Re: [gentoo-dev] Allow variable refs in HOMEPAGE

2017-08-03 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Thu, 3 Aug 2017, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 08/03/2017 06:33 PM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >> It did, even back in 2004: >> https://sources.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/gentoo/xml/htdocs/proj/en/devrel/handbook/hb-guide-ebuild.xml?hideattic=0&revision=1.10&view=markup#l534 > You got me, b

Re: [gentoo-dev] Allow variable refs in HOMEPAGE

2017-08-03 Thread Michał Górny
On czw, 2017-08-03 at 23:24 -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 08/03/2017 06:33 PM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > > > > > > On Thu, 3 Aug 2017, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > > The developer handbook that I just said didn't mention variables in > > > HOMEPAGE at all. > > > > It did, even back in 2004: >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Allow variable refs in HOMEPAGE

2017-08-03 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 08/03/2017 06:33 PM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >> On Thu, 3 Aug 2017, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > >> The developer handbook that I just said didn't mention variables in >> HOMEPAGE at all. > > It did, even back in 2004: > https://sources.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/gentoo/xml/htdocs/proj/en/de

Re: [gentoo-dev] Allow variable refs in HOMEPAGE

2017-08-03 Thread Sam Jorna
On Thu, Aug 03, 2017 at 05:54:17PM +0200, Michał Górny wrote: > d. no random ${PN} all over the install phase. I think some qualification of "random ${PN} all over the install phase" needs to be made - how random is random, are there any allowed instances? AFAIK with the exception of some system-

Re: [gentoo-dev] Allow variable refs in HOMEPAGE

2017-08-03 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Thu, 3 Aug 2017, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 08/03/2017 03:39 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: >> The developer handbook was also a "policy" manual of sorts when it >> existed. > The developer handbook that I just said didn't mention variables in > HOMEPAGE at all. It did, even back in 2004: ht

Re: [gentoo-dev] Allow variable refs in HOMEPAGE

2017-08-03 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 11:54 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > On czw, 2017-08-03 at 11:33 -0400, Mike Gilbert wrote: >> I would like to remove the ban on variable references in the HOMEPAGE >> variable in ebuilds. >> >> As I understand it, this ban was put in place so that people can >> easily copy/paste

Re: [gentoo-dev] Allow variable refs in HOMEPAGE

2017-08-03 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 3:56 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 08/03/2017 03:39 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: >>> >>> (The old handbook never mentioned variables, from what I can see.) >>> >> >> The developer handbook was also a "policy" manual of sorts when it existed. > > The developer handbook that I j

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: sys-kernel/openvz-sources, sys-apps/yum, sys-boot/plymouth, media-libs/silgraphite and revdeps

2017-08-03 Thread Michał Górny
# Michał Górny (04 Aug 2017) # Obsolete. Replaced by media-gfx/graphite2. No longer used # by anything. Removal in 30 days. Bug #594314. media-libs/silgraphite # Michał Górny (04 Aug 2017) # Dependency of dev-texlive/texlive-basic-2012 no longer needed for # the current versions. Removal in 14 d

Re: [gentoo-dev] Allow variable refs in HOMEPAGE

2017-08-03 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 08/03/2017 03:39 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: >> >> (The old handbook never mentioned variables, from what I can see.) >> > > The developer handbook was also a "policy" manual of sorts when it existed. The developer handbook that I just said didn't mention variables in HOMEPAGE at all.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Allow variable refs in HOMEPAGE

2017-08-03 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 3:12 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 08/03/2017 02:57 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: >> >> It's in the devmanual, which imposes gentoo-specific policy on top of PMS. >> > > It would be nice if that were true, but there's a lot of junk and/or > personal preference documented in the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Allow variable refs in HOMEPAGE

2017-08-03 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Thu, 3 Aug 2017, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > [...] Portage Manager Specification [...] D'oh! pgp6Uct6pop5G.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Allow variable refs in HOMEPAGE

2017-08-03 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Thu, 3 Aug 2017, Mike Gilbert wrote: > I would like to remove the ban on variable references in the > HOMEPAGE variable in ebuilds. I think this is not a good idea. For example, it would break browse-url-at-point (C-u u .) from within Emacs. > [...] > Allowing variables in HOMEPAGE wou

Re: [gentoo-dev] Allow variable refs in HOMEPAGE

2017-08-03 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 08/03/2017 02:57 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > > It's in the devmanual, which imposes gentoo-specific policy on top of PMS. > It would be nice if that were true, but there's a lot of junk and/or personal preference documented in the devmanual, and a lot of actual-policy that's still missing becau

Re: [gentoo-dev] Allow variable refs in HOMEPAGE

2017-08-03 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 2:21 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 08/03/2017 11:33 AM, Mike Gilbert wrote: >> I would like to remove the ban on variable references in the HOMEPAGE >> variable in ebuilds. >> > > What ban are you referring to? The Portage Manager Specification doesn't > say anything of t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Allow variable refs in HOMEPAGE

2017-08-03 Thread Michał Górny
On czw, 2017-08-03 at 14:21 -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 08/03/2017 11:33 AM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > > I would like to remove the ban on variable references in the HOMEPAGE > > variable in ebuilds. > > > > What ban are you referring to? The Portage Manager Specification doesn't > say anythi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Allow variable refs in HOMEPAGE

2017-08-03 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 08/03/2017 11:33 AM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > I would like to remove the ban on variable references in the HOMEPAGE > variable in ebuilds. > What ban are you referring to? The Portage Manager Specification doesn't say anything of the sort. Seriously though, whatever sort of tricks your opponents

Re: [gentoo-dev] Allow variable refs in HOMEPAGE

2017-08-03 Thread Jonas Stein
Hi Mike, > I would like to remove the ban on variable references in the HOMEPAGE > variable in ebuilds. > > As I understand it, this ban was put in place so that people can > easily copy/paste from an ebuild to a web browser. It made it also possible to grep through the packages and find thousan

Re: [gentoo-dev] Allow variable refs in HOMEPAGE

2017-08-03 Thread Michał Górny
On czw, 2017-08-03 at 11:33 -0400, Mike Gilbert wrote: > I would like to remove the ban on variable references in the HOMEPAGE > variable in ebuilds. > > As I understand it, this ban was put in place so that people can > easily copy/paste from an ebuild to a web browser. > > If people want to cop

[gentoo-dev] Allow variable refs in HOMEPAGE

2017-08-03 Thread Mike Gilbert
I would like to remove the ban on variable references in the HOMEPAGE variable in ebuilds. As I understand it, this ban was put in place so that people can easily copy/paste from an ebuild to a web browser. If people want to copy/paste the URL, they can easily query the final value using the port

[gentoo-dev] Re: New SYMLINK_LIB=no migration tool for review

2017-08-03 Thread Martin Vaeth
Michał Górny wrote: > > I have been running such a layout for over a year. [...] Thanks for clarifying that this already was discussed. Obviously, I was not aware about this discussion, and perhaps I was not the only one. > instead of waking up last-minute to redesign [...] Pointing me to the d

Re: [gentoo-dev] can't gpg sign with repoman, but can with git

2017-08-03 Thread Paweł Hajdan , Jr .
On 20/07/2017 11:38, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > On 07/19/2017 09:24 PM, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote: >> * 4 files being committed... >> error: gpg failed to sign the data >> fatal: failed to write commit object >> !!! Exiting on git (shell) error code: 128 > > you can increase gpg-agent logging ve

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New SYMLINK_LIB=no migration tool for review

2017-08-03 Thread Michał Górny
On czw, 2017-08-03 at 07:50 +, Martin Vaeth wrote: > Mike Gilbert wrote: > > Debian puts 64-bit libs in /lib/(host) > > Yes, this is somewhat weird: > They have /lib/i386-linux-gnu/ and /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ > but anyway they use /lib32 instead of e.g. /lib/i686-linux-gnu/ > Their reasons fo

[gentoo-dev] Re: New SYMLINK_LIB=no migration tool for review

2017-08-03 Thread Martin Vaeth
Mike Gilbert wrote: > Debian puts 64-bit libs in /lib/(host) Yes, this is somewhat weird: They have /lib/i386-linux-gnu/ and /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ but anyway they use /lib32 instead of e.g. /lib/i686-linux-gnu/ Their reasons for this are mysterious to me. > Migrating Gentoo to a "multiarch" con

[gentoo-dev] Re: New SYMLINK_LIB=no migration tool for review

2017-08-03 Thread Martin Vaeth
Michał Górny wrote: > > 'No mainstream' as you claim it doesn't mean it's fine to invent yet > another completely incompatible solution. As I understand, the compatibility with Debian might be increased (keeping /lib32), at the cost of slightly decreasing the compatibility with Red Hat (concernin