Re: [gentoo-dev] [gentoo-dev-announce] Last rites:

2015-11-11 Thread Hans de Graaff
On Wed, 2015-11-11 at 11:28 +0100, Justin (jlec) wrote: > # Justin Lecher (28 Feb 2015) > # Unfixed security problems > # No upstream support anymore > # CVE-2015-{0219,0220,0221,0222,5145} > # #536586 > # #554864 > =dev-python/django-1.4* > =dev-python/django-1.5* > =dev-python/django-1.6* > # No

[gentoo-dev] Re: Revise EAPI 6? (was: [RFC] ban use of base-4 casemods in ebuilds due to locale collation instability)

2015-11-11 Thread Martin Vaeth
Jason A. Donenfeld wrote: > > I'd be in favor of full-on LC_ALL=C. Setting LC_ALL seems wrong as it is meant as a quick hack and should not be relied on by a "generic" tool like portage. Better define to *unset* LC_ALL (remembering the previous value, see below) and to set (all?) other LC_* to d

Re: [gentoo-dev] Revise EAPI 6?

2015-11-11 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Wed, 11 Nov 2015, Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 6:18 PM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >> In the meantime, we could go with the minimum changes necessary to >> unbreak the bash 4.2 case conversion operators. Setting LC_COLLATE >> to C and LC_CTYPE to some sane locale should be su

[gentoo-dev] Re: ChangeLog - Infra Response; update 2015/11/11, potential impact to 30min rsync cycle

2015-11-11 Thread Duncan
Robin H. Johnson posted on Wed, 11 Nov 2015 23:11:48 + as excerpted: > On Thu, Nov 05, 2015 at 12:54:06PM +0100, Alexis Ballier wrote: >> It's not perfectly clean but I don't see any problem here: >> ChangeLog-2015 : all ChangeLog from CVS ChangeLog: autogenerated from >> git > FYI, this was

Re: [gentoo-dev] Revise EAPI 6?

2015-11-11 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 6:18 PM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >> On Wed, 11 Nov 2015, Matthias Maier wrote: > >> On Wed, Nov 11, 2015, at 15:52 CST, "Jason A. Donenfeld" >> wrote: > >>> I'd be in favor of full-on LC_ALL=C. > >> ++ > >> I'm surprised that we do not have such a policy already. > > LC

Re: [gentoo-dev] Revise EAPI 6?

2015-11-11 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Wed, 11 Nov 2015, Matthias Maier wrote: > On Wed, Nov 11, 2015, at 15:52 CST, "Jason A. Donenfeld" > wrote: >> I'd be in favor of full-on LC_ALL=C. > ++ > I'm surprised that we do not have such a policy already. LC_ALL=C would disable UTF-8, and I am told that this would cause probl

Re: [gentoo-dev] ChangeLog - Infra Response; update 2015/11/11, potential impact to 30min rsync cycle

2015-11-11 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Thu, Nov 05, 2015 at 12:54:06PM +0100, Alexis Ballier wrote: > It's not perfectly clean but I don't see any problem here: > ChangeLog-2015 : all ChangeLog from CVS > ChangeLog: autogenerated from git FYI, this was implemented. For reference, the old CVS changelogs are now taken from HEAD of thi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Revise EAPI 6?

2015-11-11 Thread Matthias Maier
On Wed, Nov 11, 2015, at 15:52 CST, "Jason A. Donenfeld" wrote: > I'd be in favor of full-on LC_ALL=C. ++ I'm surprised that we do not have such a policy already. Best, Matthias

Re: [gentoo-dev] Revise EAPI 6? (was: [RFC] ban use of base-4 casemods in ebuilds due to locale collation instability)

2015-11-11 Thread Jason A. Donenfeld
I'd be in favor of full-on LC_ALL=C. Ebuilds are meant for having a particular determinism. They're machine scripts. The operations they do need to be consistent. For user-facing parts, such as printing information, or sorting user-shown text, I can understand ebuild authors might want in some spe

[gentoo-dev] Revise EAPI 6? (was: [RFC] ban use of base-4 casemods in ebuilds due to locale collation instability)

2015-11-11 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Wed, 11 Nov 2015, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 07:16:42 +0100 > Patrick Lauer wrote: >> Wouldn't it be 'easier' (fsov easy) to have portage use sane-default >> locale settings, so that estonian or turkish users don't get hit by >> weirdness in the [a-z] character class et

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] repo/gentoo:master commit in: eclass/

2015-11-11 Thread Luca Barbato
On 11/11/15 10:09, Michał Górny wrote: > I'd rather use the old standard 80. Minus 8 characters for friendly > e-mail quoting, which is also kinda 'old standard'. You can suggest as above, with this tone, and probably you would get some consensus. Personally I think 80col is nice since you can ha

Re: [gentoo-dev] Executable location changes

2015-11-11 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Wed, 11 Nov 2015, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > We just got a bug, > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=565500 > due to the `uptime` binary changing locations in > sys-process/procps-3.3.11-r2. The nagios-plugins package picks up > the location of `uptime` while it's installing, so wh

[gentoo-dev] Executable location changes

2015-11-11 Thread Michael Orlitzky
We just got a bug, https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=565500 due to the `uptime` binary changing locations in sys-process/procps-3.3.11-r2. The nagios-plugins package picks up the location of `uptime` while it's installing, so when users upgrade procps, some plugins stop working. Is there

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] ban use of base-4 casemods in ebuilds due to locale collation instability

2015-11-11 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 07:16:42 +0100 Patrick Lauer wrote: > Wouldn't it be 'easier' (fsov easy) to have portage use sane-default > locale settings, so that estonian or turkish users don't get hit by > weirdness in the [a-z] character class etc.? Paludis forces all the LC variables to sane values. A

[gentoo-dev] [gentoo-dev-announce] Last rites:

2015-11-11 Thread Justin (jlec)
# Justin Lecher (28 Feb 2015) # Unfixed security problems # No upstream support anymore # CVE-2015-{0219,0220,0221,0222,5145} # #536586 # #554864 =dev-python/django-1.4* =dev-python/django-1.5* =dev-python/django-1.6* # Not supported by any django version upstream supports dev-python/south dev-pyt

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCHES] python-utils-r1.eclass: Getter cleanup & ABIFLAGS preparation

2015-11-11 Thread Michał Górny
On Sun, 8 Nov 2015 10:35:04 +0100 Michał Górny wrote: > Hello, everyone. > > As you probably don't know, Justin lately noticed that we're carrying > some ugly hacks in Python 3.2+ where we diverge from upstream and break > binary compatibility for the sake of 'aesthetics'. While we're not yet >

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] ban use of base-4 casemods in ebuilds due to locale collation instability

2015-11-11 Thread Michał Górny
On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 07:16:42 +0100 Patrick Lauer wrote: > On 11/11/2015 03:51 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On 10 Nov 2015 18:53, Mike Frysinger wrote: > >> i randomly stumbled across an ebuild that was using ^^ to make a variable > >> uppercase. this is new to bash-4.0 and thus invalid for EA

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] repo/gentoo:master commit in: eclass/

2015-11-11 Thread Michał Górny
On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 18:53:03 -0500 Mike Frysinger wrote: > On 31 Oct 2015 09:08, Michał Górny wrote: > > On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 03:06:21 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > On 30 Oct 2015 18:20, Michał Górny wrote: > > > > On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 12:03:59 + (UTC) "Justin Lecher" wrote: > > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] ban use of base-4 casemods in ebuilds due to locale collation instability

2015-11-11 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Wed, 11 Nov 2015, Mike Frysinger wrote: >> This is wrong on so many levels. :( It starts with the fact that the >> dot over the lowercase latin i historically never was a diacritical >> mark [1]. >> >> Maybe we should advise users in our documentaion that they should >> avoid such broken