[gentoo-dev] package up for grabs: mail-filter/spambayes

2017-07-10 Thread Thomas - LordVan - Raschbacher
Hi. I decided to either give up maintainership of spambayes (not that there were any releases in the last 5+ years anyway). Anyone interested? if not I'll change it to maintainer-needed (or maybe just treeclean it .. not sure yet if anyone at all still cares - as far as I could see no packages de

Re: [gentoo-dev] stabilization candidates, July 2017

2017-07-10 Thread Hans de Graaff
On Mon, 2017-07-10 at 10:41 +0200, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote: > Hey folks, > > If you'd like to help Gentoo stable be more up to date, please read > on. > > See > 9.txt> > for potential stabilization candidates (over 1000 of th

Re: [gentoo-dev] About adding a *warning* to remind maintainers to check for new PYTHON_COMPAT values

2017-07-10 Thread Brian Dolbec
On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 15:41:04 +0200 Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > On 07/10/2017 03:35 PM, Kent Fredric wrote: > > On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 13:43:43 +0200 > > Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > >> Yes, but it's similar as the cases when we need to fix our packages > >> to work with a newer library they depen

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets vs Meta ebuilds

2017-07-10 Thread Walter Dnes
I have a script I've written for my own use. It's not 100% polished, but it does the job for me. My "autodepclean" script runs "emerge --pretend --depclean", and reformats the output into another script, named "cleanscript", which contains a bunch of lines like... emerge --depclean --verbose =

Re: [gentoo-dev] Native vs Scripting language for portage speed concerns was -> Sets vs Meta ebuilds

2017-07-10 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 9:29 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > > I am aware in a way. Depends on how implemented. This has to hit > package.env files. But what you see below comes from a dependency list. > I have packages with even more deps. > If you want to cope with poor package maintenance

Re: [gentoo-dev] Native vs Scripting language for portage speed concerns was -> Sets vs Meta ebuilds

2017-07-10 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 02:23:56 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 18:14:23 -0700 > Raymond Jennings wrote: > > If I may ask, does anyone have any profiling information one way or > > the other to shed light on the situation? There are profilers for python. Python devs can commen

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets vs Meta ebuilds

2017-07-10 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 02:09:12 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 00:24:10 +0200 > Michał Górny wrote: > > William, I'm not sure if you're aware of how package managers work > > but checking reverse dependencies of a package takes significant > > amount of time. Changing -C to do t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Native vs Scripting language for portage speed concerns was -> Sets vs Meta ebuilds

2017-07-10 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 20:12:28 -0500 R0b0t1 wrote: > On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 6:56 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. > wrote: >> > > IMHO anyone complaining about time taking for dependency resolution > > etc. They should spend THEIR time writing stuff in a real native > > language for speed. > > > > The

Re: [gentoo-dev] Native vs Scripting language for portage speed concerns was -> Sets vs Meta ebuilds

2017-07-10 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 18:14:23 -0700 Raymond Jennings wrote: > If I may ask, does anyone have any profiling information one way or > the other to shed light on the situation? Paludis does complete dependency and unused package tracking for everything by default. Any performance difficulties are imp

Re: [gentoo-dev] Native vs Scripting language for portage speed concerns was -> Sets vs Meta ebuilds

2017-07-10 Thread Raymond Jennings
If I may ask, does anyone have any profiling information one way or the other to shed light on the situation? On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 6:12 PM, R0b0t1 wrote: > On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 6:56 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. > wrote: > > On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 17:47:45 -0500 > > Gordon Pettey wrote: > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Native vs Scripting language for portage speed concerns was -> Sets vs Meta ebuilds

2017-07-10 Thread R0b0t1
On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 6:56 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 17:47:45 -0500 > Gordon Pettey wrote: > >> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 5:24 PM, Michał Górny >> wrote: >> >> > On pon, 2017-07-10 at 17:40 -0400, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: >> > > Stop getting lost in the weeds!!

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets vs Meta ebuilds

2017-07-10 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 17:21:42 -0400 Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > On 10/07/17 04:47 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > > On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 15:36:11 -0500 > > Ben Kohler wrote: > >> > >> If you want dependencies checked, use the correct option which > >> checks them. This takes significantly long

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets vs Meta ebuilds

2017-07-10 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 00:24:10 +0200 Michał Górny wrote: > William, I'm not sure if you're aware of how package managers work but > checking reverse dependencies of a package takes significant amount of > time. Changing -C to do that would be a serious performance > regression. Which would result in

Re: [gentoo-dev] taking a break from arches stabilization

2017-07-10 Thread Aaron Bauman
On Monday, July 10, 2017 1:22:20 PM EDT Agostino Sarubbo wrote: > Hi all. > > every time that I attach my tmux session to see what happens on irc, I > always see the same discussion about the 'minor' arches status. > Since I joined gentoo(2011) I worked on all arches except hppa, I put more > effo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Native vs Scripting language for portage speed concerns was -> Sets vs Meta ebuilds

2017-07-10 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 17:47:45 -0500 Gordon Pettey wrote: > On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 5:24 PM, Michał Górny > wrote: > > > On pon, 2017-07-10 at 17:40 -0400, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > > > Stop getting lost in the weeds > > > You all are making this about -c vs -C. I am not talking about >

Re: [gentoo-dev] taking a break from arches stabilization

2017-07-10 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 16:27:54 -0400 Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 4:05 PM, M. J. Everitt wrote: > > This is why stabilisation, if not for individual package maintainers on > > amd64, has become a joke, save for Ago's efforts, and recent efforts by > > kensington to streamline the ef

Re: [gentoo-dev] Auto adding packages to world was -> Sets vs Meta ebuilds

2017-07-10 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 19:22:47 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." wrote: > > That part does not require it to resolve deps. Just check world file, > assuming its correct. Though could be thrown off if say gcc, or > another was in the world file. I think the profile or set would catch > that as it does n

Re: [gentoo-dev] taking a break from arches stabilization

2017-07-10 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 22:17:34 +0200 Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > On 07/10/2017 10:02 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 3:57 PM, Andrew Savchenko > > wrote: > >> > >> On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 13:49:40 -0400 Rich Freeman wrote: > >> > >>> In the case of amd64 we already > >>> encourag

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets vs Meta ebuilds

2017-07-10 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 17:08:54 -0500 Ben Kohler wrote: > On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 4:42 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. > wrote: > > > > > If people understood, then saying use -c or -C makes no sense. It > > does not address the lack of output from either I am talking about. > > > > -- > > William L. T

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets vs Meta ebuilds

2017-07-10 Thread Michał Górny
On pon, 2017-07-10 at 17:47 -0500, Gordon Pettey wrote: > On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 5:24 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > > > On pon, 2017-07-10 at 17:40 -0400, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > > > Stop getting lost in the weeds > > > You all are making this about -c vs -C. I am not talking about that!

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets vs Meta ebuilds

2017-07-10 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 5:24 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > On pon, 2017-07-10 at 17:40 -0400, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > > Stop getting lost in the weeds > > You all are making this about -c vs -C. I am not talking about that! > > > > LET ME CLARIFY > > > > When using -C, portage SHOULD

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets vs Meta ebuilds

2017-07-10 Thread Michał Górny
On pon, 2017-07-10 at 17:40 -0400, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > Stop getting lost in the weeds > You all are making this about -c vs -C. I am not talking about that! > > LET ME CLARIFY > > When using -C, portage SHOULD warn for dependencies like it does for > profile and set packages,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets vs Meta ebuilds

2017-07-10 Thread Ben Kohler
On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 4:42 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > > If people understood, then saying use -c or -C makes no sense. It does > not address the lack of output from either I am talking about. > > -- > William L. Thomson Jr. > I really thought I understood you in that you wanted true re

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets vs Meta ebuilds

2017-07-10 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 16:30:07 -0400 Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 4:27 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. > wrote: > > On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 15:55:47 -0400 > > Rich Freeman wrote: > > > >> > >> The --unmerge option is there to let people shoot themselves in the > >> feet if they know wha

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets vs Meta ebuilds

2017-07-10 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
Stop getting lost in the weeds You all are making this about -c vs -C. I am not talking about that! LET ME CLARIFY When using -C, portage SHOULD warn for dependencies like it does for profile and set packages, PERIOD. NOTHING to do with -c vs -C. When using -c the output should say in la

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets vs Meta ebuilds

2017-07-10 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
On 10/07/17 04:47 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 15:36:11 -0500 > Ben Kohler wrote: >> >> If you want dependencies checked, use the correct option which checks >> them. This takes significantly longer than -C, as it's significantly >> more complex to check for. >> >> As f

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets vs Meta ebuilds

2017-07-10 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 4:47 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 15:36:11 -0500 > Ben Kohler wrote: >> >> If you want dependencies checked, use the correct option which checks >> them. This takes significantly longer than -C, as it's significantly >> more complex to check for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets vs Meta ebuilds

2017-07-10 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 15:36:11 -0500 Ben Kohler wrote: > > If you want dependencies checked, use the correct option which checks > them. This takes significantly longer than -C, as it's significantly > more complex to check for. > > As far as I can tell, you are literally asking for -C to behave l

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets vs Meta ebuilds

2017-07-10 Thread Ben Kohler
On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 3:27 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > > > Not sure why anyone would have objection to such a warning like exists > for other things. Or providing more information to the user as to why a > package was not removed, or should not be removed. > > -- > William L. Thomson Jr

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets vs Meta ebuilds

2017-07-10 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 4:27 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 15:55:47 -0400 > Rich Freeman wrote: > >> >> The --unmerge option is there to let people shoot themselves in the >> feet if they know what they're doing. > > Not sure why anyone would have objection to such a war

Re: [gentoo-dev] taking a break from arches stabilization

2017-07-10 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 4:05 PM, M. J. Everitt wrote: > > I dunno where you've been lately, Rich, but for most devs, would-be > devs, and observers .. there -are- no arch teams left .. just a few Arch > devs, or arch 'people' .. Obviously. I was describing how the arch team process worked when t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets vs Meta ebuilds

2017-07-10 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 15:55:47 -0400 Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 3:45 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. > wrote: > > On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 14:39:00 -0500 > > Ben Kohler wrote: > >> > >> > You aren't taking the time to read your own emerge output. > > > > It always says that same ge

Re: [gentoo-dev] taking a break from arches stabilization

2017-07-10 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
On 07/10/2017 10:02 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 3:57 PM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: >> >> On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 13:49:40 -0400 Rich Freeman wrote: >> >>> In the case of amd64 we already >>> encourage individual package maintainers to stabilize their own >>> packages >> >> Huh? Hav

Re: [gentoo-dev] taking a break from arches stabilization

2017-07-10 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 10/07/17 20:53, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 3:09 PM, Matt Turner wrote: >> For what it's worth, Jack Morgan was recently getting his sparc and >> ia64 systems back up, but then decided to retire instead when he saw >> all of the discussions about dropping the architectures he

Re: [gentoo-dev] taking a break from arches stabilization

2017-07-10 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 3:57 PM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > > On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 13:49:40 -0400 Rich Freeman wrote: > >> In the case of amd64 we already >> encourage individual package maintainers to stabilize their own >> packages > > Huh? Have our rules changed? As per devmanual[1] and GLEP 40[2

Re: [gentoo-dev] taking a break from arches stabilization

2017-07-10 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hi, On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 13:49:40 -0400 Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 1:22 PM, Agostino Sarubbo wrote: > > > > Now, since I work on these arches just to help, i.e. I don't have any > > business > > and I do non have any installation of those arches and the work I'm doing is > > no

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets vs Meta ebuilds

2017-07-10 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 3:45 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 14:39:00 -0500 > Ben Kohler wrote: >> >> > You aren't taking the time to read your own emerge output. > > It always says that same generic message. If that is the case, then why > even have that option? The --un

Re: [gentoo-dev] taking a break from arches stabilization

2017-07-10 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 3:09 PM, Matt Turner wrote: > > For what it's worth, Jack Morgan was recently getting his sparc and > ia64 systems back up, but then decided to retire instead when he saw > all of the discussions about dropping the architectures he cares > about. > Honestly, I don't really

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets vs Meta ebuilds

2017-07-10 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 14:48:23 -0500 Ben Kohler wrote: > > > > > > - The -c option should say why it will not remove. > > > > > > -- > > William L. Thomson Jr. > > > It does, if you use the --verbose flag. This is mentioned in your > emerge output a few times. It just shows the dep chain, not a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets vs Meta ebuilds

2017-07-10 Thread Ben Kohler
> > > - The -c option should say why it will not remove. > > > -- > William L. Thomson Jr. > It does, if you use the --verbose flag. This is mentioned in your emerge output a few times. -Ben

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets vs Meta ebuilds

2017-07-10 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 14:39:00 -0500 Ben Kohler wrote: > > > You aren't taking the time to read your own emerge output. It always says that same generic message. If that is the case, then why even have that option? Why not default to that all the time? Why did someone give that option + warning vs

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets vs Meta ebuilds

2017-07-10 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 15:36:16 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." wrote: > > !!! 'sys-devel/gcc' is part of your system profile. > !!! Unmerging it may be damaging to your system. When un-merging a package from a set, You get a similar warning. I think this warning should also be generated for any pack

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets vs Meta ebuilds

2017-07-10 Thread Ben Kohler
On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 2:36 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > ... > Calculating dependencies... done! > >>> No packages selected for removal by depclean > >>> To see reverse dependencies, use --verbose > Packages installed: 1779 > Packages in world:194 > ... > # emerge -pC gcc > * This

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets vs Meta ebuilds

2017-07-10 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 14:28:29 -0500 Ben Kohler wrote: > > Use -c rather than -C, like grknight suggested, and it will. It does not remove, but does not say why either. Which a user may likely proceed with using -C, as -c had no effect nor did it say why it took no action. # emerge -pc tomcat-ser

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets vs Meta ebuilds

2017-07-10 Thread Ben Kohler
On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 2:25 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 15:15:35 -0400 > "William L. Thomson Jr." wrote: > > > # emerge -pC tomcat-servlet-api > > * This action can remove important packages! In order to be safer, > > use > > * `emerge -pv --depclean ` to check for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets vs Meta ebuilds

2017-07-10 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 15:15:35 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." wrote: > # emerge -pC tomcat-servlet-api > * This action can remove important packages! In order to be safer, > use > * `emerge -pv --depclean ` to check for reverse dependencies >before > * removing packages. Rather than a messa

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets vs Meta ebuilds

2017-07-10 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 15:07:37 -0400 Brian Evans wrote: > On 7/10/2017 2:59 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > > On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 00:43:11 -0400 > > "William L. Thomson Jr." wrote: > > I think portage should also warn on removing packages that came in > > from another. If you are removing any

Re: [gentoo-dev] taking a break from arches stabilization

2017-07-10 Thread Matt Turner
On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 10:22 AM, Agostino Sarubbo wrote: > Hi all. > > every time that I attach my tmux session to see what happens on irc, I always > see the same discussion about the 'minor' arches status. > Since I joined gentoo(2011) I worked on all arches except hppa, I put more > effort in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets vs Meta ebuilds

2017-07-10 Thread Brian Evans
On 7/10/2017 2:59 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 00:43:11 -0400 > "William L. Thomson Jr." wrote: > I think portage should also warn on removing packages that came in from > another. If you are removing any dependency of another package. > > Portage will refuse to remov

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets vs Meta ebuilds

2017-07-10 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 00:43:11 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." wrote: > On Sun, 9 Jul 2017 21:37:11 -0400 > "Walter Dnes" wrote: > > > > "Fat-Finger" does happen once in while. Removing the risk of it > > happening in the first place is a lot more robust/bulletproof. > > There is nothing in p

Re: [gentoo-dev] taking a break from arches stabilization

2017-07-10 Thread Mike Pagano
On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 07:22:20PM +0200, Agostino Sarubbo wrote: > Hi all. > > every time that I attach my tmux session to see what happens on irc, I always > see the same discussion about the 'minor' arches status. > Since I joined gentoo(2011) I worked on all arches except hppa, I put more >

Re: [gentoo-dev] taking a break from arches stabilization

2017-07-10 Thread Jonas Stein
Hi Agostino, at first I want to thank you for the many contributions. There should be a "thank you" parameter in emerge for every installed package. It would be so motivating to see that many user are glad about a special package. One gets rarely feedback. I understand your decision and perhaps i

Re: [gentoo-dev] taking a break from arches stabilization

2017-07-10 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 1:22 PM, Agostino Sarubbo wrote: > > Now, since I work on these arches just to help, i.e. I don't have any business > and I do non have any installation of those arches and the work I'm doing is > not appreciated at all I decided to stop for now. I wouldn't say that your w

Re: [gentoo-dev] About adding a *warning* to remind maintainers to check for new PYTHON_COMPAT values

2017-07-10 Thread Kent Fredric
On 11 Jul 2017 01:41, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > > On 07/10/2017 03:35 PM, Kent Fredric wrote: > > On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 13:43:43 +0200 > > Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > >> Yes, but it's similar as the cases when we need to fix our packages > >> to work with a newer library they depend on. In

Re: [gentoo-dev] taking a break from arches stabilization

2017-07-10 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 19:22:20 +0200 Agostino Sarubbo wrote: > Hi all. > > every time that I attach my tmux session to see what happens on irc, > I always see the same discussion about the 'minor' arches status. > Since I joined gentoo(2011) I worked on all arches except hppa, I put > more effort

Re: [gentoo-dev] About adding a *warning* to remind maintainers to check for new PYTHON_COMPAT values

2017-07-10 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 11:55:30 -0500 William Hubbs wrote: > On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 01:04:10PM +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > Hello > > > > Looking to the list of packages still not supporting python 3.5: > > https://qa-reports.gentoo.org/output/gpyutils/34-to-35.txt > > > > and considering that w

[gentoo-dev] taking a break from arches stabilization

2017-07-10 Thread Agostino Sarubbo
Hi all. every time that I attach my tmux session to see what happens on irc, I always see the same discussion about the 'minor' arches status. Since I joined gentoo(2011) I worked on all arches except hppa, I put more effort in amd64 and less where I saw other people work on it (arm,alpha) But e

Re: [gentoo-dev] About adding a *warning* to remind maintainers to check for new PYTHON_COMPAT values

2017-07-10 Thread William Hubbs
On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 01:04:10PM +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote: > Hello > > Looking to the list of packages still not supporting python 3.5: > https://qa-reports.gentoo.org/output/gpyutils/34-to-35.txt > > and considering that we should even start testing python 3.6, I think it would > be nice if we

Re: [gentoo-dev] About adding a *warning* to remind maintainers to check for new PYTHON_COMPAT values

2017-07-10 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 10/07/17 12:43, Pacho Ramos wrote: > El lun, 10-07-2017 a las 13:12 +0200, Kristian Fiskerstrand escribió: >> On 07/10/2017 01:04 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: >>> Any issues on trying to go further into implementing this warning? >> Not an issue per se, but it should be pointed out that python 3.5 on

[gentoo-dev] Re: stabilization candidates, July 2017

2017-07-10 Thread Michael Palimaka
On 07/10/2017 06:41 PM, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote: > Hey folks, > > If you'd like to help Gentoo stable be more up to date, please read on. > > See > > for potential stabilization candidates (over 1000 of them). > > These

[gentoo-dev] Re: About adding a *warning* to remind maintainers to check for new PYTHON_COMPAT values

2017-07-10 Thread Michael Palimaka
On 07/10/2017 11:35 PM, Kent Fredric wrote: > On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 13:43:43 +0200 > Pacho Ramos wrote: > >> Yes, but it's similar as the cases when we need to fix our packages >> to work with a newer library they depend on. In this case it would be >> even easier as we can have multiple python ver

Re: [gentoo-dev] About adding a *warning* to remind maintainers to check for new PYTHON_COMPAT values

2017-07-10 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 7:04 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > Looking to the list of packages still not supporting python 3.5: > https://qa-reports.gentoo.org/output/gpyutils/34-to-35.txt > I realize a warning will address most of the issue, but when creating lists like these it can be helpful to stick

Re: [gentoo-dev] About adding a *warning* to remind maintainers to check for new PYTHON_COMPAT values

2017-07-10 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
On 07/10/2017 03:35 PM, Kent Fredric wrote: > On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 13:43:43 +0200 > Pacho Ramos wrote: > >> Yes, but it's similar as the cases when we need to fix our packages >> to work with a newer library they depend on. In this case it would be >> even easier as we can have multiple python ver

Re: [gentoo-dev] About adding a *warning* to remind maintainers to check for new PYTHON_COMPAT values

2017-07-10 Thread Kent Fredric
On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 13:43:43 +0200 Pacho Ramos wrote: > Yes, but it's similar as the cases when we need to fix our packages > to work with a newer library they depend on. In this case it would be > even easier as we can have multiple python versions and switch to the > newer one for testing while

Re: [gentoo-dev] stabilization candidates, July 2017

2017-07-10 Thread Kent Fredric
On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 10:41:11 +0200 "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." wrote: > Feedback about next steps would be welcome. > > Paweł I'd say hold of on anything Perlish unless strictly necessary. Trying to keep the stable requests down to only what is *needed* for now prioritizing for a future where Perl 5.26

Re: [gentoo-dev] About adding a *warning* to remind maintainers to check for new PYTHON_COMPAT values

2017-07-10 Thread Pacho Ramos
El lun, 10-07-2017 a las 13:12 +0200, Kristian Fiskerstrand escribió: > On 07/10/2017 01:04 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > Any issues on trying to go further into implementing this warning?  > > Not an issue per se, but it should be pointed out that python 3.5 only > has a testing visibility, so this

Re: [gentoo-dev] About adding a *warning* to remind maintainers to check for new PYTHON_COMPAT values

2017-07-10 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
On 07/10/2017 01:04 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > Any issues on trying to go further into implementing this warning? Not an issue per se, but it should be pointed out that python 3.5 only has a testing visibility, so this at the very least requires maintainers to potentially have a separate testing ch

[gentoo-dev] About adding a *warning* to remind maintainers to check for new PYTHON_COMPAT values

2017-07-10 Thread Pacho Ramos
Hello Looking to the list of packages still not supporting python 3.5: https://qa-reports.gentoo.org/output/gpyutils/34-to-35.txt and considering that we should even start testing python 3.6, I think it would be nice if we could make portage to warn when PYTHON_COMPAT value is not updated. It's r

Re: [gentoo-dev] stabilization candidates, July 2017

2017-07-10 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 10/07/17 09:41, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote: > Hey folks, > > If you'd like to help Gentoo stable be more up to date, please read on. > > See > > for potential stabilization candidates (over 1000 of them). > > These are auto

Re: [gentoo-dev] stabilization candidates, July 2017

2017-07-10 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 10 lipca 2017 10:41:11 CEST, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." napisał(a): >Hey folks, > >If you'd like to help Gentoo stable be more up to date, please read on. > >See > >for potential stabilization candidates (over 1000 of them).

[gentoo-dev] stabilization candidates, July 2017

2017-07-10 Thread Paweł Hajdan , Jr .
Hey folks, If you'd like to help Gentoo stable be more up to date, please read on. See for potential stabilization candidates (over 1000 of them). These are automatically checked to pass repoman, and bugzilla is also che