Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 1/2] cmake-utils.eclass: CMake argument passing rework - clean build_rules and toolchain_file files from unrelated stuff (pass to CMake directly) - move some invariant CMake op

2016-11-03 Thread Maciej Mrozowski
On czwartek, 3 listopada 2016 07:31:10 CET Michał Górny wrote: > On Thu, 3 Nov 2016 00:52:16 +0100 > > Maciej Mrozowski wrote: > > From: Maciej Mrozowski > > > > --- > > > > eclass/cmake-utils.eclass | 54 > > ++- 1 file changed, 21 > > insertions

Re: [gentoo-dev] Optimizing toe stepping

2016-11-03 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 5:36 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > On Thursday, November 3, 2016 9:14:56 AM EDT William Hubbs wrote: >> >> I am also in favor of the metadata approach. > > Also it may start inching things towards restricting areas of the tree to said > members of teams etc. Which star

Re: [gentoo-dev] Optimizing toe stepping

2016-11-03 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Thu, Nov 03, 2016 at 05:36:03PM -0400, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > On Thursday, November 3, 2016 9:14:56 AM EDT William Hubbs wrote: I have posted about this subject before, and I'll go and dust off the proposal with the last changes added, when I have time soon hopefully. > > I am also in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Optimizing toe stepping

2016-11-03 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Thursday, November 3, 2016 9:14:56 AM EDT William Hubbs wrote: > > I am also in favor of the metadata approach. The only downfall is you end up with lots of package/developer specific policies which may become complex and a nuisance. It is likely better to have more of a global policy. Also

Re: [gentoo-dev] Step on my toes, please.

2016-11-03 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Thursday, November 3, 2016 11:15:07 AM EDT Jason A. Donenfeld wrote: > Hey guys, > > Every other day on IRC, I see people arguing about touching each > others packages, despite our policies against it. (Sometimes it's even > me who's doing the touching!) My instinctive reaction is always, > "ca

Re: [gentoo-dev] Revisiting version-related tree policies

2016-11-03 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Thu, 3 Nov 2016, Michał Górny wrote: > == Policy changes? == > I think that the following new policies could make sense: > 1. Revision number must be no longer than : > 1a. to make <=X-r reliable, > 1b. to prevent pathological uses of revision as date. I think that we should con

Re: [gentoo-dev] Revisiting version-related tree policies

2016-11-03 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 1:44 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > On 03/11/16 01:20 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: >> >> Let's just hope nobody starts using tex version numbering and so on. >> Dates might be used in cases where upstream doesn't publish sane >> revisions (in fact, texlive versions are dates, albe

Re: [gentoo-dev] Revisiting version-related tree policies

2016-11-03 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
On 03/11/16 01:20 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Michał Górny wrote: >> >> 1. Revision number must be no longer than : >> 1a. to make <=X-r reliable, >> 1b. to prevent pathological uses of revision as date. >> > > Let's just hope nobody starts using tex version

Re: [gentoo-dev] Step on my toes, please.

2016-11-03 Thread Gilles Dartiguelongue
Le jeudi 03 novembre 2016 à 11:15 +0100, Jason A. Donenfeld a écrit : > Hey guys, > > Every other day on IRC, I see people arguing about touching each > others packages, despite our policies against it. (Sometimes it's > even > me who's doing the touching!) My instinctive reaction is always, > "ca

Re: [gentoo-dev] Revisiting version-related tree policies

2016-11-03 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > > 1. Revision number must be no longer than : > 1a. to make <=X-r reliable, > 1b. to prevent pathological uses of revision as date. > Let's just hope nobody starts using tex version numbering and so on. Dates might be used in cases wh

[gentoo-dev] Revisiting version-related tree policies

2016-11-03 Thread Michał Górny
Hi, everyone. As part of our work on version operators, we've noticed some issues with our version policies. ulm has done some additional research on the topic and now I'd like to open a discussion on our rules. == PMS rules == PMS specifies only minimal syntax for versions, that is allowed type

Re: [gentoo-dev] Optimizing toe stepping

2016-11-03 Thread William Hubbs
On Thu, Nov 03, 2016 at 09:54:39AM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 9:45 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > > > > > > Although metadata.xml is one way to do this, since it is more of a social > > thing than a technical one I think it might be better to wikify it instead > > -- each

Re: [gentoo-dev] Optimizing toe stepping

2016-11-03 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 9:45 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > > > Although metadata.xml is one way to do this, since it is more of a social > thing than a technical one I think it might be better to wikify it instead -- > each dev can list their "please fix my package" preferences in a per package

Re: [gentoo-dev] Optimizing toe stepping

2016-11-03 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
> On Nov 3, 2016, at 8:21 AM, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote: > >> On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 1:15 PM, Nick Vinson wrote: >> Just doing that one little thing would have prevented or shutdown the >> arguments I have seen. > > Yes, obviously of course. > > But sometimes it's just easier and quicker to me

Re: [gentoo-dev] Optimizing toe stepping

2016-11-03 Thread Jason A. Donenfeld
On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 1:15 PM, Nick Vinson wrote: > Just doing that one little thing would have prevented or shutdown the > arguments I have seen. Yes, obviously of course. But sometimes it's just easier and quicker to meddle in somebody else's ebuild to improve a particular situation. The ques

Re: [gentoo-dev] Optimizing toe stepping

2016-11-03 Thread Nick Vinson
On 11/03/2016 03:16 AM, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote: > Hey guys, > > Every other day on IRC, I see people arguing about touching each > others packages, despite our policies against it. (Sometimes it's even > me who's doing the touching!) My instinctive reaction is always, > "can't everybody calm dow

[gentoo-dev] Lastrites: mail-filter/spamprobe

2016-11-03 Thread Pacho Ramos
# Pacho Ramos (03 Nov 2016) # Dead for ages and broken with giflib-5.1, bug #574218. Removal in a month. mail-filter/spamprobe

[gentoo-dev] Optimizing toe stepping

2016-11-03 Thread Jason A. Donenfeld
Hey guys, Every other day on IRC, I see people arguing about touching each others packages, despite our policies against it. (Sometimes it's even me who's doing the touching!) My instinctive reaction is always, "can't everybody calm down and be happy somebody is doing your work for you?" The answe

[gentoo-dev] Step on my toes, please.

2016-11-03 Thread Jason A. Donenfeld
Hey guys, Every other day on IRC, I see people arguing about touching each others packages, despite our policies against it. (Sometimes it's even me who's doing the touching!) My instinctive reaction is always, "can't everybody calm down and be happy somebody is doing your work for you?" The answe