Re: [gentoo-dev] NEWS item for games destabling

2017-11-27 Thread Alec Warner
On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 3:44 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 11/27/2017 03:37 PM, Arve Barsnes wrote: > > > > Sounds kind of weird? If he has keyworded the game package, shouldn't it > > just never install that version if it depends on an unstable package? > > That's right, but if there are two

Re: [gentoo-dev] NEWS item for games destabling

2017-11-27 Thread Arve Barsnes
On 27 November 2017 at 20:44, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 11/27/2017 03:37 PM, Arve Barsnes wrote: > > > > Sounds kind of weird? If he has keyworded the game package, shouldn't it > > just never install that version if it depends on an unstable package? > > That's right, but if there are two ava

Re: [gentoo-dev] NEWS item for games destabling

2017-11-27 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 27/11/17 20:44, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 11/27/2017 03:37 PM, Arve Barsnes wrote: >> Sounds kind of weird? If he has keyworded the game package, shouldn't it >> just never install that version if it depends on an unstable package? > That's right, but if there are two available ~arch versions

Re: [gentoo-dev] NEWS item for games destabling

2017-11-27 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 11/27/2017 03:37 PM, Arve Barsnes wrote: > > Sounds kind of weird? If he has keyworded the game package, shouldn't it > just never install that version if it depends on an unstable package? That's right, but if there are two available ~arch versions, one of which has all stable dependencies an

Re: [gentoo-dev] NEWS item for games destabling

2017-11-27 Thread Arve Barsnes
On 27 November 2017 at 20:34, Rich Freeman wrote: > To answer his question, there is not any way out-of-the-box to tell > portage to install the latest ~arch version of a package that has only > stable or already-accepted dependencies. Certainly it should be > possible to build such a feature, b

Re: [gentoo-dev] NEWS item for games destabling

2017-11-27 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 27/11/17 20:34, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 3:15 PM, M. J. Everitt wrote: >> On 27/11/17 18:44, Christopher Head wrote: >>> For those of us who run mostly stable systems, there is one question I >>> don’t know a good answer to. >>> >>> If I add a specific version of a game to

Re: [gentoo-dev] NEWS item for games destabling

2017-11-27 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 3:15 PM, M. J. Everitt wrote: > On 27/11/17 18:44, Christopher Head wrote: >> For those of us who run mostly stable systems, there is one question I don’t >> know a good answer to. >> >> If I add a specific version of a game to package.accept_keywords, I will get >> that

Re: [gentoo-dev] NEWS item for games destabling

2017-11-27 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 27/11/17 18:44, Christopher Head wrote: > For those of us who run mostly stable systems, there is one question I don’t > know a good answer to. > > If I add a specific version of a game to package.accept_keywords, I will get > that version forever. That’s not really what I want: I prefer to st

Re: [gentoo-dev] NEWS item for games destabling

2017-11-27 Thread Christopher Head
For those of us who run mostly stable systems, there is one question I don’t know a good answer to. If I add a specific version of a game to package.accept_keywords, I will get that version forever. That’s not really what I want: I prefer to stay up to date as new versions are packaged. If I a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC, PATCH] user.eclass: gracefully return when unprivileged

2017-11-27 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 6:46 AM, Aaron W. Swenson wrote: > On 2017-11-26 10:02, Benda Xu wrote: >> Hi Patrick, >> >> Patrick McLean writes: >> >> > I use portage as non-root all the time when developing and testing >> > ebuilds, via the "ebuild" command. >> >> The enewgroup and enewuser are used

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 1/2] glep-0042: Drop requirement for detached signatures.

2017-11-27 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Mon, 27 Nov 2017, Aaron W Swenson wrote: > This was deemed no longer necessary… Applied, thanks. pgpUVuOaSVc3v.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [PATCH 2/2] glep-0042: Update and clarify naming rules.

2017-11-27 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Mon, 27 Nov 2017, Aaron W Swenson wrote: > On 2017-11-27 10:54, Duncan wrote: >> While there is no hard restriction on the length of short-name, >> limiting it to 20 characters is strongly recommended. >> >> [...] > Does it matter if people notice the recommendation? Should it be its >

[gentoo-dev] Re: [PATCH 2/2] glep-0042: Update and clarify naming rules.

2017-11-27 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Mon, 27 Nov 2017, Duncan wrote: > Arguably bikeshedding but changing up the last sentence to read a > bit smoother (I skipped formatting)... > While there is no hard restriction on the length of short-name, > limiting it to 20 characters is strongly recommended. > (s/for/on/, reversing

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC, PATCH] user.eclass: gracefully return when unprivileged

2017-11-27 Thread Aaron W. Swenson
On 2017-11-26 10:02, Benda Xu wrote: > Hi Patrick, > > Patrick McLean writes: > > > I use portage as non-root all the time when developing and testing > > ebuilds, via the "ebuild" command. > > The enewgroup and enewuser are used in pkg_* functions, as documented in > user.eclass _assert_pkg_eb

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 1/2] glep-0042: Drop requirement for detached signatures.

2017-11-27 Thread Aaron W. Swenson
On 2017-11-27 00:13, Ulrich Müller wrote: > … > +.. Note:: A previous version of this GLEP had required that news items must > + be signed with a detached OpenPGP signature. This was no longer deemed > + necessary after moving news items to a Git repository with commit signing, > + and deploy

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [PATCH 2/2] glep-0042: Update and clarify naming rules.

2017-11-27 Thread Aaron W. Swenson
On 2017-11-27 10:54, Duncan wrote: > Ulrich Müller posted on Mon, 27 Nov 2017 00:30:49 +0100 as excerpted: > > > diff --git a/glep-0042.rst b/glep-0042.rst > > index 7726ea4..90ae0b2 100644 > > --- a/glep-0042.rst > > +++ b/glep-0042.rst > > @@ -179,7 +179,9 @@ form ``-mm-dd-short-name``, wher

[gentoo-dev] Re: [PATCH 2/2] glep-0042: Update and clarify naming rules.

2017-11-27 Thread Duncan
Ulrich Müller posted on Mon, 27 Nov 2017 00:30:49 +0100 as excerpted: > diff --git a/glep-0042.rst b/glep-0042.rst > index 7726ea4..90ae0b2 100644 > --- a/glep-0042.rst > +++ b/glep-0042.rst > @@ -179,7 +179,9 @@ form ``-mm-dd-short-name``, where ```` is the > year (e.g. ``2005``), > ``m

[gentoo-dev] [PATCH 2/2] glep-0042: Update and clarify naming rules.

2017-11-27 Thread Ulrich Müller
Update the GLEP from ISO 639 to IETF language tags (BCP 47), in order to make it consistent with usage in the L10N USE_EXPAND variable. This will make no difference for most common languages. Also there are currently no translations of news items at all. Add a note clarifying what "very short" mea

[gentoo-dev] [PATCH 0/2] Two updates for GLEP 42

2017-11-27 Thread Ulrich Müller
Here are two updates for GLEP 42, for review. Currently it is required that every news item is accompanied by a detached OpenPGP signature. To my knowledge, verification of these signatures was never implemented. With Git commit signing and after full-tree verification is implemented, these detach

[gentoo-dev] [PATCH 1/2] glep-0042: Drop requirement for detached signatures.

2017-11-27 Thread Ulrich Müller
--- glep-0042.rst | 18 +- 1 file changed, 9 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-) diff --git a/glep-0042.rst b/glep-0042.rst index c6b41e9..7726ea4 100644 --- a/glep-0042.rst +++ b/glep-0042.rst @@ -9,7 +9,7 @@ Type: Standards Track Status: Final Version: 3 Created: 2005-10-31 -Last-M