icial repository .
I will take a look at it.
That being said, the wiki page still has the now broken repository. [2]
Something needs to be done to remedy the situation.
Regards,
Kevin Brace
Brace Computer Laboratory blog
https://bracecomputerlab.com
[1]: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Eclipse
infrastructure project because I work on totally different type of code
development projects, but I feel like something has to be done to update the
Eclipse IDE ebuilds to keep up with Portage.
Let me know what more experienced Gentoo developers think.
Regards,
Kevin Brace
Brace Computer Laboratory
# Kevin Simmons (11 Nov 2016)
# Is holding up removal of old versions of
# sci-geosciences/osm-gps-map.
# Removal in 30 days.
app-misc/gramps-3.4.9
ser access
set up before I commit?
Regards,
Kevin
Hi Guys， We have finish compiling stage3 for ppc64 (little-endian).Here is
the link:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2k84p6709AyTFlwLUF1WjlxUk0/view?usp=sharing
Now we are going to build LiveCD using stage3. Could you help to give
some demo or a guide for building LiveCD? That will help we a
> >
> > How about uncommenting a line that does so. All you are buying into is
> > a default setup.
>
> App authors don't ship configs like that though. Does apt ship a sudo
> config? Does anything?
Perhaps you missed my opening message on this topic, except it was in
your first reply.
> >
> > I never meant it is rubbish as such but I saw it as rediculously
> > inferior to sudo before I even read this.
> >
> > http://drfav.wordpress.com/2012/05/11/the-quest-towards-trusted-client-applications-a-rambling/
>
> Perhaps I'm misunderstanding, but that is talking about a specific set
On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 22:19:37 +0200
Maxim Kammerer wrote:
> This is a major problem, there are other questionable choices that
> raise the question whether developers are familiar with how things are
> done on Unix:
> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58787
>
I have to confess that de
> > Unless sudo has some config setting that allows access only when
> > logged in via console it isn't really a solution.
> >
> > Rich
> >
man sudoers -> /requiretty
>
> I manage 'thousands' of desktops at Google and we generally like
> polkit.
I never meant it is rubbish as such but I saw i
> > Debian having to patch KDE to use /etc for configs is simply wrong too.
>
> huh huh, do you know if they have a fix for
> http://bugs.gentoo.org/438790 to stop KDE from destroying upstream
> polkit files?
I don't, I just know that on Debian the configs are in /etc and the bug
you mention,
> William is packaging upstream udev for Gentoo.
>
> You are shooting the messenger.
I expect there is 0 blame meant for William.
P.s.
Is it William that Lennart dished some blame in the direction of. I
completely disagree. It's not the job of every distro to look for all
build flags to fix
> but
> again it appears that simple cases are being made complex, just to allow
> for someone else's complex cases. Which is faulty logic.
It's a welcome option but an important question seems to be; Why wasn't
this picked up in the dev cycle?.
This reminds me of udisks 8 months ago losing feat
On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 15:42:39 +0100
Tobias Klausmann wrote:
> I _do_ think that his concerns need
> to be addressed, particularly the second half of his statement.
Whilst I agree that if it does debians system shouldn't undermine
mozillas. I think the latest efforts are a pointless bandaid but I
On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 08:21:10 + (UTC)
Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote:
> I was curious, however, as I'd been reading about running X as
> non-root,
I use some hackery to run startx on some systems as a normal user on
linux and without suid. The only important things to me that break on
th
> We're drifting here, but the concept is that machine-local stuff like
> configuration stays out of /usr, and generic distro stuff stays in
> /usr.
>
> A webserver for site1 vs site2 would be identical in /usr, but
> different elsewhere.
That has always been the case. In fact people have tried t
On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 09:13:28 -0800
Greg KH wrote:
> No, not at all, please see the web page that describes, in detail, the
> problems that has been going on for quite some time now, with the /usr
> and / partitions and packages.
> http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/separate-usr-is
> People simply don't seem to realize that you can go away and
> do something else while all that's happening
Like servers I prefer build machines to be more secure dedicated build
machines without a browser or X, so I expect it's a bit of a barrier
for me.
Having said that I haven't found the t
On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 11:19:20 +0100
Tomáš Chvátal wrote:
> The only reason why we have this currently in usr is that bsd ports
> put their stuff in there and I suppose Daniel just did the same.
>> +1 on /var/cache.
>>
>>> Agreed.
>>>Bonus points if we consider suggesting to move it on a dedica
Firstly I use your longlasting 3.2 kernel currently though perhaps not
for long as I'm switching distro to avoid systemd and thank you for
the LTS work, however that won't stop me speaking my mind.
_
> > Greg, can you write back t
Hi everyone,
My name is Kevin Carillo. I am a PhD student currently living in Wellington
(New Zealand) and I am doing some research on Free/Open Source Software
communities.
If you have joined the Gentoo community after January 2010 (within
approximately the last 3 years), I would like to
On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 17:38:29 -0400
"Anthony G. Basile" wrote:
> On 03/13/2011 04:19 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > On Saturday, March 12, 2011 07:36:35 Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote:
> >> I wonder why pax-utils.eclass uses elog instead of just einfo. An
> >> example message looks like this:
> >>
> >> *
Hi all,
I was nosing through bugzilla, and noticed:
* Number of open bugs is greater than 14,000
* Number of open bugs untouched for more than 2 years - well over 2000.
* Number of open bugs untouched between 1 and 2 years - well over 2000.
* Number of open bugs untouched between 6 months and 1 y
e fixed.
>
Herd: desktop-misc
Herd: net-im
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# Crashes when opening images wrt #325879
# Upstream dead since 2004. No gentoo maintainer.
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Hi all
I'm finally giving in to reality and retiring as a Gentoo Dev. I've
been effectively inactive since March last year and lack of time
means that isn't going to change any time soon. I'll still be using
Gentoo of course, so I'll still stick my nose in on bugzilla now and
again :)
There's
e decided that users couldn't
give insights to the developers list.
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Simply put: One Step At A Time.
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My 2 non-dev cents,
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a 7Kb init.d script that badly needs complete rewriting due to upstream and
> kernel changes:
> net-fs/autofs
I'll see what I can do with this one. I won't have access to my network
for a couple weeks, but when I get back home I'll poke into it.
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Greg KH wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 10, 2007 at 07:10:35PM +0200, Dominique Michel wrote:
Can you explain more. If the kernel can be tivoized by someone
>>> I'm sorry, but "tivoized" is not a verb. Please explain what you mean
>>> by this.
>> I mean if someone distribute a kernel with a licence that
ow about adding another function to the ebuild format? pkg_getinfo()?
Kevin
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ave packages that IUSE pch add
a call in pkg_setup (which would either die, or disable distcc).
On a related note, we had a discussion on bug #128810 a while back about
whether the package manager should be doing distcc and ccache at all,
anyway. Personally I think the package manager sho
t at emerge time (well, to be honest, I've
ended up patching portage locally to make the "bad code" thing
non-fatal).
In a broader scope, we could do with a "QA check control" file or
something to provide finer-grained control of these QA checks. However
the QA checks themselves seem to be a bit ad-hoc at the moment.
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ould include (concatenate) all the exception
clauses that lead to the same thing into that license file and have the
relevant packages use that license name.
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However, with INSTALL_MASK, the user makes the decision never to have
static binaries, and thus gets a system free of static libraries.
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On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 17:46:18 +0200
Danny van Dyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Am Sonntag, 22. April 2007 schrieb Michael Cummings:
> > On Sat, Apr 21, 2007 at 08:47:54AM +0100, Kevin F. Quinn wrote:
> > > I do the same. The '$Header: $' tells me which version
e revision
identification is _always_ recorded in the file - I've never yet seen
an SCM used in practice that didn't have that information. The reason
people put that information in, is so that when the file is taken out
of the context of the SCM repository, it's still clear wh
of a file in the
CVS tree I last synced to in my overlay, then I can just do a cvs diff
on the tree to get a patch of differences since then. Very useful.
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would be more efficient on SVN than CVS, in
terms of the amount of data transferred between the client and server
(svn client sends diffs, cvs client sends whole files, and the diff
operation in the repoman cycle would be local in svn).
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#x27;ve used it
for.
I wouldn't want to write anything sizable in XML, as the markup just
gets in the way, much like many other markup languages (LaTeX, GROFF
etc). Docutils' RST (reStructuredText) is much better in this regard;
its markup is much less intrusive than anything else I've used.
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;be
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On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 22:46:07 +0100
Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 22:07:08 +0100
> "Kevin F. Quinn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Certainly good explanations as to why a bug is being closed are to
> > be encouraged. M
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 23:17:52 +0200
Alin Năstac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Kevin F. Quinn wrote:
> > The problem I have with NOTABUG is pretty much the same problem I
> > have with INVALID - it's not as severe, but it still does the same
> > thing to the user
lso harsh for the developers to have to handle bugs that are
> not related to them.
>
> Still, changing the name from INVALID to NOTABUG + NOTOURBUG does
> make sense, as the meaning doesn't get lost.
I don't think we need NOTOURBUG. Anything that's a real bug, but not a
bu
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 14:48:25 -0400
Michael Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 06:34:21PM +0100, Kevin F. Quinn wrote:
> > People reporting bugs often get annoyed when their bug is marked
> > INVALID; especially when they're relatively new to
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 19:14:38 +0100
Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 18:34:21 +0100
> "Kevin F. Quinn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > People reporting bugs often get annoyed when their bug is marked
> > INVALID; especiall
ardless what we think of it. To that end
I'd like to propose bugzilla be reconfigured to use the phrase
"NOCHANGE" instead of "INVALID". NOCHANGE would indicate that whatever
the original issue, no change is needed on our part to resolve the
issue.
Any reasons why this
the removals then). Noting the expected downgrade in the
changelog when the higher-numbers are removed is important (this is
what users will see if they do emerge -l).
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I'd just like to say good job and thanks, to all involved in the CoC.
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him. Be part of the
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e", I think is the appropriate response :)
Seriously, if you want portage to be re-factored, just go ahead and do
it; there's nothing to stop you.
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e debate, to
join that list, which may help limit the number of people who get
involved. Perhaps gentoo-discuss.
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should and should not be in the CoC.
The scope can be decided in broad discussion - after which the CoC can
be drafted off-line and then presented for review against the scope
before final sign-off.
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On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:18:58 +0100
Christian Faulhammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Kevin F. Quinn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > So please, friends, just ignore it, nothing positive will come of
> > it.
>
> Unfortunately it made its way onto big
ens every few months
or so, and IMO it's more about steam venting than the specific
issues at hand at the time. Responding to the sort of pathetic
blogging seen on Distrowatch is a bad thing, its sends the signal that
rantings on the blog-o-sphere are due some respect, which the article
of the 1
ate action should
problems arise.
(could equally be 'proctors appointed by the elected council')
Well, that's about all I can manage for now - don't expect a full
critique in such a short timescale...
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you realise now, if you didn't before, your mail program threads
correctly by references ;)
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x27;s agreement in PDF here:
http://www.fsf-europe.org/projects/fla/FLA.en.pdf
This may be more appropriate than a straight copyright assingment as
used by FSF (US).
I guess this is an issue for the trustees, rather than the council, but
(b)cc'ed both for comment.
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le who are not Gentoo devs, but are _critically_ important
to the work that I do for Gentoo. After all, although we call
ourselves developers, really we're integrators.
Today, being a dev (which essentially means having commit access
to Gentoo repositories) is mostly about taking responsibility for
only advantage it has is that it looks a little bit
prettier - but I'd argue the logic is clearer in the re-written version.
I guess the question remains, though - should that syntax be in EAPI=0
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would (happily) expect. Queries about whether some current
portage behaviours should be classed as quirks or EAPI=0 behaviour,
presumably because the answer has a large impact on the design of a
package manager. A good example is the recent one about whether EAPI=0
should require that th
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 12:33:52 +
Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 13:22:48 +0100 "Kevin F. Quinn"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | Do you object to such packages (specifically with security issues)
> | being p.masked?
>
packages (specifically with security issues) being
p.masked?
I'm not sure we should be encouraging people to continue using packages
when we know there are known security issues.
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gt; > -mike
>
> Mike how about... yabl.. or ya-baselayout..
How about baselayout-nb (No Bash) :)
More seriously baselayout-posix, if posix-compliance of all scripts is
a primary motivation.
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bash versions with runscript defaulting
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ement? If Gentoo does a booth at an Expo is this
> > included?
> > What about a magazine article on Gentoo?
> >
> > The University of California, Berkeley revoked their clause 3 in
> > 1999 I
> > believe because of similar legal vagueness over advertising.
> > (ref: http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/license.html)
> >
> > Can you consider doing the same?
> >
> > Other references:
> > http://farragut.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org/articles/2007/01/08/a-
> > shadow-lies-upon-all-bsd-distributions
> > --
> > Daniel Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Gentoo Foundation
>
> ---
>
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es - the shebang is clearly all about how
the script is executed, and the shell used falls nicely into that.
> And voila, problem solved. Of course, that's just an idea I just had.
> However, I also think that baselayout provided services should not
> require bash for the above reasons, hence the need for a new config.
I think the argument for conf.d files is better than that for init.d
scripts; you could have multiple baselayout setups that share conf.d
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e to
provide more than one baselayout; one for large systems, where
expecting to have bash available isn't such a big deal, and one for
limited systems, restricted to busybox-standard sh. Actually I kinda
assumed that's what baselayout-lite was all about...
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gt; proceed to implement it; if it will only be used by this ebuild; then
> i am already against it ;-)
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On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 14:04:49 -0600
Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Kevin F. Quinn wrote:
> >> It would but having some kind of deadline after which you are for
> >> example free to take over the package if you want to would be nice.
> >
> > That
On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 10:19:21 -0600
Grant Goodyear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [lots of good stuff]
I was going to respond to Timothy's proposal in much the same way - but
Grant has said everything much better than I would have done!
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arly asking the current maintainer if
they mind you putting a fix in.
If that approach doesn't succeed, it should then be put in the hands of
devrel to arbitrate. I don't see that anything more is needed.
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you say USE=boost-tr1,
you get it even if the active compiler provides tr1). The idea
being to avoid dependencies on the host build system, where
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est thing would be to make it identical to the template at
opensource.org: http://www.opensource.org/licenses/bsd-license.php
This means just removing the redundant '*'s from the continuation lines.
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t; > do.
> >
>
>
>
> > And packages that don't switch to the standard by the end of the
> > grace period I guess we'll see on a "last rites" bulletin ;)
>
> Or we/gentoo could just support it and stop breaking the end user.
A simple expedient would be to have the package manager re-create the
symlink according to the variable, whenever it is run.
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eport a violation). Waiting on azarah to roll a new sandbox version,
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ld should set these variables only if there is
> > some exception.
>
> that seems like a not-too-shabby idea actually
Not sure. Would we run the risk that working ebuilds would start to
fail when newer autotools versions arrive?
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On Thu, 4 Jan 2007 12:00:51 +0100
Paul de Vrieze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thursday 04 January 2007 11:42, Kevin F. Quinn wrote:
> > On Wed, 3 Jan 2007 10:18:51 +0100
> >
> > Paul de Vrieze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I know that I'm
he only other sane alternative would be to use license groups
(assuming license groups can be specified in the LICENSE variable). I
don't recall the status of license groups in portage.
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nstall stuff with a license they don't accept. It won't really be
needed until someone wants to have GPL-3 stuff but no GPL-2-only stuff
- I think it's reasonable to avoid supporting that for a while, at
least. If we start now, with all new commits having GPL-2 changed to
GPL-2+ if approp
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ND THAT BY CONTINUING THE DOWNLOAD OR
> INSTALLATION OF THE SOFTWARE, BY LOADING OR RUNNING THE SOFTWARE,
> OR BY PLACING OR COPYING THE SOFTWARE ONTO YOUR COMPUTER HARD DRIVE
> OR RAM, YOU AGREE TO BE BOUND BY THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THIS
> AGREEMENT."
in particular the download & installation bits (loading, running being
user concerns, not sys-admin/portage concerns). IANAL so of course I
can't say whether the proposed rules are necessary and sufficient.
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ever it
might be a simple but effective method to help people maintain secure
but relatively stable systems, without having to upgrade umpteen
packages a week.
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ith whole thing,
now is the time say as it can be removed with impunity.
I did consider adding the functions to eutils.eclass, but I prefer to
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On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 14:03:08 -0500
Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-11-21 at 17:59 +0100, Kevin F. Quinn wrote:
> > Am I correct in thinking that the ACCEPT_LICENSE behaviour will just
> > affect how portage calculates whether something can be insta
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you; that involves
a trust relationship between the dev and the maintainer. The amount of
work the dev has to do depends on how well the maintainer follows the
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On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 11:39:07 -0400
"Thomas Cort" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 10/4/06, Kevin F. Quinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 09:21:08 -0400
> > "Thomas Cort" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 11:44:07 -0400
"Thomas Cort" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 10/4/06, Kevin F. Quinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 09:41:45 -0400
> > Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > My view is that while the
On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 11:44:07 -0400
"Thomas Cort" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 10/4/06, Kevin F. Quinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 09:41:45 -0400
> > Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > My view is that while the
that only stuff used by large groups should be in
the tree. I think the criteria should hinge primarily on whether stuff
has an active Gentoo maintainer.
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essary: again, be more specific. What are the "unnecessary"
> > projects, and why?
>
> Projects that aren't needed to further Gentoo and are not helpful to
> users or developers.
Again, by "specific" I meant which projects, by name, do you think meet
those criteria. Explain why you consider those projects to be a
hindrance to users or developers.
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On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 14:18:54 +0100
Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 15:02:17 +0200 "Kevin F. Quinn"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | Yuck. Devs should be free to add whatever packages they like,
> | provided they're willing
be more specific. What are the "unnecessary"
projects, and why?
> - Project status reports once a month for every project
We've discussed this before. Project status reports make sense if
they're going to be read. Personally I think each project should
organise its own status reporting schedule.
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> again?
Plus the copies in /usr/share/doc.
> We already have an existing LICENSE keywording in the ebuilds,
> why not just focus on patching portage to allow a make.conf variable
> for allowed licenses and block based on that?
Sounds good enough to me. Perhaps two variables; ALLOW_
pell again and end up with a
confused dep tree.
Also, to my understanding, having configure automagically build support
for hspell if it's available on the system is not the way we're
supposed to handle such dependencies.
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If something is in an overlay,
presumably the contributor has write access to that overlay, and should
be the assignee of the bug.
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On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 17:54:33 -0600
Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Kevin F. Quinn wrote:
> > If you don't care whether a package is stable or not, just let the
> > arch team go ahead and do what they need to do to stabilise when
> > they wish to. The role o
d before. You can't expect
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ke this.
What I'm conerned about is packages that have no Gentoo maintainer,
something that should obviously never happen for packages in the
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