[gentoo-dev] Re: A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-02 Thread Ned Ludd
f this point. More abstract ideas at this point. > Ned Ludd : > > The dev population is quite a strange beast. I never expected to win. > > Nor did I, especially because you were quite low on my ballot. > Congratulations. > > > The devs have a voice one time of the ye

[gentoo-dev] A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-01 Thread Ned Ludd
The dev population is quite a strange beast. I never expected to win. Why would you vote for somebody who did not even publish a manifesto? I don't know but I love you for it. My only intention was to help offset dev-zero being able force the will of outside forces upon us. Well that has been acc

Re: [gentoo-dev] Announcement of The G Palmtop Environment ebuilds

2009-02-04 Thread Ned Ludd
On Thu, 2009-02-05 at 00:37 +, Angelo Arrifano wrote: > On Qua, 2009-02-04 at 18:36 +0200, Petteri Räty wrote: > Some packages are not automake driven. We have to detect those. > > > > > make DESTDIR=${D} PREFIX=/usr \ > > > STRIP=true ENABLE_NLS=${USE_NLS} \ > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Announcement of The G Palmtop Environment ebuilds

2009-02-03 Thread Ned Ludd
gt; Take the gpe-base/gpe meta ebuild which should pull all the stuff. > > Happy xcompiling, Assuming you have the G2 you could skip all that and simply merge from these .tbz2 into a $ROOT http://tinderbox.dev.gentoo.org/embedded/armv6j-softfloat-linux-gnueabi -- Ned Ludd Gentoo Linux

Re: [gentoo-dev] Commitlog-mailinglist

2007-08-07 Thread Ned Ludd
On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 08:28 +0200, Lars Weiler wrote: > * Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [07/08/06 19:20 +0300]: > > Well perhaps we should just look at the overall usage of the mail box > > instead of how it's used. I think there is already some limit in our > > policy for how big you can keep y

Re: [gentoo-dev] Commitlog-mailinglist

2007-08-06 Thread Ned Ludd
o mirror all cvs commits 2-300 times. -- Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] have any developers subscribed to -project?

2007-07-20 Thread Ned Ludd
On Fri, 2007-07-20 at 20:58 +0100, George Prowse wrote: > Do any devs subscribe to -project because no replies have yet to be > heard from developers... Please stop flooding my inbox. -- Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Linux -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-nfp] Nominations open for the 2007/08 Trustees

2007-07-17 Thread Ned Ludd
On Tue, 2007-07-17 at 10:08 -0500, Grant Goodyear wrote: > Ned Ludd wrote: [Mon Jul 16 2007, 04:00:44PM CDT] > > Long term I worry about the foundation. No offense to anybody. I'm sure > > I don't know or understand the problems you/we have encountered along > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: For Jakub (and the other procmail-impaired)

2007-07-17 Thread Ned Ludd
plain it like a responsible Council member. Or is this your swansong? If > so it's l4m3. Is there some reason you feel fscking compelled to respond to every single mail on this list. You know it's guys like mostly "just you" that are driving us away.. -- Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Linux -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] So...

2007-07-16 Thread Ned Ludd
assholes 14 including me that felt the need need to comment on this stupid ass thread. -- Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Linux -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

[gentoo-dev] About to retire

2007-07-16 Thread Ned Ludd
ables net-firewall/ebtables net-misc/netkit-telnetd net-misc/vconfig net-proxy/middleman (dead upstream) net-wireless/chillispot sys-devel/sparse -- Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Linux -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] ML changes

2007-07-12 Thread Ned Ludd
ount of mail in > total. FYI we do have stats.. http://archives.gentoo.org/stats/gentoo-dev-per-month.xml http://archives.gentoo.org/stats/gentoo-dev-per-year.xml http://archives.gentoo.org/stats/ -- Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] ML changes

2007-07-12 Thread Ned Ludd
idea a little bit for those who seem confused. Thanks in advance. -- Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Linux -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] ML changes

2007-07-12 Thread Ned Ludd
ely wonderful idea and I can't wait till we implement it. -- Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Linux -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

[gentoo-dev] New Linux-PAM stabling plans

2007-07-04 Thread Ned Ludd
Forwarded by request of somebody thats smart/lucky enough to not be on this list but still monitoring it. Forwarded Message From: Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: New Linux-PAM stabling plans Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 20:51:36 +0200 Hi everybody; sorry to mail

Re: [gentoo-dev] how to handle sensitive files when generating binary packages

2007-06-20 Thread Ned Ludd
in '/usr/portage/packages': > * dev-python/pycrypto-2.0.1-r5: 188K > -mike Please do the same for qpkg.c tia. -- Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Linux -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] how to handle sensitive files when generating binary packages

2007-06-20 Thread Ned Ludd
ut-1.12.10-r4 > * Including sensitive file: /etc/passwd > * Including sensitive file: /etc/shadow > * Including sensitive file: /etc/group > * Packages now in '/usr/portage/pacakges': > * sys-apps/baselayout-1.12.10-r4: 307K Suggestion: If you go down this "sensitive" route. please ensure that the generated.tbz2 is mode 600 to prevent exposing this sensitive data more than need be. -- Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Linux -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: phasing out app-accessibility/festival

2007-06-04 Thread Ned Ludd
festival and friends often in the past for lazy reading days. I know it's also used supported by asterisk and a few other programs. -- Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bye2u Gentoo

2007-05-31 Thread Ned Ludd
On Thu, 2007-05-31 at 11:21 -0700, Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh wrote: > Grmbl Can you do us a favor and provide us with a clone, for doing > MIPS keywording? Looks like Kumba has been quite active doing it recently. > Alexander Færøy wrote: > > Hey, > > > > It is my time to leave Gentoo as w

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bye Gentoo!

2007-05-31 Thread Ned Ludd
On Thu, 2007-05-31 at 08:47 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Thu, 31 May 2007 00:05:13 -0700 > Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I can understand your frustration and all but I expected and assumed > > you had big balls.. > > It takes more balls to go aga

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bye Gentoo!

2007-05-31 Thread Ned Ludd
On Thu, 2007-05-31 at 03:35 +0200, Bryan Østergaard wrote: > It's with a bit of sadness but also a bit of relief that I'm finally > retiring from > Gentoo. > > I've been a Gentoo developer for nearly 4 years now and I like to at least > pretend that I've made some important contributions to Gentoo

[gentoo-dev] Maintainers desired for a few simple pkgs.

2007-05-30 Thread Ned Ludd
I'm looking to get rid of a few ebuilds I half ass maintain. net-wireless/chillispot (Open source captive portal or wireless LAN access point controller) sys-devel/sparse (C semantic parser) Both are relativity low maintenance. Any takers? pretty please with party socks on top. -- Ned

Re: [gentoo-dev] Planning for automatic assignment of bugs

2007-04-27 Thread Ned Ludd
On Fri, 2007-04-27 at 10:57 -0700, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > On Fri, Apr 27, 2007 at 08:57:27AM -0700, Ned Ludd wrote: > > > In light of the above, how about 'automatic=0'? > > Please keep with your original idea of letting maintainers opt out vs > > some of the i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Planning for automatic assignment of bugs

2007-04-27 Thread Ned Ludd
the above, how about 'automatic=0'? Please keep with your original idea of letting maintainers opt out vs some of the ideas proposed in this thread where maintainers have to opt in as I'm sure the metadata.xml files wont be updated by enough people to really gain the benefit of what we are trying to do here if they have to do opt in. Thanks. -- Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Please fix your metadata.xml ASAP

2007-04-26 Thread Ned Ludd
ime in the near future. -- Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Linux -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-24 Thread Ned Ludd
x what you call a QA > issue and other problems when we've had issues highlighted for years > that the council can't move on. But once it's a possible issue with > paludis you guys are quick to respond. You might be overreacting a little here. To bring you up to speed vapier actually filed the original bug for this after I first noticed one of these atoms creeping into the tree while doing pre release atom compare testing for portage-utils around early February. Till this moment there was no definitive decision of any sort. -- Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Linux -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-core] Re: [gentoo-dev] Deskzilla license for Gentoo Bugzilla for everyone

2007-04-20 Thread Ned Ludd
like they want me to share it, and spread > the word ;-) > > Bjarke > > Ned Ludd wrote: > > You sent this to -dev vs -core.. Pretty sure they are going to need to > > revoke this license now. > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2007-04-20 at 2

Re: [gentoo-dev] Deskzilla license for Gentoo Bugzilla for everyone

2007-04-20 Thread Ned Ludd
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (MingW32) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFGKSstO+Ewtpi9rLERAq9AAJ9q1soT6/L9fzJlQ9e7PE2nnNrBSQCeK0gE > TY3o9fnj09fsmbEZut3VZac= > =gPXZ > -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Linux -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] $Header:$ and ebuilds

2007-04-20 Thread Ned Ludd
sers, it's confusing and they get it wrong > -mike -- Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] [POLICY] Keywording/Stabilizing Bug Assignment Policy

2007-04-17 Thread Ned Ludd
On Tue, 2007-04-17 at 14:56 -0400, Doug Goldstein wrote: > I would like to take this time to note and re-affirm the proper bug > assignment policy and have it noted somewhere officially in Gentoo Policy. > > Bugs that are created for the purpose of getting arches to keyword or > stabilize a partic

Re: [gentoo-dev] Removing retired developers from project pages

2007-04-17 Thread Ned Ludd
em. Thanks. -- Gentoo Linux Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: extending project xml to have stuff that the project is working on and collect them as Gentoo current goals

2007-04-10 Thread Ned Ludd
d completion date. > Then we require this file to be updated > monthly. What do you think? I'd rather not put this stipulation into place. Unless you are proposing that planet.gentoo.org die. Which I don't think you are doing.. -- Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Linux -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] base packages up for grabs

2007-04-09 Thread Ned Ludd
are currently open and one of those has an attached patch. In reality it should be fairly trivial to maintain. -- Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Linux -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] *DEVELOPMENT* mail list, right?

2007-04-06 Thread Ned Ludd
I'm looking for help from c coders to improve the portage-utils(qmerge) applet and package/profile requests from people who would be interested in rapid install methods. -- Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Linux -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April

2007-04-05 Thread Ned Ludd
published publicly I would of never sent them. -- Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Linux -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] [soc] Python bindings for Paludis

2007-03-29 Thread Ned Ludd
On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 14:03 -0700, Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh wrote: > Ned Ludd wrote: > > The correct reply should of been. > > "I'm sorry I did not mean to offend anybody. I'll make an effort to not > > make any cheap shots" > > > Man, stop

Re: [gentoo-dev] [soc] Python bindings for Paludis

2007-03-29 Thread Ned Ludd
On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 21:02 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 12:25:00 -0700 > Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You are being dismissive of the hard work others are doing. I find > > that downright offensive. You want to write a kickass package

Re: [gentoo-dev] [soc] Python bindings for Paludis

2007-03-29 Thread Ned Ludd
On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 20:06 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 11:57:36 -0700 > Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Portage or the tree? Portage is just a way of using the tree, and > > > it's not a very good one... > > > > C

Re: [gentoo-dev] [soc] Python bindings for Paludis

2007-03-29 Thread Ned Ludd
ome. > > Portage or the tree? Portage is just a way of using the tree, and it's > not a very good one... Can you please stop taking cheap pot shots every chance you get. We all get it. You are not a fan of portage. -- Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Linux -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] get pci info in Linux?

2007-03-29 Thread Ned Ludd
t; > from a C/C++ program just fine... > > sysfs and proc can be unexisting. Chances are you will need to directly communicate with the kernel via a module if proc and sys are not mounted. -- Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Linux -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed addition to the Social Contract

2007-03-27 Thread Ned Ludd
; > > > > > Can I assume this building has indoor plumbing? It can be on the top > floor and still get flooded. I saw a house once that the hot water > heater busted and water was about a foot deep and was coming out the > walls. > > More than one way to "flo

Re: Gentoo infra backups (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed addition to the Social Contract)

2007-03-27 Thread Ned Ludd
this. I personally see little to no benefit in the additional overhead in doing that. But if you can make a case to say robbat2 and pylon for why this would be useful to our community then I'm sure we could open up a rsync of the raw anoncvs mirror. -- Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed addition to the Social Contract

2007-03-26 Thread Ned Ludd
> things were up an running again in a few days. > The thing I'm worried about > most is insurrance. I trust that infra has backups of the important things > like our repositories. The hosting Gentoo gets from GNi is a world class service in some of the best data centers

Re: [gentoo-dev] dont use `which` in ebuilds

2007-03-16 Thread Ned Ludd
ld:28: sys-process/fcron/fcron-2.9.5.1.ebuild:31: sys-process/fcron/fcron-2.9.7.ebuild:26: sys-process/fcron/fcron-3.0.0.ebuild:33: sys-process/fcron/fcron-3.0.1-r1.ebuild:33: sys-process/fcron/fcron-3.0.1.ebuild:33: -- Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Linux -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] dont use `which` in ebuilds

2007-03-12 Thread Ned Ludd
ess/fcron/fcron-2.9.5.1.ebuild:31: sys-process/fcron/fcron-2.9.7.ebuild:26: sys-process/fcron/fcron-3.0.0.ebuild:33: sys-process/fcron/fcron-3.0.1-r1.ebuild:33: sys-process/fcron/fcron-3.0.1.ebuild:33: x11-misc/xoo/xoo-0.7.ebuild:25: -- Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Linux -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] more up to date minimal install cd

2007-03-03 Thread Ned Ludd
50+ people volunteering, about 5 actually helping > *at all*), the chances of a project such as nightly builds ever taking > off is well beyond our means at this time. > -- Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Linux -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Network configuration and bash

2007-02-08 Thread Ned Ludd
On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 14:49 -0700, Daniel Robbins wrote: > On 2/8/07, Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As somebody that's had to hand write many of those kinds of scripts. A > > single rcS is not very ideal. Our init scripts are in fact mostly usable > > by

Re: [gentoo-dev] Network configuration and bash

2007-02-08 Thread Ned Ludd
> this problem only when the arrays are used in config files. > > > > i guess my point was i think we really need to be consistent here ... either > > arrays are OK for init.d scripts or they're not OK > > > > did you get a chance to see how hard it would be to integrate the bash array > > code ? > > -mike > > > > -- Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Linux -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] New network config for baselayout-ng

2007-02-07 Thread Ned Ludd
gt; config_eth0="10.1.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0; 10.1.1.2/24" The ; seems logical. > > You could even use bash expansion here, provided that bash is your shell > config_eth0="10.1.1.{1..30}/8; 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" > > See, that's not

Re: [gentoo-dev] Network configuration and bash

2007-02-06 Thread Ned Ludd
the request is reasonable like stop using some bashism in favor of the > POSIX form and the change isnt invasive, then sure we'll generally make the > change /me likes the direction Roy is heading with this. > -mike -- Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Linux -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eclass proposal - savedconfig.eclass

2007-02-02 Thread Ned Ludd
her package in Gentoo would be nice. > > But with make oldconfig, so the user gets asked about new options, and > those get saved back to the savedconfig, right? No way.. Please see how we handle this in busybox.ebuild which is the best documented example of the savedconfig option in the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Topic for Feb council meeting

2007-01-29 Thread Ned Ludd
t should be offered to the 8th person, at which point either > he/she will then refuse the nomination and it's offered to the 9th. > Rinse and repeat. > If we run out of nominees then we'll need another election. > Agreed. #3 >From my POV having a new election potenti

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ecompress heads up

2007-01-27 Thread Ned Ludd
> What about .zip? Not apart of the base-system. > > *runs away* > -- Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Linux -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] GIT vs? SVN (was: Re: Re: [RFC] Some sync control)

2007-01-25 Thread Ned Ludd
oth. Those who > wish git can go for it (the git repo, as pointed out on this list, can > initially be fetched via rsync or tarballs or whatever comes in handy) > and those who dislike git can just go with svn and be happy with it. > > Jokey > -- Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Linux -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] deprecating /etc/make.profile

2007-01-10 Thread Ned Ludd
; application that analyises packages as they install to check whether > they reference make.profile or not, and flag a QA warning if they do. > > And packages that don't switch to the standard by the end of the grace > period I guess we'll see on a "last rites" bu

Re: [gentoo-dev] deprecating /etc/make.profile

2007-01-10 Thread Ned Ludd
the symlink to figure out the profile. If this change does happen I'd suggest that we support make.profile symlinks as long as they exist unless the make.conf defines the variable. If variable exists it should override. -- Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Linux -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentle reminder about ChangeLog entries on profiles

2007-01-08 Thread Ned Ludd
dit those profiles often. We/I try to keep them as static as possible. When they do change it's usually cuz somebody has some brilliant idea for some non linux which forces all other profiles to update to mask or unmask some use flag. We/I tend to request that they update it themselves. But

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: PORTAGE_BINHOST Madness

2007-01-08 Thread Ned Ludd
cvs.py/*checkout*/gentoolkit/trunk/src/genpkgindex/genpkgindex it generates output like the following. http://tinderbox.dev.gentoo.org/hardened/x86/Packages -- Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Linux -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Portage feature addition

2006-12-05 Thread Ned Ludd
On Tue, 2006-12-05 at 08:58 +, Steve Long wrote: > Ned Ludd wrote: > > > > > cd $(portageq envvar PORTDIR)/virtual/ > > mkdir mike > > cd mike > > echo 'echo OWNED at phase $EBUILD_PHASE' > mike-0.0.ebuild > > emerge -pv mike > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage feature addition

2006-12-03 Thread Ned Ludd
vvar PORTDIR)/virtual/ mkdir mike cd mike echo 'echo OWNED at phase $EBUILD_PHASE' > mike-0.0.ebuild emerge -pv mike > -mike -- Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Linux -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: AT emerge info cruft > attachments on bugs.g.o

2006-08-13 Thread Ned Ludd
t; depending on your needs. (The only other case where it helps is > uclibc, which is probably already a special enough case that it can > be mostly ignored for this thread.) /me lands in the profiles dir when he really wants the *-* dir all the time. -- Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Linux -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Ned Ludd
his :p > > Of course I know this, and it sucks. If sandbox is so tightly > integrated with portage, then why *isn't* there a portage team member > who works on sandbox? cuz portage is a python beast and azarah wrote sandbox in c as a preload module. And really as Mike already pointed ou

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Ned Ludd
art is why features like this should be opt-in vs opt-out or be left up to the $ARCH teams. A lot of people are opting in so most of these will be fixed in due time.. The $ARCH teams *should* already be setting this feature for the most part before stable markings. It's a noble idea. I just don't think we are ready for FEATURES=test && USE=test either. -- Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Linux -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-03 Thread Ned Ludd
On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 16:07 +0200, Jakub Moc wrote: > Ned Ludd wrote: > > On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 08:06 -0500, Lance Albertson wrote: > >>>> Would like the Council to discuss the current state of Gentoo Bugzilla > >>>> [1] and anon CVS/SVN [2]. > >&g

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-03 Thread Ned Ludd
On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 08:06 -0500, Lance Albertson wrote: > Ned Ludd wrote: > > On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 11:21 +0200, Jakub Moc wrote: > >> Mike Frysinger wrote: > >>> This is your monthly friendly reminder ! Same bat time (typically the > >>> 2nd Thursda

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-03 Thread Ned Ludd
ncil to discuss the current state of Gentoo Bugzilla > [1] and anon CVS/SVN [2]. Please elaborate why you need the council to discuss ongoing active bugs that are in progress. -- Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Linux -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] SpanKY's Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2007

2006-07-31 Thread Ned Ludd
On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 00:29 +0200, Alexandre Buisse wrote: > On Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 23:14:56 +0200, Ned Ludd wrote: > > -- No -- > > nattfodd (nfc) ... > clue"? I might agree to both :) Meaning only that we have not really worked together. -- Ned Ludd <[EMAI

Re: [gentoo-dev] SpanKY's Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2007

2006-07-31 Thread Ned Ludd
On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 21:39 +, Bryan Ãstergaard wrote: > On Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 04:48:42PM -0400, Ned Ludd wrote: > > kloeri (nice guy but dunno if the council is a proper match) > Guess I could do a lot worse than "nice guy" :) I haven't been part of > th

Re: [gentoo-dev] SpanKY's Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2007

2006-07-31 Thread Ned Ludd
On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 23:30 +0200, Lars Weiler wrote: > * Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [06/07/31 16:48 -0400]: > > Pylon (maybe.. not around enough however) > > I don't know the basis for your statement, but I'm quite > good around. > > Is it that you do

Re: [gentoo-dev] SpanKY's Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2007

2006-07-31 Thread Ned Ludd
e I have a lot to > offer but when you all are voting it should be something you are > thinking about. Thanks for clarifying. I wish you the best of luck then. -- Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Linux -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] SpanKY's Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2007

2006-07-31 Thread Ned Ludd
/other?) wolf31o2 (releng/future trustee) -- Yes -- vapier (global) KingTaco (infra/amd64) lu_zero (senior dev/ppc) jaervosz (sec dev) ramereth (infra) robbat2 (gpg signing/CGL) -- No -- nattfodd (nfc) patrick (nope) pauldv (probably not/new dad) spb (really bad idea) -- Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Linux -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] New category: net-voip

2006-07-22 Thread Ned Ludd
On Wed, 2006-07-19 at 17:10 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 11:10:51 -0400 Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | Every single year quarter after quarter the more updates > | that happen the slower portage is becoming. > | Care to solve that? > > Th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New category: net-voip

2006-07-18 Thread Ned Ludd
On Tue, 2006-07-18 at 15:51 +0200, Stefan Schweizer wrote: > Ned Ludd wrote: > > Creation of a new categories is fine. pkg moves are bad. > > See the countless other posting on this subject of why pkg > > moves are bad. > yeah new packages is my primary concern. > &g

Re: [gentoo-dev] New category: net-voip

2006-07-18 Thread Ned Ludd
On Tue, 2006-07-18 at 15:15 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 09:34:37 -0400 Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | Creation of a new categories is fine. pkg moves are bad. > | See the countless other posting on this subject of why pkg > | moves are bad. &g

Re: [gentoo-dev] New category: net-voip

2006-07-18 Thread Ned Ludd
us might think so please just don't do that part. I've got no objection to the creation of a new category for *new* packages. > > > [1] http://overlays.gentoo.org/svn/dev/genstef/net-im > -- Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Linux -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Making procfs mount as nosuid,noexec by default

2006-07-15 Thread Ned Ludd
On Sat, 2006-07-15 at 13:41 -0400, Ned Ludd wrote: > On Sat, 2006-07-15 at 17:45 +0100, Daniel Drake wrote: > > Hi, > > > > The local root exploit-of-the-week would have been unable to run if our > > users systems had /proc mounted with nosuid and/or noexec >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Making procfs mount as nosuid,noexec by default

2006-07-15 Thread Ned Ludd
people's thoughts? I mailed Mike about this very thing a month ago. Pretty sure it should be showing up in an upcoming baselayout. But yeah it's a good idea for the nosuid part anyway. Not 100% sure about the noexec part as that might break upx which calls /proc/self/exe as part of it&#x

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dying on some CFLAGS instead of filtering them.

2006-07-10 Thread Ned Ludd
l per-package CFLAGS are implemented. per pkg cflags are here already it would fall under the per pkg env variables. -- Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Linux -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: Gentoo vs GNU toolchain (was Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags)

2006-07-08 Thread Ned Ludd
On Fri, 2006-07-07 at 23:09 +0200, Harald van Dijk wrote: > On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 03:57:51PM -0400, Ned Ludd wrote: > > On Fri, 2006-07-07 at 20:40 +0200, Harald van Dijk wrote: > > > On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 01:55:03PM -0400, Ned Ludd wrote: > > > > Keep pushing th

Re: Gentoo vs GNU toolchain (was Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags)

2006-07-08 Thread Ned Ludd
On Fri, 2006-07-07 at 15:18 -0500, Tushar Teredesai wrote: > On 7/7/06, Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You want a pure 100% > > vanilla(POS) non working toolchain then go download it and > > compile it yourself. You will soon see why things exist the way &

Re: Gentoo vs GNU toolchain (was Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags)

2006-07-07 Thread Ned Ludd
On Fri, 2006-07-07 at 20:40 +0200, Harald van Dijk wrote: > On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 01:55:03PM -0400, Ned Ludd wrote: > > Keep pushing this and the only thing you will end up with is the > > vanilla flag being removed all together.. > > Is that a threat? If not, is there

Re: Gentoo vs GNU toolchain (was Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags)

2006-07-07 Thread Ned Ludd
t; > that patch makes no difference to code generation. > > Yes, but if GCC_SPECS is defined in the environment, I don't know enough > about it to be sure that it interacts properly with -specs command-line > options. Even if it works perfectly, though, the point remains that it > does not belong in a USE=vanilla build. Keep pushing this and the only thing you will end up with is the vanilla flag being removed all together.. You want a pure 100% vanilla(POS) non working toolchain then go download it and compile it yourself. You will soon see why things exist the way they do.. -- Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Linux -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Adding CPUFLAGS USE_EXPAND variable to the profiles

2006-07-07 Thread Ned Ludd
gt; > I know, there aren't use-based deps in portage yet, but I really feel > uncomfortable to be unable to use cpuflags in metadata phase. This is > what worries me most. > > Danny > -- > Danny van Dyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Gentoo/AMD64 Project, Gentoo Scientific Project -- Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Linux -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags

2006-07-06 Thread Ned Ludd
On Thu, 2006-07-06 at 19:09 +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > On Thursday 06 July 2006 18:58, Ned Ludd wrote: > > All together as in across the board? Or simply for the 1 pkg > > in question? > For the package in question of course. Do you think I'm an i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags

2006-07-06 Thread Ned Ludd
On Thu, 2006-07-06 at 18:44 +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > On Thursday 06 July 2006 17:33, Ned Ludd wrote: > > I tend to agree this might be a cleaner approach vs having to edit & > > redit CFLAGS all over the place. > Really if one has to disable mmx s

Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags

2006-07-06 Thread Ned Ludd
supported and probably never will be. Gentoo uses the GNU Toolchain. -- Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Linux -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags

2006-07-06 Thread Ned Ludd
iles the build system is > using? That is not the case anymore.. See PORTAGE_CONFIGROOT= and the attachment as an example which solves this exact problem. -- Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Linux export PORTDIR=$(portageq envvar PORTDIR) export ROOT=/dev/shm/blah export PORTAGE_CONFI

Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags

2006-07-06 Thread Ned Ludd
ner? I tend to agree this might be a cleaner approach vs having to edit & redit CFLAGS all over the place. -- Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Linux -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Announce: standalone libgpm

2006-07-05 Thread Ned Ludd
vice > > phone: +49 36207 519931 www: http://www.metux.de/ > fax: +49 36207 519932 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > cellphone: +49 174 7066481 > - -- Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Linux -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Virtualization Herd

2006-07-04 Thread Ned Ludd
kage updates take longer and longer over time. It also forces people to run fixpackages more than they really should ever have to. Sometimes even causing a full remerge of the package. Please just be happy that the packages all exist and are being well maintained after. -- Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PR

Re: [gentoo-dev] mozilla{-bin}/gecko-sdk masking

2006-07-01 Thread Ned Ludd
On Fri, 2006-06-30 at 22:30 -0500, Jory A. Pratt wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Ned Ludd wrote: > > On Fri, 2006-06-30 at 19:39 -0500, Jory A. Pratt wrote: > >> As many are aware by now mozilla{-bin} are full of security issues. I > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] mozilla{-bin}/gecko-sdk masking

2006-06-30 Thread Ned Ludd
rade path on everybody. Please don't shift the blame on others.. We have ~arch and blockers for stuff like this... Please don't take this as a personal attack... I'm just calling shit as I see it. -- Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Linux -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Future developer

2006-06-30 Thread Ned Ludd
im to full developership ;-). > > In the meantime, he's got his own album on > http://www.cs.ru.nl/~pauldv/tom/ > > Paul > > ps. If I'm a bit away these days, it is due to me being preoccupied with my > mentoring task. > -- Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Linux -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] fix binary debug support, part elevenity billion + 1

2006-06-29 Thread Ned Ludd
On Thu, 2006-06-08 at 09:54 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Ned Ludd wrote: > > On Thu, 2006-06-08 at 07:49 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > >> Ned Ludd wrote: > >>> -for conf in ${PN}-${PV}-${PR} ${PN}-${PV} ${PN}; do > >>> +for conf in defau

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo-dev-announce list

2006-06-27 Thread Ned Ludd
re rare. It would be easier to have an > standard subject heading (maybe ANNOUNCEMENT:) that people can use in > their filters. If devs start abusing it, then we'll vote them off the > island :) Simple, Effective.. I like it.. -- Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Linux -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] Resignation

2006-06-25 Thread Ned Ludd
On Sun, 2006-06-25 at 10:33 -0500, Jory A. Pratt wrote: [snip] > P.S > I will not leave you all the users with noone to maintain the packages > that 98% of you all depend on when it comes to a browser. Thanks.. /me guesses you had a few brews when you wrote said mail. --

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo-dev-announce list

2006-06-24 Thread Ned Ludd
help to give more focus to discussions on > gentoo-dev because the goal will be to get a real decision to send to > gentoo-dev-announce. I would be in favor of a gentoo-dev-announce list if it allowed me to unsubscribe from this list. -- Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Linux -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] sunrise, a temporary compromise

2006-06-23 Thread Ned Ludd
arks. That is a foundation issue and would have to be raised with them. -- Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Linux -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] embedded overlay on overlays.gentoo.org

2006-06-17 Thread Ned Ludd
On Sat, 2006-06-17 at 18:04 +0200, Stefan Schweizer wrote: > Hi, > solar has requested an account on overlays.gentoo.org for the embedded > overlay for you. > Your password: DX7wnSe40Y think you can change my pw and lets do this offlist? -- Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: A heretical thought? Blessing project sunrise as an almost-fork.

2006-06-14 Thread Ned Ludd
On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 17:25 -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 14:47 -0400, Ned Ludd wrote: > > On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 09:13 -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > > > > > Just because the maintaining *project* doesn't > > > want it doesn

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