Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-09 Thread AllenJB
been no activity for 3 days. ...in which time the unofficial wiki got countless edits in many languages. And my server downloaded backups 3 times (because we have a public backup policy in place to ensure the content is never lost again - something some people seem to like ignoring (or are just ignorant of)). AllenJB

Re: [gentoo-dev] [Gentoo Phoenix] an official Gentoo wiki

2010-04-04 Thread AllenJB
On 04/04/10 23:45, Zeerak Mustafa Waseem wrote: > On Sun, Apr 04, 2010 at 04:13:19PM +0100, AllenJB wrote: >> The unofficial wiki may have been created because there wasn't an >> official one, but that doesn't mean it's any less of a community in its >> own rig

Re: [gentoo-dev] [Gentoo Phoenix] an official Gentoo wiki

2010-04-04 Thread AllenJB
re for user contributions, then I may consider moving my articles over, but until that time I currently intend to maintain them in place, with their complete history in tact. AllenJB

Re: [gentoo-dev] [Gentoo Phoenix] an official Gentoo wiki

2010-04-04 Thread AllenJB
ributed to (and certainly the ones I wrote from scratch) will suffer all the wrath and abuse I can bring to it. An official wiki should not be used to duplicate the existing unofficial wiki (and I don't believe this is the intent of the developers who want one). It should be used to provide additional documentation on top of that provided by the existing wiki. AllenJB

Re: [gentoo-dev] [Gentoo Phoenix] an official Gentoo wiki

2010-04-04 Thread AllenJB
current system doesn't seem to be working well, so something needs to change, and I believe that a system that allows more people to contribute more easily, using a syntax that's already widely used so is either already known or an easily transferable skill is not a bad place to start. AllenJB

Re: [gentoo-dev] [Gentoo Phoenix] an official Gentoo wiki

2010-04-03 Thread AllenJB
le. While this may bring some disadvantages (number of spam attempts (tho I'm nottotally convinced you'll get less than any other web form out there), etc), it also brings the advantages of being well developed with a wide variety of plugins, lots of wiki syntax guides / tutorials you can point users to and a wide userbase with existing knowledge of the syntax. AllenJB

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: "X" vs "gtk" USE flags

2010-02-08 Thread AllenJB
On 08/02/10 14:02, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 02/08/2010 03:41 PM, AllenJB wrote: >> On 08/02/10 12:32, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >>> On 02/08/2010 01:39 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: >>>> IMHO. USE="X" is for controlling X.org dependencies, not for avoiding

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: "X" vs "gtk" USE flags

2010-02-08 Thread AllenJB
7;t likely to pull in anything but X libraries, if you see "kde" you know it means "enable kde features" and isn't likely to pull in anything but kde libraries, and so on. AllenJB

Re: [gentoo-dev] "X" vs "gtk" USE flags

2010-02-08 Thread AllenJB
easily affect dependencies in other packages). It would also not be immediately clear which toolkits support has been added/removed under the proposed system (since a package would go from, for example, having use flags "gtk kde" to just "X"). Of course, even if your system was saner, the ultimate question is: Who's going to run through all the graphical packages and update all the use flags and dependencies? AllenJB

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Lastrite (part 1): KDE3-only applications that won't build when KDE4 is installed

2009-11-04 Thread AllenJB
ed packages in a manner that's clear, easy to use and maintain for both users and developers, with the added bonus of reducing disk usage and sync time for those who don't wish to use that set of packages. I fully welcome the way the sunsetting of KDE 3.5 is being done. It's clear and easy to follow. AllenJB

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Splitting desktop profile to KDE and GNOME

2009-10-26 Thread AllenJB
Samuli Suominen wrote: > AllenJB wrote: >> * Why is the developer profile even shown on "eselect profile"? Wouldn't >> it be better to keep "unsupported" profiles off this list. Surely Gentoo >> devs can cope with setting their profile manually in fa

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Splitting desktop profile to KDE and GNOME

2009-10-26 Thread AllenJB
Maciej Mrozowski wrote: > Hi there! > > Resulting from discussion during last Gentoo KDE team meeting taking place 22 > Oct 2009 at #gentoo-meetings (summary fill be available soon), having Gentoo > GNOME team representative, it's been decided to go ahead with splitting > desktop profile to DE-

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone interested in maintaining the Gentoo Handbooks?

2009-10-03 Thread AllenJB
Joshua Saddler wrote: > On Sat, 03 Oct 2009 15:54:31 +0100 > AllenJB wrote: > >> I have tried to bring up the issues on the docs team list but pretty >> much get shot down and told everything is fine and dandy. > > Going to have to call "bullshit" on thi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone interested in maintaining the Gentoo Handbooks?

2009-10-03 Thread AllenJB
Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: > On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 8:24 PM, AllenJB wrote: >> The situation with the Gentoo Handbook is quite frankly getting beyond a >> joke for those of us donating our time to help users. >> >> I have tried to bring up the issues on the docs team list

[gentoo-dev] Anyone interested in maintaining the Gentoo Handbooks?

2009-10-03 Thread AllenJB
ike wikis. Is it really satisfactory that the official install documentation results in a basically non-working install? AllenJB

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stabilization of Python 3.1

2009-09-19 Thread AllenJB
d correcting them for every package that needs python should be a requirement for stabilization. AllenJB

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stabilization of Python 3.1

2009-09-19 Thread AllenJB
x27;ve been done as soon as it was known portage didn't support python 3!) and perhaps add a block to eselect so that python-3.1 can't be selected as the system python interpreter until portage supports it. AllenJB

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Make 10.0 profiles EAPI-2 'compliant'

2009-08-21 Thread AllenJB
o be considered on some occasions - eg. in this case an EAPI-2.1 which is simply EAPI-2 with the "package.* as directory in profiles" feature included? If this is a matter of what the council has decided, would a simple solution be to have a motion for amendment / fast-track of EAPI2.1 (or alternative solution) brought up and voted on by the council? AllenJB

Re: [gentoo-dev] New 10.0 profiles are in repository

2009-08-07 Thread AllenJB
one of the most common problems new users had. I believe that if you want to successfully implement this idea, you will have to create a tool (or modify "eselect profile") to allow this to be done without exposing users to the raw paths. AllenJB

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2009.0 profiles

2009-08-01 Thread AllenJB
Ben de Groot wrote: > We've been living with the 2008.0 profiles for a while now. I think the > time has come for 2009.0 profiles so we can have some updates. Also, > there are plans for an anniversary release of our LiveCD, so I think the > time is right to start working on a new set of profiles.

Re: [gentoo-dev] About time to unify "cdda" and "cdaudio" USE flags and make the remaining one global?

2009-07-07 Thread AllenJB
Index Lookups. local:cdda:gnome-base/gvfs: Enables Compact Disc Digital Audio (standard audio CDs) support local:cdda:media-sound/aqualung: Enables libcdda cd audio playback support local:cdda:media-video/vlc: Enables audio CD and VCD playback support. So ultimately, this isn't even bike shedding in my opinion. There's only one color to paint with anyway. AllenJB

Re: [gentoo-dev] Exim and Sendmail need a maintainer

2009-07-02 Thread AllenJB
t be obvious to them!) More than 2 users might actually see it then =P AllenJB

[gentoo-dev] Please use "eselect news" items!

2009-06-25 Thread AllenJB
s, resulting in users who have their elog messages emailed to them receiving a very large number of emails all with the same content - I would also suggest news items in such cases in future. Thanks to all the developers who worked to bring us this long awaited feature - I think it's brilliant, so please use it! AllenJB

[gentoo-dev] Versioned use flags and preferencing (eg. qt3 / qt4 on same package)

2009-06-15 Thread AllenJB
? Where is this documented (both from a users point of view, and from a policy point of view)? If hplip the only package that can only use one of qt3/qt4 and as such that's why it's the only one with local use flag descriptions, or are there more which just haven't been documented? AllenJB

Re: [gentoo-dev] New app-eselect category?

2009-05-26 Thread AllenJB
convinced either is necessary at the current time (tho tags might make searching easier, in some ways). AllenJB

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC:sys-apps/portage @overlay atoms postfix support

2009-05-25 Thread AllenJB
different locations, is potentially confusing, even if not just plain silly. As a side note, I think I've read somewhere that it may in the future be possible to specify sets in package.* (which I assume would be done using the @set-name syntax), but can't remember where off-hand. T

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Support Everywhere

2009-05-20 Thread AllenJB
ers have within the Gentoo Development sphere? AllenJB

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Gentoo Support Everywhere

2009-05-19 Thread AllenJB
ing "it works for me" and post something that will definitely work for everyone please. AllenJB

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Support Everywhere

2009-05-19 Thread AllenJB
Could someone who CAN see the forum thread please post the content to the list so that everyone can see it please? (Alternatively, perhaps post how to get to it from forums.gentoo.org manually) AllenJB

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Can we stop wasting time and bandwidth? (was: The fallacies of GLEP55)

2009-05-16 Thread AllenJB
ttle further in the right direction. AllenJB

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Project proposal -- maintainer-wanted

2009-05-13 Thread AllenJB
;s too much of a catch-all). What about a forum setup that better resembles the project setup so that individual projects can more easily find queries that are likely to affect them? AllenJB

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring

2009-05-05 Thread AllenJB
ere's a good chance that it would improve contributions (on the basis that potential contributors are more likely to actually contribute if they can find what they want to work on easily). AllenJB

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Deprecating EAPI0

2009-03-21 Thread AllenJB
o expend effort within Gentoo. As such I would suggest that at most, EAPI deprecation only applies to new packages and version bumps. AllenJB

Re: [gentoo-dev] devs on IRC (was :Regen2 ( was QA Overlay Layout support ))

2009-03-13 Thread AllenJB
x27;t have time to follow everything) to look in and follow what the devs are doing more easily. I think that this would ultimately help make Gentoo development more visible and more accessible, ultimately leading to an increased conversion of users to contributors, if not users to devs. AllenJB

Re: [gentoo-dev] devs on IRC (was :Regen2 ( was QA Overlay Layout support ))

2009-03-11 Thread AllenJB
ich made itself very apparent when Gentoo Wiki went down last year (where virtually all the old content was recovered from google cache and mirrored, as well as being available 6 months later on archive.org). AllenJB

Re: [gentoo-dev] devs on IRC (was :Regen2 ( was QA Overlay Layout support ))

2009-03-10 Thread AllenJB
AllenJB wrote: Markos Chandras wrote: On Tuesday 10 March 2009 14:15:36 Thilo Bangert wrote: Bugs aren't a good way to keep in touch with developers, that's what irc is for. while i dont necessarily think, that bugzi is the best way to stay in contact with me, it surely is a bette

Re: [gentoo-dev] devs on IRC (was :Regen2 ( was QA Overlay Layout support ))

2009-03-10 Thread AllenJB
tly going on and what the plans for the future are. AllenJB

Re: [gentoo-dev] new categories: (was: Last Rites: games-puzzle/ksudoku)

2009-02-01 Thread AllenJB
y custom sets contents automatically) or just a package mask (in which case it's up to the user to do all those updates) AllenJB

Re: [gentoo-dev] PR Project Activity Issues

2009-01-27 Thread AllenJB
Donnie Berkholz wrote: On 21:30 Mon 26 Jan , AllenJB wrote: The Gentoo PR Project currently appears to be having difficulties with keeping up, both with the newsletters and announcements, and I believe this is currently reflecting badly on the project as a whole. It's easy to com

Re: [gentoo-dev] PR Project Activity Issues

2009-01-27 Thread AllenJB
Alec Warner wrote: On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 1:30 PM, AllenJB wrote: Hi all, The Gentoo PR Project currently appears to be having difficulties with keeping up, both with the newsletters and announcements, and I believe this is currently reflecting badly on the project as a whole. These issues

[gentoo-dev] PR Project Activity Issues

2009-01-26 Thread AllenJB
articles as a feature. AllenJB PS. This did start out as a submission for a council meeting agenda item, but I couldn't stop writing. PPS. To preempt the obvious suggestion: I do intend to become a developer, I just don't feel I have the time to commit right now. That'll hopefully

Re: [gentoo-dev] QEMU Sick!

2009-01-22 Thread AllenJB
hink it's ready for everyday use yet. I tried the 4.2 SVN versions recently and it still had many issues. Check DistroWatch what You done with Gentoo! In 2007 Yr. Gentoo was 7-th place, and now? Distrowatch ranks distros based on page views on its site. It's hardly a great way to rank distros. AllenJB

Re: [gentoo-dev] index2.xml: What needs to be done to get this live?

2009-01-18 Thread AllenJB
Donnie Berkholz wrote: On 20:49 Sun 18 Jan , AllenJB wrote: Hi all, What needs to be done to get https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=252157 and all the other changes implemented on index2.xml to go live? I have tried requesting information on the bugs, but this seems to have

Re: [gentoo-dev] index2.xml: What needs to be done to get this live?

2009-01-18 Thread AllenJB
Petteri Räty wrote: AllenJB wrote: Hi all, What needs to be done to get https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=252157 and all the other changes implemented on index2.xml to go live? I have tried requesting information on the bugs, but this seems to have got me nowhere. If there is still

[gentoo-dev] index2.xml: What needs to be done to get this live?

2009-01-18 Thread AllenJB
willing to look at any work that still needs to be done because I believe that getting these wonderful changes to the Gentoo website live is important to the project. AllenJB

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLI Officially Deprecated

2009-01-15 Thread AllenJB
e deps of bug #252157). I've tried posting on the relevant bugs to find out exactly what needs to be done, but no one seems to care, which is a real shame as the new index would be a vast improvement in my opinion. [0] https://bugs.gentoo.org/252157 AllenJB

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in profiles: package.mask

2009-01-12 Thread AllenJB
ers. This could be as simple as prominently posting documentation on the elog system and how to tailor it. Or it might involve posting more announcements to the Gentoo website (which would double up and make the project look more active than it currently does from its front page). AllenJB PS. I