On Wed, 2017-05-10 at 22:01 -0700, Yury German wrote:
>
> On 5/10/17 12:40 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote:
> > On 5/10/17 3:29 PM, David Seifert wrote:
> > So let's make sure we're on the same page -- here's my
> > understanding.
> >
> > 1) For @system packages, we will have KEYWORDS="ppc" for the s
On 5/10/17 12:40 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote:
> On 5/10/17 3:29 PM, David Seifert wrote:
> So let's make sure we're on the same page -- here's my understanding.
>
> 1) For @system packages, we will have KEYWORDS="ppc" for the stable
> versions and KEYWORDS="~ppc" for the rest.
So is this only
Hi Gentoo devs,
I'd like to discuss one thing I've concernted for a long time already.
Recently I've done some `dev-python` ebuild. And as most Python packages
it also uses `dev-python/sphinx` to produce documentation. I want to note
that my primary (and default) Python version is 3.5 and I have s
On śro, 2017-05-10 at 14:15 -0700, Patrick McLean wrote:
> On Wed, 10 May 2017 20:53:31 +0200
> Michał Górny wrote:
>
> > Allow two special values in the implementation patterns for
> > _python_impl_matches(): -2 to indicate all Python 2-compatible
> > implementations, and -3 to indicate all Pyth
On Wed, 10 May 2017 20:53:31 +0200
Michał Górny wrote:
> Allow two special values in the implementation patterns for
> _python_impl_matches(): -2 to indicate all Python 2-compatible
> implementations, and -3 to indicate all Python 3-compatible
> implementations. Both of those values are implement
On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 2:53 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
> Allow two special values in the implementation patterns for
> _python_impl_matches(): -2 to indicate all Python 2-compatible
> implementations, and -3 to indicate all Python 3-compatible
> implementations. Both of those values are implemented
On Wed, 10 May 2017 07:28:15 + (UTC)
Martin Vaeth wrote:
> For instance, you cannot even compile the kernel without special
> patches (which disable pie) if you use a gcc which default-enables
> pie.
Now I'm curious. Wouldn't that also affect the hardened gcc? I've never
had any issues compi
On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 3:24 PM, William L. Thomson Jr.
wrote:
>
> Or one is punished for things others are not. Even if other's actions
> are far worse than those of the person being punished.
>
Considering that we don't disclose whether anybody is punished or what
they're punished for publicly,
On Wed, 2017-05-10 at 15:40 -0400, Anthony G. Basile wrote:
> On 5/10/17 3:29 PM, David Seifert wrote:
> > On Wed, 2017-05-10 at 22:24 +0300, Mart Raudsepp wrote:
> > > Ühel kenal päeval, K, 10.05.2017 kell 15:01, kirjutas Anthony G.
> > > Basile:
> > > > On 5/10/17 11:08 AM, William Hubbs wrote:
>
On 5/10/17 3:29 PM, David Seifert wrote:
> On Wed, 2017-05-10 at 22:24 +0300, Mart Raudsepp wrote:
>> Ühel kenal päeval, K, 10.05.2017 kell 15:01, kirjutas Anthony G.
>> Basile:
>>> On 5/10/17 11:08 AM, William Hubbs wrote:
On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 10:04:54AM +0200, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote:
>
On Wed, 2017-05-10 at 22:24 +0300, Mart Raudsepp wrote:
> Ühel kenal päeval, K, 10.05.2017 kell 15:01, kirjutas Anthony G.
> Basile:
> > On 5/10/17 11:08 AM, William Hubbs wrote:
> > > On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 10:04:54AM +0200, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote:
> > > > On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 2:20 PM, Anthony G
On Wed, 10 May 2017 15:08:40 -0400
Rich Freeman wrote:
>
> One of the issues that keeps coming up is around just how
> decentralized we are, and that has pros and cons. We're pretty
> reluctant to actually enforce just about anything,
Facts would show otherwise. Enforcement depends on the person
Ühel kenal päeval, K, 10.05.2017 kell 15:01, kirjutas Anthony G.
Basile:
> On 5/10/17 11:08 AM, William Hubbs wrote:
> > On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 10:04:54AM +0200, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote:
> > > On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 2:20 PM, Anthony G. Basile > > o.org> wrote:
> > > > I maintain quite a few ppc sta
Ühel kenal päeval, K, 10.05.2017 kell 13:17, kirjutas Michael Jones:
> From a non-gentoo developer who seriously looked at joining the
> community over the last few years as a new developer, this entire
> conversation thread is absurd, and is a wonderful example of why I
> decided to not bother.
I
On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 2:17 PM, Michael Jones wrote:
> From a non-gentoo developer who seriously looked at joining the community
> over the last few years as a new developer, this entire conversation thread
> is absurd, and is a wonderful example of why I decided to not bother.
>
> If you don't w
On 5/10/17 11:08 AM, William Hubbs wrote:
> On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 10:04:54AM +0200, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote:
>> On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 2:20 PM, Anthony G. Basile
>> wrote:
>>> I maintain quite a few ppc stage3's for uclibc and musl. I would
>>> appreciate keeping ppc as is. It is still a useful
---
virtual/python-dnspython/python-dnspython-1.ebuild | 4 ++--
1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
diff --git a/virtual/python-dnspython/python-dnspython-1.ebuild
b/virtual/python-dnspython/python-dnspython-1.ebuild
index 063bbe7ce66f..885153f90caf 100644
--- a/virtual/python-dnspy
---
virtual/python-futures/python-futures-0.ebuild | 2 +-
1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
diff --git a/virtual/python-futures/python-futures-0.ebuild
b/virtual/python-futures/python-futures-0.ebuild
index 094a0c6dbdd8..d810a9cc3261 100644
--- a/virtual/python-futures/python-future
Allow two special values in the implementation patterns for
_python_impl_matches(): -2 to indicate all Python 2-compatible
implementations, and -3 to indicate all Python 3-compatible
implementations. Both of those values are implemented using
the python_is_python3 function.
This is mostly meant to
>From a non-gentoo developer who seriously looked at joining the community
over the last few years as a new developer, this entire conversation thread
is absurd, and is a wonderful example of why I decided to not bother.
If you don't want people to edit the field such that it's usable with the
off
On Wed, May 10, 2017, at 10:32 CDT, Hanno Böck wrote:
> Can't we just provide a small script or bash oneliner that will rebuild
> all affected packages?
See mail e-mail with the updated news item.
"[RFC] News item: GCC 6 defaults to USE="pie ssp", v2"
Best,
Matthias
On 05/10/2017 05:33 PM, David Seifert wrote:
> On Wed, 2017-05-10 at 18:22 +0300, Mart Raudsepp wrote:
>>
>
> He doesn't stop: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=617694
> Please drop editbugs privileges for some time. Everyone agrees that
> this maintainer-specific metadata is not to be tou
On Wed, 2017-05-10 at 18:22 +0300, Mart Raudsepp wrote:
> Ühel kenal päeval, T, 02.05.2017 kell 02:31, kirjutas Andreas K.
> Huettel:
> > Am Sonntag, 30. April 2017, 12:29:46 CEST schrieb Mart Raudsepp:
> > >
> > > Please stop editing package lists when you are not the maintainer
> > > and
> > > a
On Wed, 10 May 2017 15:29:19 +0200
"Andreas K. Huettel" wrote:
> * generate a new set of profiles 17.0 where it's package.use.forced
> * tell people they may have to rebuild world when they switch
Do we really need to rebuild world?
From what I understand problems arise if we have packages insta
Hi,
On Wed, 10 May 2017 07:28:15 + (UTC)
Martin Vaeth wrote:
> I am using gcc-6 since ages and tried to run a desktop with default
> pie for quite a while, but soon was forced to give up:
>
> There are simply too many package which fail to compile;
> this cannot even be recommended to early
Ühel kenal päeval, T, 02.05.2017 kell 02:31, kirjutas Andreas K.
Huettel:
> Am Sonntag, 30. April 2017, 12:29:46 CEST schrieb Mart Raudsepp:
> >
> > Please stop editing package lists when you are not the maintainer
> > and
> > arches are already CCed.
> >
>
> +1
>
> Please stop it.
> And yes th
On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
> Hi, everyone.
>
> Here's a quick batch of improvements to python_moduleinto() in
> python-utils-r1.eclass. Patches are, in order:
>
> 1. fix leftover doc comment,
>
> 2. clarify the doc wrt use across multiple impls,
>
> 3. allow dot-notation
On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 10:04:54AM +0200, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote:
> On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 2:20 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote:
> > I maintain quite a few ppc stage3's for uclibc and musl. I would
> > appreciate keeping ppc as is. It is still a useful arch for many
> > devices today, eg. some high e
On Wed, 10 May 2017 15:42:25 +0200
Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote:
> On 05/10/2017 03:29 PM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
> > Am Mittwoch, 10. Mai 2017, 13:58:56 CEST schrieb Dirkjan Ochtman:
> >> On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 11:19 AM, Kristian Fiskerstrand
> >>
> > wrote:
> >>> Sounds like a reason
---
dev-python/repoze-who/repoze-who-2.2-r1.ebuild | 4 ++--
1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
diff --git a/dev-python/repoze-who/repoze-who-2.2-r1.ebuild
b/dev-python/repoze-who/repoze-who-2.2-r1.ebuild
index f2f3ac568592..fb3636b8fe99 100644
--- a/dev-python/repoze-who/repoze-who
Allow specifying the relative package destination using the dot-notation
used by Python itself (e.g. 'foo.bar') in addition to the directory form
('foo/bar'). Since dot can not be used in Python package names, this
change is backwards-compatible.
---
eclass/python-utils-r1.eclass | 6 --
1 fil
Clearly indicate that python_moduleinto can be safely called outside
of the environment with Python interpreter established, and that
a single call can set the correct relative path for multiple different
implementations.
---
eclass/python-utils-r1.eclass | 6 ++
1 file changed, 6 insertions(+
Remove the bit of old python_moduleinto documentation that has been
accidentally left over.
---
eclass/python-utils-r1.eclass | 6 --
1 file changed, 6 deletions(-)
diff --git a/eclass/python-utils-r1.eclass b/eclass/python-utils-r1.eclass
index 66a359e8daee..c46feb08449b 100644
--- a/eclass/
Hi, everyone.
Here's a quick batch of improvements to python_moduleinto() in
python-utils-r1.eclass. Patches are, in order:
1. fix leftover doc comment,
2. clarify the doc wrt use across multiple impls,
3. allow dot-notation for targets, i.e.
python_moduleinto foo.bar
alternatively to:
p
> -> This would also give us some time to discuss what other changes we might
> make with the transition to the new profiles.
>
> -> Also, this means the transition is independent of gcc release timing.
>
> (We just need to be careful since hardened also inherits 13.0, so the setting
> must be o
On 05/10/2017 03:29 PM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, 10. Mai 2017, 13:58:56 CEST schrieb Dirkjan Ochtman:
>> On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 11:19 AM, Kristian Fiskerstrand
> wrote:
>>> Sounds like a reasonable action plan. The consequences of such a change
>>> definitely seems to be sufficie
On 05/10/2017 03:35 PM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
> I'm wondering a bit if we're not trying to make ~arch stable again. Then
> again
> nobody of us knows all use cases of Gentoo everywhere, so listening to the
> list makes sense.
Well, it'd affect stable users at _some_ point, and as you say; i
Am Mittwoch, 10. Mai 2017, 15:31:13 CEST schrieb James Le Cuirot:
> On Wed, 10 May 2017 08:20:32 -0500
>
> Matthias Maier wrote:
> > On Wed, May 10, 2017, at 02:28 CDT, Martin Vaeth
> >
> > wrote:
> > > I am using gcc-6 since ages and tried to run a desktop with default
> > > pie for quite a wh
On Wed, 10 May 2017 08:20:32 -0500
Matthias Maier wrote:
> On Wed, May 10, 2017, at 02:28 CDT, Martin Vaeth
> wrote:
>
> > I am using gcc-6 since ages and tried to run a desktop with default
> > pie for quite a while, but soon was forced to give up:
>
> > [...]
>
> I have pie enabled on a
Am Mittwoch, 10. Mai 2017, 13:58:56 CEST schrieb Dirkjan Ochtman:
> On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 11:19 AM, Kristian Fiskerstrand
wrote:
> > Sounds like a reasonable action plan. The consequences of such a change
> > definitely seems to be sufficiently high to merit a proper migration
> > plan which do
On Wed, May 10, 2017, at 02:28 CDT, Martin Vaeth wrote:
> I am using gcc-6 since ages and tried to run a desktop with default pie
> for quite a while, but soon was forced to give up:
> [...]
I have pie enabled on a desktop for years. Almost all major linux
distribution have pie enabled as well
Mike Gilbert schrieb:
I disagree. We might want to default the "pie" USE flag differently
depending on the profile, but there's no need to force it.
I think we should force the pie USE flag on/off depending on the profile.
My proposal:
For all profiles except hardened, introduce a pie/nopie va
On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 11:19 AM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote:
> Sounds like a reasonable action plan. The consequences of such a change
> definitely seems to be sufficiently high to merit a proper migration
> plan which doesn't seem to have been established at this point. Whether
> that can be ad
On Wed, 10 May 2017 09:23:04 +0200
Alexis Ballier wrote:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1238804 (building perl with
> pie seems to make some perl packages fail at runtime)
If that's really the case, can we *not* do this right now?
There's one thing Perl team don't need right now
On 05/10/2017 09:52 AM, Alexis Ballier wrote:
> On Tue, 09 May 2017 18:58:42 -0500
> Matthias Maier wrote:
>
>> This is a reworded news item (assuming we proceed with the plan to
>> default-enable USE=pie). Suggestions for improving the emerge command
>> to fix static archives is highly welcomed.
On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 2:20 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote:
> I maintain quite a few ppc stage3's for uclibc and musl. I would
> appreciate keeping ppc as is. It is still a useful arch for many
> devices today, eg. some high end Mikrotik routers.
So are you willing to do the work? There are curren
On Tue, 09 May 2017 18:58:42 -0500
Matthias Maier wrote:
> This is a reworded news item (assuming we proceed with the plan to
> default-enable USE=pie). Suggestions for improving the emerge command
> to fix static archives is highly welcomed.
>
Really, I think the slot to have pie for gcc 6 has
On Tue, 09 May 2017 18:13:06 -0500
Matthias Maier wrote:
> > For a transition we can probably build everything with -fPIE but not
> > link with -pie. If we want that to happen fast, gcc-6 might do that
> > and gcc-7 add the -pie option.
>
> I am not entirely convinced that a transition period
Hanno Böck wrote:
> I really think it's about time that pie becomes the default in Gentoo.
Although I agree from a security perspective, I must warn that
this is not realistic, currently:
I am using gcc-6 since ages and tried to run a desktop with default pie
for quite a while, but soon was forc
On Wed, 10 May 2017 01:40:36 +0200
"Andreas K. Huettel" wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, 10. Mai 2017, 00:47:30 CEST schrieb Alexis Ballier:
> > On Tue, 9 May 2017 23:18:20 +0200 Hanno Böck
> > wrote:
> > > I really think it's about time that pie becomes the default in
> > > Gentoo.
> >
> > For a tran
On Wed, 10 May 2017 01:44:06 +0200
"Andreas K. Huettel" wrote:
> >
> > While I believe it might be a bit too early to default-enable pie,
> > why not, but the news item *must* contain instructions that people
> > should 'emerge -e world' in order for it to work.
> >
> > Also, I don't believe def
On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 23:02:40 +0200
Manuel Rüger wrote:
> www-servers/spawn-fcgi
I’ll file for proxied maintainership of this one, since it looks like
nobody else has taken it yet.
--
Christopher Head
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