Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: LLVM

2016-08-19 Thread C Bergström
On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 5:41 AM, james wrote: > On 08/19/2016 05:05 PM, C Bergström wrote: >> >> On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 4:52 AM, james wrote: >> >> >> > > You removed your rude remark::: > " Sorry to be the party crasher, but..." > > So let's put it back, just for clarity. I'll forgive you bec

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: LLVM

2016-08-19 Thread james
On 08/19/2016 05:05 PM, C Bergström wrote: On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 4:52 AM, james wrote: You removed your rude remark::: " Sorry to be the party crasher, but..." So let's put it back, just for clarity. Back to my own glass house.. It will take a few years, but I am trying to make it eas

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: LLVM

2016-08-19 Thread C Bergström
On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 4:52 AM, james wrote: >> Back to my own glass house.. It will take a few years, but I am trying >> to make it easier (internally) to expose in some clear way all the >> pieces which compose a fine tuning per-processor. If this was "just" >> scheduling models it would be

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: LLVM

2016-08-19 Thread james
On 08/19/2016 02:20 PM, C Bergström wrote: Sorry to be the party crasher, but... I'd love to have optimizations for everything out there, but it takes a lot of work to fine tune for something specific. Agreed. Right now on Armv8 alone, there are dozens of teams working on the identical concep

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: LLVM

2016-08-19 Thread C Bergström
Sorry to be the party crasher, but... I'd love to have optimizations for everything out there, but it takes a lot of work to fine tune for something specific. Right now I see a few variants of ARMv8 ARM reference stuff - A57 cores and the newer bits.. The scheduling and stuff seems m

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: LLVM

2016-08-19 Thread james
On 08/19/2016 11:15 AM, C Bergström wrote: On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 11:01 PM, Luca Barbato wrote: BTW is pathscale ready to be used as system compiler as well? I wish, but no. We have known issues when building grub2, glibc and the Linux kernel at the very least. Someone* did report a long tim

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: LLVM

2016-08-19 Thread Luca Barbato
On 19/08/16 17:15, C Bergström wrote: > On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 11:01 PM, Luca Barbato wrote: >> BTW is pathscale ready to be used as system compiler as well? > > I wish, but no. We have known issues when building grub2, glibc and > the Linux kernel at the very least. Someone* did report a long t

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: LLVM

2016-08-19 Thread Luca Barbato
On 19/08/16 19:13, C Bergström wrote: > I finally got it to build and here's the size numbers > 952K./lib/libc++abi.a > 616K./lib/libc++abi.so.1.0 > > If the above isn't enough motivation and you really want benchmarks > which prove it's a pig... I'll try to figure something else > > Not

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: LLVM

2016-08-19 Thread C Bergström
I finally got it to build and here's the size numbers 952K./lib/libc++abi.a 616K./lib/libc++abi.so.1.0 If the above isn't enough motivation and you really want benchmarks which prove it's a pig... I'll try to figure something else Not exactly a 1:1 comparison because I think other things

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: LLVM

2016-08-19 Thread Lei Zhang
2016-08-19 11:11 GMT+08:00 C Bergström : > I think you're getting a bit confused > > libsupc++ is the default now, from GNU > > libcxxabi is the bloated runtime from Apple > > libcxxrt is the faster c++ runtime, PathScale+David Chisnall, which > PathScale and FreeBSD use by default. We don't need a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2016-08-19 Thread james
On 08/19/2016 06:07 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote: This packages are now up for grabs: app-crypt/efitools app-crypt/pesign app-doc/linux-kernel-in-a-nutshell dev-util/cgvg dev-util/kup dev-util/xxdi net-misc/bti app-doc/linux-kernel-in-a-nutshell is quite interesting. I went to greg's site, looked a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Developers, please work on underlinking issues!

2016-08-19 Thread james
On 08/19/2016 03:49 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 12:58 AM, Michał Górny wrote: On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 15:21:16 +0200 Alexis Ballier wrote: On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 08:13:14 -0400 Rich Freeman wrote: If you just check your packages occassionally to make sure they build with gold

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: LLVM

2016-08-19 Thread C Bergström
On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 11:01 PM, Luca Barbato wrote: > BTW is pathscale ready to be used as system compiler as well? I wish, but no. We have known issues when building grub2, glibc and the Linux kernel at the very least. Someone* did report a long time ago that with their unofficial port, were a

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: LLVM

2016-08-19 Thread Luca Barbato
On 19/08/16 05:11, C Bergström wrote: > I think you're getting a bit confused > > libsupc++ is the default now, from GNU > > libcxxabi is the bloated runtime from Apple > > libcxxrt is the faster c++ runtime, PathScale+David Chisnall, which > PathScale and FreeBSD use by default. We don't need a

[gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2016-08-19 Thread Pacho Ramos
This packages are now up for grabs: app-arch/unmakeself app-crypt/md5deep app-editors/leafpad x11-misc/revelation x11-themes/vanilla-dmz-aa-xcursors x11-themes/vanilla-dmz-xcursors

Re: [gentoo-dev] Developers, please work on underlinking issues!

2016-08-19 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 06:58:44 +0200 Michał Górny wrote: > On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 15:21:16 +0200 > Alexis Ballier wrote: > > > On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 08:13:14 -0400 > > Rich Freeman wrote: > > > > > If you just check your packages occassionally to make sure they > > > build with gold it completely

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: /etc/init.d/modules loading modules defined in files

2016-08-19 Thread Thomas Deutschmann
On 2016-08-17 01:49, Matthias Maier wrote: >> I have received a request to implement a feature in OpenRC to allow >> multiple software packages to drop files in a directory, /etc/modules.d >> for example, which would define modules the /etc/init.d/modules script >> would load. > > What about /etc/m

[gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2016-08-19 Thread Pacho Ramos
This packages are now up for grabs: app-crypt/efitools app-crypt/pesign app-doc/linux-kernel-in-a-nutshell dev-util/cgvg dev-util/kup dev-util/xxdi net-misc/bti

Re: [gentoo-dev] Developers, please work on underlinking issues!

2016-08-19 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 12:58 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 15:21:16 +0200 > Alexis Ballier wrote: > >> On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 08:13:14 -0400 >> Rich Freeman wrote: >> >> > If you just check your packages occassionally to make sure they build >> > with gold it completely achieves th