[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Rebooting the Installer Project

2015-07-21 Thread Duncan
Andrew Savchenko posted on Tue, 21 Jul 2015 19:08:43 +0300 as excerpted: > n Tue, 21 Jul 2015 09:10:52 -0500 J.Rutkowski wrote: >> The problem I have with using Sabayon to ultimately install Gentoo is >> it takes way too much work than just doing a Gentoo install... > > You missed my point. [...

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Rebooting the Installer Project

2015-07-21 Thread Jauhien Piatlicki
On 07/21/2015 06:08 PM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 09:10:52 -0500 J.Rutkowski wrote: >> The problem I have with using Sabayon to ultimately install Gentoo is it >> takes way too much work than just doing a Gentoo install... > > You missed my point. I'm interesting not in minimiz

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Rebooting the Installer Project

2015-07-21 Thread J.Rutkowski
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015, at 11:08 AM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > It depends on "faster" how, as I mentioned above, I have use cases > where the smallest time from raw box till working environment is > critical. I can use any other distro of course and start to setup > my Gentoo chroot/partition as

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Rebooting the Installer Project

2015-07-21 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 09:10:52 -0500 J.Rutkowski wrote: > The problem I have with using Sabayon to ultimately install Gentoo is it > takes way too much work than just doing a Gentoo install... You missed my point. I'm interesting not in minimizing total time spent for installation and configuration.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Rebooting the Installer Project

2015-07-21 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 21/07/15 12:08 PM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 09:10:52 -0500 J.Rutkowski wrote: >> The problem I have with using Sabayon to ultimately install >> Gentoo is it takes way too much work than just doing a Gentoo >> install... > > Y

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Rebooting the Installer Project

2015-07-21 Thread J.Rutkowski
The problem I have with using Sabayon to ultimately install Gentoo is it takes way too much work than just doing a Gentoo install... You would have to uninstall all entropy applications and begin using just portage, edit make.conf (look for sabayon mirrors), rebuild world, replace Sabayon Kernel w

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Rebooting the Installer Project

2015-07-21 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hi, On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 13:52:07 +0400 Jason Zaman wrote: > On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 03:05:04AM +0300, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > > Maybe a bit off-topic, but occasionally I need a tool to "fast > > install Gentoo and fine-tune it later". This happens quite often on > > a new job box, oh during visi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Rebooting the Installer Project

2015-07-21 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 08:34:00 + (UTC) Duncan wrote: > Andrew Savchenko posted on Tue, 21 Jul 2015 03:05:04 +0300 as excerpted: > > > occasionally I need a tool to "fast install Gentoo and fine-tune it > > later". This happens quite often on a new job box, > > oh during visits where I'm given a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Any deptree stabilization/keywording path finder?

2015-07-21 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hi, On Sat, 18 Jul 2015 21:24:13 +0100 Sergei Trofimovich wrote: > As you have discovered haskell packages have deep dependency chains > and are interdependent. We (the haskell team) don't have a good stabilization > story at all. > > It's partly why you didn't get any response. > > Our plan use

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Reverted python3.4 defaults

2015-07-21 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 18:59:00 +0800 Ben de Groot wrote: > On 20 July 2015 at 17:27, Jason Zaman wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 10:39:25AM +0200, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: > >> On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 6:03 AM, Ben de Groot wrote: > >> > I would like to hear from the other team members, yes. > >> >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Reverted python3.4 defaults

2015-07-21 Thread Igor Savlook
On Tuesday 21 July 2015 18:59:00 Ben de Groot wrote: > On 20 July 2015 at 17:27, Jason Zaman wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 10:39:25AM +0200, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: > >> On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 6:03 AM, Ben de Groot wrote: > >> > I would like to hear from the other team members, yes. > >> >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Reverted python3.4 defaults

2015-07-21 Thread Ben de Groot
On 20 July 2015 at 17:27, Jason Zaman wrote: > On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 10:39:25AM +0200, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 6:03 AM, Ben de Groot wrote: >> > I would like to hear from the other team members, yes. >> >> I have sympathy towards those who are asking for only one Pytho

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Rebooting the Installer Project

2015-07-21 Thread Jason Zaman
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 03:05:04AM +0300, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > On Mon, 20 Jul 2015 10:51:00 +0200 Michał Górny wrote: > > Dnia 2015-07-18, o godz. 12:01:48 > > Matthew Marchese napisał(a): > > > > > I have recently pressed the reboot button on the ol' Installer project. > > > I've been able

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Rebooting the Installer Project

2015-07-21 Thread Duncan
Andrew Savchenko posted on Tue, 21 Jul 2015 03:05:04 +0300 as excerpted: > occasionally I need a tool to "fast install Gentoo and fine-tune it > later". This happens quite often on a new job box, > oh during visits where I'm given a workstation and 3-4 hours to set it > up before doing real work a