[gentoo-dev] Re: Things one could be upset about

2015-01-26 Thread Duncan
Rich Freeman posted on Mon, 26 Jan 2015 09:20:30 -0500 as excerpted: > Honestly, I think we should really reconsider the current GLSA policy. What's the next step, not to step on anyone's toes? It's going to take coordination, so get a sense of the council first and then see what the security

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] LibreSSL, introduce virtual/openssl

2015-01-26 Thread hasufell
On 01/26/2015 01:08 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 5:43 AM, Peter Stuge wrote: >> Rich Freeman wrote: >>> I personally find it annoying when people fork projects, decide not to >>> maintain ABI compatibility with the original project, and then keep >>> filenames the same/etc suc

Re: [gentoo-dev] Review: USE=libav news item

2015-01-26 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:18 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 7:00 AM, Alexis Ballier > wrote: > > On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 12:37:09 +0100 > > Alexis Ballier wrote: > > > >> > media-video/mplayer2 or media-video/mpv may be used as a more > >> > modern replacement. > >> > >> Don't re

Re: [gentoo-dev] Figuring out the solution to in-network-sandbox distcc

2015-01-26 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 12:03:27 +0100 Michał Górny wrote: > Dnia 2015-01-21, o godz. 11:05:34 > Michał Górny napisał(a): > > > Parent namespace solution > > - > > > > The alternative is to wrap distcc so that parent network namespace is > > regained. Sadly, for a start this

Re: [gentoo-dev] Figuring out the solution to in-network-sandbox distcc

2015-01-26 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hi, On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 14:59:01 +0100 Michał Górny wrote: > Dnia 2015-01-21, o godz. 11:05:34 > Michał Górny napisał(a): > > > Generic proxy solution > > -- > > > > The simplest solution so far seems to be setting a generic SOCKS proxy > > inside the build environment, and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Review: news item and script for CPU_FLAGS_X86

2015-01-26 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2015-01-26, o godz. 23:11:35 "viv...@gmail.com" napisał(a): > Il 24/01/2015 00:12, Michał Górny ha scritto: > > $ emerge -1v app-portage/cpuinfo2cpuflags > > $ cpuinfo2cpuflags-x86.py > it's > > cpuinfo2cpuflags-x86 > > w/o the .py here floppym already told me, I updated it locally bu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Review: news item and script for CPU_FLAGS_X86

2015-01-26 Thread viv...@gmail.com
Il 24/01/2015 00:12, Michał Górny ha scritto: > $ emerge -1v app-portage/cpuinfo2cpuflags > $ cpuinfo2cpuflags-x86.py it's cpuinfo2cpuflags-x86 w/o the .py here

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Things one could be upset about

2015-01-26 Thread Róbert Čerňanský
On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 09:20:30 -0500 Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 8:21 AM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > > The result of the current policy is that if you're waiting for the > > GLSA, unless it's _extreme_ priority (heartbleed level), on at > > least amd64, you're very oft

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: USE=libav as replacement for broken || ( libav:= ffmpeg:= )

2015-01-26 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/26/2015 03:57 AM, Alexis Ballier wrote: > On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 09:19:19 -0800 > Zac Medico wrote: > >>> what Michał claims is that 'foo' will want ffmpeg, no matter what. >> >> Maybe he's talking about some case where portage failed to trigger a >> rebuild when appropriate. We've had a numbe

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Review: USE=libav news item

2015-01-26 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2015-01-26, o godz. 07:18:13 Rich Freeman napisał(a): > On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 7:00 AM, Alexis Ballier wrote: > > On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 12:37:09 +0100 > > Alexis Ballier wrote: > > > >> > media-video/mplayer2 or media-video/mpv may be used as a more > >> > modern replacement. > >> > >> Don'

Re: [gentoo-dev] Review: news item and script for CPU_FLAGS_X86

2015-01-26 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2015-01-26, o godz. 16:40:35 Alexis Ballier napisał(a): > On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 16:20:10 +0100 > Michał Górny wrote: > > > Dnia 2015-01-26, o godz. 12:41:00 > > Alexis Ballier napisał(a): > > > > > On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 00:35:39 +0100 > > > Michał Górny wrote: > > > > > > > Title: CPU_FLAG

Re: [gentoo-dev] Review: news item and script for CPU_FLAGS_X86

2015-01-26 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2015-01-26, o godz. 12:41:00 Alexis Ballier napisał(a): > On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 00:35:39 +0100 > Michał Górny wrote: > > > Title: CPU_FLAGS_X86 introduction > > Author: Michał Górny > > Content-Type: text/plain > > Posted: 2015-01-xx > > Revision: 1 > > News-Item-Format: 1.0 > > Display-If-

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] LibreSSL, introduce virtual/openssl

2015-01-26 Thread Rich Freeman
On Jan 26, 2015 11:01 AM, "Peter Stuge" wrote: > > Rich Freeman wrote: > > > > there wouldn't be an /etc/init.d, but rather a bazillion > > /pkg/guid/etc/init.d directories or something like that > > I guess an abstraction akin to pkg-config could solve the problem. > Sort of. You can't call a se

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] LibreSSL, introduce virtual/openssl

2015-01-26 Thread Peter Stuge
Rich Freeman wrote: > >> I personally find it annoying when people fork projects, decide not to > >> maintain ABI compatibility with the original project, and then keep > >> filenames the same/etc such that the packages collide in their > >> recommended configurations. > > > > Some people do it on

Re: [gentoo-dev] Review: USE=libav news item

2015-01-26 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > Dnia 2015-01-26, o godz. 12:15:49 > Peter Stuge napisał(a): > >> "the ffmpeg fork" above is very confusing because libav is the ffmpeg >> fork, and I think what you mean here is simply "ffmpeg". I suggest: > > Well, you aren't correct which

Re: [gentoo-dev] Review: news item and script for CPU_FLAGS_X86

2015-01-26 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 16:20:10 +0100 Michał Górny wrote: > Dnia 2015-01-26, o godz. 12:41:00 > Alexis Ballier napisał(a): > > > On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 00:35:39 +0100 > > Michał Górny wrote: > > > > > Title: CPU_FLAGS_X86 introduction > > > Author: Michał Górny > > > Content-Type: text/plain > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Review: USE=libav news item

2015-01-26 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2015-01-26, o godz. 12:15:49 Peter Stuge napisał(a): > Michał Górny wrote: > > Title: USE=libav introduction > > Author: Micha?? G??rny > > Your mailer doesn't set charset for the .txt attachment. NeedPatch :). > > Content-Type: text/plain > > Posted: 2015-01-yy > > Revision: 1 > > News-

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: USE=libav as replacement for broken || ( libav:= ffmpeg:= )

2015-01-26 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2015-01-26, o godz. 12:57:36 Alexis Ballier napisał(a): > On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 09:19:19 -0800 > Zac Medico wrote: > > > > what Michał claims is that 'foo' will want ffmpeg, no matter what. > > > > Maybe he's talking about some case where portage failed to trigger a > > rebuild when appropr

Re: [gentoo-dev] Review: news item and script for CPU_FLAGS_X86

2015-01-26 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2015-01-26, o godz. 12:41:00 Alexis Ballier napisał(a): > On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 00:35:39 +0100 > Michał Górny wrote: > > > Title: CPU_FLAGS_X86 introduction > > Author: Michał Górny > > Content-Type: text/plain > > Posted: 2015-01-xx > > Revision: 1 > > News-Item-Format: 1.0 > > Display-If-

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Things one could be upset about

2015-01-26 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 8:21 AM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > The result of the current policy is that if you're waiting for the GLSA, > unless it's _extreme_ priority (heartbleed level), on at least amd64, > you're very often sitting there exposed for well over a week, and too > often a

[gentoo-dev] Re: Things one could be upset about

2015-01-26 Thread Duncan
Róbert Čerňanský posted on Sun, 25 Jan 2015 14:27:50 +0100 as excerpted: > On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 04:29:43 + (UTC) > Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: >> [...] > > More frequent updates is most likely the reason that you do not have to > edit use flags every time. With the information below,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Review: USE=libav news item

2015-01-26 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 07:18:13 -0500 Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 7:00 AM, Alexis Ballier > wrote: > > On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 12:37:09 +0100 > > Alexis Ballier wrote: > > > >> > media-video/mplayer2 or media-video/mpv may be used as a more > >> > modern replacement. > >> > >> Don't

Re: [gentoo-dev] Review: USE=libav news item

2015-01-26 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 7:00 AM, Alexis Ballier wrote: > On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 12:37:09 +0100 > Alexis Ballier wrote: > >> > media-video/mplayer2 or media-video/mpv may be used as a more >> > modern replacement. >> >> Don't recommend mplayer2, afaik it's dead. > > Also, I'd drop "modern" from there

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] LibreSSL, introduce virtual/openssl

2015-01-26 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 5:43 AM, Peter Stuge wrote: > Rich Freeman wrote: >> I personally find it annoying when people fork projects, decide not to >> maintain ABI compatibility with the original project, and then keep >> filenames the same/etc such that the packages collide in their >> recommende

Re: [gentoo-dev] Review: USE=libav news item

2015-01-26 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 12:37:09 +0100 Alexis Ballier wrote: > > media-video/mplayer2 or media-video/mpv may be used as a more > > modern replacement. > > Don't recommend mplayer2, afaik it's dead. Also, I'd drop "modern" from there: I don't see much more modernity in those forks except maybe young

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: USE=libav as replacement for broken || ( libav:= ffmpeg:= )

2015-01-26 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 09:19:19 -0800 Zac Medico wrote: > > what Michał claims is that 'foo' will want ffmpeg, no matter what. > > Maybe he's talking about some case where portage failed to trigger a > rebuild when appropriate. We've had a number of bugs like this that > have been fixed. The most r

Re: [gentoo-dev] Review: USE=libav news item

2015-01-26 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 11:20:54 +0100 Michał Górny wrote: > > Where is libav USE and package set as default over ffmpeg? I haven't > > found that in profiles/ dir :/ (or is it going to be done when > > implementing this?) > > Right now in virtual/ffmpeg. not entirely true since the virtual won't t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Review: news item and script for CPU_FLAGS_X86

2015-01-26 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 00:35:39 +0100 Michał Górny wrote: > Title: CPU_FLAGS_X86 introduction > Author: Michał Górny > Content-Type: text/plain > Posted: 2015-01-xx > Revision: 1 > News-Item-Format: 1.0 > Display-If-Keyword: amd64 ~amd64 x86 ~x86 but why ? will you write another news item for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Review: USE=libav news item

2015-01-26 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 00:39:04 +0100 Michał Górny wrote: > Users who want to use the ffmpeg fork > instead need to specify USE=-libav explicitly. As Peter said, please avoid such controversial statements. > The most notable example of such package is > media-video/mplayer which relies on deprecat

Re: [gentoo-dev] Review: USE=libav news item

2015-01-26 Thread Peter Stuge
Michał Górny wrote: > Title: USE=libav introduction > Author: Micha?? G??rny Your mailer doesn't set charset for the .txt attachment. > Content-Type: text/plain > Posted: 2015-01-yy > Revision: 1 > News-Item-Format: 1.0 > Display-If-Installed: media-video/ffmpeg > Display-If-Installed: media-vid

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] LibreSSL, introduce virtual/openssl

2015-01-26 Thread Peter Stuge
Rich Freeman wrote: > I personally find it annoying when people fork projects, decide not to > maintain ABI compatibility with the original project, and then keep > filenames the same/etc such that the packages collide in their > recommended configurations. Some people do it on purpose, with the o