13 is currently package.masked as there are still a few > upgrade/downgrade issues to resolve with the 1.12 branch. However, it > is unmasked on BSD profiles where it's enjoying great success. > Hopefully in the new year it can be moved t

Re: [gentoo-dev] /var/lib/init.d/* vs. pidfiles

2006-12-23 Thread Roy Marples
On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 20:50:06 +0100 Enrico Weigelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 2) A simple status call to the init script checks running daemons > > and returns either 0 or 1 appropriately allowing a sys admin to > > report on crashed services and possible take an automated action. > > Yes, of

Re: [gentoo-dev] /var/lib/init.d/* vs. pidfiles

2006-12-23 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > If the lookup would go directly to checking things like pidfiles > > (where applicable) instead of the flag files, such problems would > > (IMHO) be entirely fixed. > > well that's why it's just your opinion and not actual fact ... > pidfiles are

Re: [gentoo-dev] /var/lib/init.d/* vs. pidfiles

2006-12-23 Thread Roy Marples
On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 20:50:06 +0100 Enrico Weigelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > > > > I'm going to stop you right there. > > Before claiming design problems in the init system, you could at > > least have the good grace to try out the most current a

Re: [gentoo-dev] /var/lib/init.d/* vs. pidfiles

2006-12-23 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 23 December 2006 14:50, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > Well, I just sync'ed and `emerge -puD system` doesn't show up anything > todo, and I didn't mask out anything. So can I assume my init system > is up to date ? i'm pretty sure he's talking about the 1.13 series which he's put a lot of ti

Re: [gentoo-dev] /var/lib/init.d/* vs. pidfiles

2006-12-23 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > I'm going to stop you right there. > Before claiming design problems in the init system, you could at least > have the good grace to try out the most current available in portage > where you would know Well, I just sync'ed and `emerge -puD system` do

Re: [gentoo-dev] /var/lib/init.d/* vs. pidfiles

2006-12-18 Thread Roy Marples
On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 18:39:06 +0100 Enrico Weigelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > the bug 139243 shows an possible problem in the init.d system > it stores the service status in /var/lib/init.d/started and I'm going to stop you right there. Before claiming design problems in the

[gentoo-dev] /var/lib/init.d/* vs. pidfiles

2006-12-18 Thread Enrico Weigelt
Hi folks, the bug 139243 shows an possible problem in the init.d system: it stores the service status in /var/lib/init.d/started and of course refuses to start an certain service if its already there (at least if "zap" not given). This is okay, as long as services don't die abnormally, as my nt