2018-03-08 3:38 GMT+01:00 Benda Xu :
> Dear Rich,
>
> Rich Freeman writes:
>
> > Everybody I know has these sorts of complaints about language-based
> > PMs, whether they prefer Ubuntu, or Debian, or CentOS, or whatever.
> > Nobody wants random programs downloading random stuff and dropping
> > o
Hi Folks,
Michael Orlitzky writes:
> These other package managers don't solve any hard problems -- they're
> basically a fancy interface around wget and "git clone." Portage on the
> other hand has ~20 years of good ideas and hard work on the hard
> problems in package management. For example...
Dear Rich,
Rich Freeman writes:
> Everybody I know has these sorts of complaints about language-based
> PMs, whether they prefer Ubuntu, or Debian, or CentOS, or whatever.
> Nobody wants random programs downloading random stuff and dropping
> orphan files all over their filesystem with no way to
On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 3:55 PM, R0b0t1 wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 1:15 PM, Alec Warner wrote:
>>
>> Because containers are awesome and are way easier to use.
>>
>
> I think you missed my point: Why are they easier to use?
>
I suspect that he was equating "containers" with "Docker," which bo
On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 1:15 PM, Alec Warner wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 1:22 PM, R0b0t1 wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 11:52 AM, Alec Warner wrote:
>> > On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 11:51 AM, Michael Orlitzky
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On 03/07/2018 11:06 AM, anote...@teknik.io wrote:
>> >>
On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 3:12 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> On 03/07/2018 12:52 PM, Alec Warner wrote:
> >
> > I'm really not happy with the tone of this email, so I'm going to
> > comment on it a bit.
> >
>
> Ok, it would have benefited from a do-I-sound-like-a-dick proofread. I
> don't want to so
On 03/07/2018 12:52 PM, Alec Warner wrote:
>
> I'm really not happy with the tone of this email, so I'm going to
> comment on it a bit.
>
Ok, it would have benefited from a do-I-sound-like-a-dick proofread. I
don't want to sound discouraging because this is an area with lots of
room for improve
On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 1:22 PM, R0b0t1 wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 11:52 AM, Alec Warner wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 11:51 AM, Michael Orlitzky
> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 03/07/2018 11:06 AM, anote...@teknik.io wrote:
> >> > Why should portage download some outdated second copy of the
> >>
On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 12:52 PM, Alec Warner wrote:
>
> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Perl/g-cpan is a project is in a
> similar space and basically reads perl CPAN metadata to generate stub
> ebuilds.
> Portage tracks these stub ebuilds (and so for example, it tracks what these
> cpan pack
On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 11:52 AM, Alec Warner wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 11:51 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
>>
>> On 03/07/2018 11:06 AM, anote...@teknik.io wrote:
>> > Why should portage download some outdated second copy of the
>> > sources for 'bar', rebuild it, and scatter it around the fi
On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 11:51 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> On 03/07/2018 11:06 AM, anote...@teknik.io wrote:
> > Why should portage download some outdated second copy of the
> > sources for 'bar', rebuild it, and scatter it around the file system
> > where it cannot be used by other programs inst
On 03/07/2018 11:06 AM, anote...@teknik.io wrote:
> Why should portage download some outdated second copy of the
> sources for 'bar', rebuild it, and scatter it around the file system
> where it cannot be used by other programs installed by cabal?
These other package managers don't solve any hard
Hi all,
the next Council meeting will be on Sunday 2018-03-11, 18:00 UTC in the
#gentoo-council channel on Freenode.
We have a fairly short agenda this time:
1. Roll call
2. Bugs with council involvement:
- GLEP 68
[1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/649740
[2]
https://archives.gentoo.org
Having used Gentoo for a few years now, one thing that has been annoying
to me is the tremendous duplication of effort and uphill battle of
creating ebuilds (build recipes) for language-specific packages that
already have their own build systems.
For example, many languages such as Python (pip), N
# Michael Palimaka (07 Mar 2018)
# Depends on deprecated Qt 4. Dead upstream.
# Masked for removal in 30 days. Bug #649116.
media-video/qt-recordmydesktop
# Michael Palimaka (07 Mar 2018)
# Depends on deprecated Qt 4. Dead upstream.
# Masked for removal in 30 days. Bug #644424.
media-gfx/qosmic
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