Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Becoming a Gentoo developer?

2015-04-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 7:30 PM, Kent Fredric wrote: > > The best argument I have for why the quizzes being what they are is they > require you to engage with gentoo staff in order to get them answered, and > thus ensure you know how to ask questions. > That, and that you're able to interact with

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Becoming a Gentoo developer?

2015-04-17 Thread Kent Fredric
On 18 April 2015 at 07:14, Justin Bronder wrote: > Unless the process has changed > drastically since I joined, the only lengthy part of joining is > potentially waiting for the recruitment team to catch up on their > backlog. If someone doesn't have a couple of hours to spend filling out > the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Becoming a Gentoo developer?

2015-04-17 Thread Kent Fredric
On 18 April 2015 at 02:33, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > The problem is double effort: previously one developer effort was > needed, now effort is doubled at least: reviewers must dig into > details how submitted code works, test it and only then commit. Now > remember that reviewers are also develop

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: News item for net-firewall/shorewall all-in-one package migration

2015-04-17 Thread Thomas D.
Hi, thank you all for the feedback. I read through the news archive and most previous news items don't use the package category in the title. I'll propose > Title: shorewall is now a single package I filled a bug for the news item request: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=546952 -Th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Becoming a Gentoo developer?

2015-04-17 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Am Freitag, 17. April 2015, 16:41:37 schrieb Alexander Berntsen: > > On an unrelated side-note: I am considering a career in landscape > portrait painting instead of computer science. > I hereby confirm that I've read this message. - -- Andreas

Re: [gentoo-dev] Becoming a Gentoo developer?

2015-04-17 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Am Donnerstag, 16. April 2015, 19:27:13 schrieb hasufell: > > High-quality overlays are the easiest way to contribute. I don't think > users should really have to care when or how an ebuild reaches the CVS > gentoo tree. Most projects already use ove

[gentoo-dev] [warning] the bug queue has 119 bugs

2015-04-17 Thread Alex Alexander
Our bug queue has 119 bugs! If you have some spare time, please help assign/sort a few bugs. To view the bug queue, click here: http://bit.ly/m8PQS5 Thanks!

Re: [gentoo-dev] Becoming a Gentoo developer?

2015-04-17 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 16-04-2015 a las 19:27 +0200, hasufell escribió: [...] > To reply to the topic: If the only reason you want to become a gentoo > developer is "contributing ebuilds", then you should reconsider that, > because there are easier ways to do that. > But if you are interested in politics, PMS, EA

[gentoo-dev] Re: Becoming a Gentoo developer?

2015-04-17 Thread Justin Bronder
On 15/04/15 15:02 +0200, Peter Stuge wrote: > Yanestra wrote: > > after a talk with some of the persons present here, it appears, Gentoo > > Linux is actually something like a Freemason lodge. > > I disagree with this. > > I do agree that the threshold to become a developer with write access > to

[gentoo-dev] Re: bug-wrangling (was: [warning] the bug queue has 111 bugs)

2015-04-17 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 17/04/15 12:13 PM, Franz Fellner wrote: > Alex Alexander wrote: >> Our bug queue has 111 bugs! >> >> If you have some spare time, please help assign/sort a few bugs. >> >> To view the bug queue, click here: http://bit.ly/m8PQS5 >> >> Thanks! >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Becoming a Gentoo developer?

2015-04-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 10:41 AM, Alexander Berntsen wrote: > > On 17/04/15 16:33, Andrew Savchenko wrote: >> The problem is double effort: previously one developer effort was >> needed, now effort is doubled at least > You have correctly identified the problem; in order to do things > properly on

RE: [gentoo-dev] [warning] the bug queue has 111 bugs

2015-04-17 Thread Franz Fellner
Alex Alexander wrote: > Our bug queue has 111 bugs! > > If you have some spare time, please help assign/sort a few bugs. > > To view the bug queue, click here: http://bit.ly/m8PQS5 > > Thanks! > Is there something non-devs could do? Would it be OK to just CC HERD mail from epkginfo (as I am no

Re: [gentoo-dev] Becoming a Gentoo developer?

2015-04-17 Thread Alexander Berntsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 17/04/15 16:33, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > The problem is double effort: previously one developer effort was > needed, now effort is doubled at least You have correctly identified the problem; in order to do things properly one must do things prop

Re: [gentoo-dev] Becoming a Gentoo developer?

2015-04-17 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 14:50:00 +0200 hasufell wrote: > >> If you have followed the recent discussions about gentoos organizational > >> structure, review workflow and overlay situation you would know that > >> there is a pretty simple solution for this problem. > > > > I have followed them and I hav

Re: [gentoo-dev] Becoming a Gentoo developer?

2015-04-17 Thread hasufell
On 04/17/2015 02:26 PM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 13:14:49 +0200 hasufell wrote: >> On 04/17/2015 01:00 PM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: >>> On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 12:33:06 +0200 Alexander Berntsen wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 15/04/15 15

Re: [gentoo-dev] Becoming a Gentoo developer?

2015-04-17 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 13:14:49 +0200 hasufell wrote: > On 04/17/2015 01:00 PM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > > On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 12:33:06 +0200 Alexander Berntsen wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >> Hash: SHA256 > >> > >> On 15/04/15 15:02, Peter Stuge wrote: > >>> the threshold to beco

Re: [gentoo-dev] Becoming a Gentoo developer?

2015-04-17 Thread hasufell
On 04/17/2015 01:00 PM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 12:33:06 +0200 Alexander Berntsen wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA256 >> >> On 15/04/15 15:02, Peter Stuge wrote: >>> the threshold to become a developer with write access to the >>> gentoo repo is very h

Re: [gentoo-dev] Becoming a Gentoo developer?

2015-04-17 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hi, On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 10:50:34 +1200 Kent Fredric wrote: > On 17 April 2015 at 02:22, Bob Wya wrote: > > > Are you maintaining an overlay listed in Layman? If not then it's pretty > > obvious that > > you're just trolling the mailing list and wasting a lot of folk's time... > > > > > I'm not

Re: [gentoo-dev] Becoming a Gentoo developer?

2015-04-17 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 04/17/2015 01:00 PM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 12:33:06 +0200 Alexander Berntsen wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 >> >> On 15/04/15 15:02, Peter Stuge wrote: >>> the threshold to become a developer wit

Re: [gentoo-dev] Becoming a Gentoo developer?

2015-04-17 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 12:33:06 +0200 Alexander Berntsen wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 15/04/15 15:02, Peter Stuge wrote: > > the threshold to become a developer with write access to the > > gentoo repo is very high > LOL. No. It's way too low, given our review-les

Re: [gentoo-dev] Becoming a Gentoo developer?

2015-04-17 Thread Alexander Berntsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 15/04/15 15:02, Peter Stuge wrote: > the threshold to become a developer with write access to the > gentoo repo is very high LOL. No. It's way too low, given our review-less workflow in which any dev can do essentially whatever they want. - -- Al

Re: [gentoo-dev] CI services for Gentoo & Social Contract meanings of "dependant" notifications on depgraph breakages

2015-04-17 Thread Alexander Berntsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 15/04/15 11:56, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > frankly it looks like to me that we are just selling our freedom, > slowly, bit by bit. Sadly, I think most Gentoo devs are way past the point of caring. But, for what it's worth, I agree with you comple