Re: [gentoo-dev] Regarding my final year thesis

2014-11-06 Thread Harsh Bhatt
Thank you Jauhien Piatlicki, Ciaran McCreesh, Ian Stakenvicius, Jeroen Roovers for your detailed replies. After reading all the proivded information, I got confused about doing SAT or CP model. Currently i am in 5 th year of Applied Mathematics and i have 6 months of time to complete my work. >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites media-fonts/oxygen-fonts

2014-11-06 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Thu, 6 Nov 2014 22:49:38 + Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > Not if the new package has already been added you can't. Moving a > package on top of an existing package is very very bad. Also, the versions don't actually match so the content will probably have changed. Oh well. jer

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: future.eclass

2014-11-06 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Thu, 6 Nov 2014, Michał Górny wrote: > Please review the attached future.eclass. Long story short, the idea > is to provide some of the EAPI 6 feel to EAPI 5 ebuilds. I don't like this idea at all. We shouldn't anticipate EAPI 6 features in an eclass before the spec is final and has been

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites media-fonts/oxygen-fonts

2014-11-06 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 6 Nov 2014 23:47:20 +0100 Jeroen Roovers wrote: > On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 23:44:24 +0100 > Manuel Rüger wrote: > > It could have been introduced to the tree as a pkgmove, but it > > wasn't. The best solution for now is imho to lastrite it. > > You could still do the pkgmove right now, and no

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites media-fonts/oxygen-fonts

2014-11-06 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 23:44:24 +0100 Manuel Rüger wrote: > It could have been introduced to the tree as a pkgmove, but it wasn't. > The best solution for now is imho to lastrite it. You could still do the pkgmove right now, and not wait thirty days. :) jer

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites media-fonts/oxygen-fonts

2014-11-06 Thread Manuel Rüger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 06.11.2014 23:19, Jeroen Roovers wrote: > On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 22:03:26 +0100 Manuel Rüger > wrote: > >> # Manuel Rüger (6 Nov 2014) # Use >> kde-base/oxygen-fonts instead # Masked for removal in 30 days >> media-fonts/oxygen-fonts > > That on

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: future.eclass

2014-11-06 Thread Zac Medico
On 11/06/2014 02:16 PM, Jeroen Roovers wrote: > On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 13:42:43 -0800 > Zac Medico wrote: > >> On 11/06/2014 01:32 PM, Jeroen Roovers wrote: >>> I'm not aware of any current definition of order in eclass >>> inheritance. >> >> Maybe PMS doesn't say anything about the order (yet). How

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: future.eclass

2014-11-06 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 13:42:43 -0800 Zac Medico wrote: > Maybe PMS doesn't say anything about the order (yet). But it does. It says parameters are considered in order. -- Ciaran McCreesh signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites media-fonts/oxygen-fonts

2014-11-06 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 22:03:26 +0100 Manuel Rüger wrote: > # Manuel Rüger (6 Nov 2014) > # Use kde-base/oxygen-fonts instead > # Masked for removal in 30 days > media-fonts/oxygen-fonts That one wasn't up for a pkgmove? jer

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: future.eclass

2014-11-06 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 13:42:43 -0800 Zac Medico wrote: > On 11/06/2014 01:32 PM, Jeroen Roovers wrote: > > I'm not aware of any current definition of order in eclass > > inheritance. > > Maybe PMS doesn't say anything about the order (yet). However, I'm > fairly sure that all package managers proc

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: future.eclass

2014-11-06 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Donnerstag, 6. November 2014, 22:56:21 schrieb Rich Freeman: > > I think we are well-served by taking Ciaran's advice here. Utility > eclasses should just passively export functions. Anything that does > overrides should really be designed for special situations and not > widespread use where

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: future.eclass

2014-11-06 Thread Zac Medico
On 11/06/2014 01:53 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Michał Górny wrote: >> >> # This eclass contains backports of functions that were accepted >> # by the Council for the EAPI following the EAPI used by ebuild, >> # and can be implemented in pure shell script. > > I'm no

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: future.eclass

2014-11-06 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 4:38 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Thu, 6 Nov 2014 22:32:17 +0100 > Jeroen Roovers wrote: >> On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 12:40:33 -0800 >> Zac Medico wrote: >> > On 11/06/2014 12:11 PM, Michał Górny wrote: >> > > # multilib.eclass collisions >> > > get_libdir() { future_get_libd

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: future.eclass

2014-11-06 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > > # This eclass contains backports of functions that were accepted > # by the Council for the EAPI following the EAPI used by ebuild, > # and can be implemented in pure shell script. I'm not sure that I like this sort of a moving-target defini

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: future.eclass

2014-11-06 Thread Zac Medico
On 11/06/2014 01:32 PM, Jeroen Roovers wrote: > On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 12:40:33 -0800 > Zac Medico wrote: > >> On 11/06/2014 12:11 PM, Michał Górny wrote: >>> # multilib.eclass collisions >>> get_libdir() { future_get_libdir "${@}"; } >>> # eutils.eclass collisions >>> einstalldocs() { future_einsta

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: future.eclass

2014-11-06 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 6 Nov 2014 22:32:17 +0100 Jeroen Roovers wrote: > On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 12:40:33 -0800 > Zac Medico wrote: > > On 11/06/2014 12:11 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > > > # multilib.eclass collisions > > > get_libdir() { future_get_libdir "${@}"; } > > > # eutils.eclass collisions > > > einstalldocs(

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: future.eclass

2014-11-06 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 12:40:33 -0800 Zac Medico wrote: > On 11/06/2014 12:11 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > > # multilib.eclass collisions > > get_libdir() { future_get_libdir "${@}"; } > > # eutils.eclass collisions > > einstalldocs() { future_einstalldocs "${@}"; } > > This collision handling mechani

Re: [gentoo-dev] Regarding my final year thesis

2014-11-06 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 14:25:46 +0100 Jauhien Piatlicki wrote: > Mathematics you said? That's nice. You can, for example, redesign our > portage's dependency solving algorithm More generally perhaps: do something interesting with the portage tree. If not as directly useful as fixing dependency, a l

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: future.eclass

2014-11-06 Thread Zac Medico
On 11/06/2014 01:11 PM, Zac Medico wrote: > On 11/06/2014 12:40 PM, Zac Medico wrote: >> On 11/06/2014 12:11 PM, Michał Górny wrote: >>> # multilib.eclass collisions >>> get_libdir() { future_get_libdir "${@}"; } >>> # eutils.eclass collisions >>> einstalldocs() { future_einstalldocs "${@}"; } >> >

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: future.eclass

2014-11-06 Thread Zac Medico
On 11/06/2014 12:40 PM, Zac Medico wrote: > On 11/06/2014 12:11 PM, Michał Górny wrote: >> # multilib.eclass collisions >> get_libdir() { future_get_libdir "${@}"; } >> # eutils.eclass collisions >> einstalldocs() { future_einstalldocs "${@}"; } > > This collision handling mechanism seems pretty r

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: dev-ruby/prawn:0, dev-ruby/prawn-{core,layout,security}

2014-11-06 Thread Manuel Rüger
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[gentoo-dev] Last rites media-fonts/oxygen-fonts

2014-11-06 Thread Manuel Rüger
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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: future.eclass

2014-11-06 Thread Zac Medico
On 11/06/2014 12:11 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > # multilib.eclass collisions > get_libdir() { future_get_libdir "${@}"; } > # eutils.eclass collisions > einstalldocs() { future_einstalldocs "${@}"; } This collision handling mechanism seems pretty reasonable. Alternatively, maybe it could die if the

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: future.eclass

2014-11-06 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 6 Nov 2014 21:11:03 +0100 Michał Górny wrote: > Please review the attached future.eclass. Long story short, the idea > is to provide some of the EAPI 6 feel to EAPI 5 ebuilds. Only if using future.eclass means any other developer automatically has permission to upgrade your ebuilds to a n

[gentoo-dev] RFC: future.eclass

2014-11-06 Thread Michał Górny
Hi, Please review the attached future.eclass. Long story short, the idea is to provide some of the EAPI 6 feel to EAPI 5 ebuilds. Quoting the beginning of the DESCRIPTION: # This eclass contains backports of functions that were accepted # by the Council for the EAPI following the EAPI used by eb

[gentoo-dev] glibc-2.20 heading to ~arch

2014-11-06 Thread Mike Frysinger
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Regarding my final year thesis

2014-11-06 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 10:18:18 -0500 Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > ...well, if this is an undergrad project, he could start with the SAT > solver and then do what you recommend for his Masters' .. :) Naah, SAT is doomed. A (bad) vanilla CP model is doable, but in my experience of students doing these k

Re: [gentoo-dev] Regarding my final year thesis

2014-11-06 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 06/11/14 08:43 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 14:25:46 +0100 Jauhien Piatlicki > wrote: >> Mathematics you said? That's nice. You can, for example, redesign >> our portage's dependency solving algorithm, as it is quite slow >> a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Regarding my final year thesis

2014-11-06 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 14:25:46 +0100 Jauhien Piatlicki wrote: > Mathematics you said? That's nice. You can, for example, redesign our > portage's dependency solving algorithm, as it is quite slow at the > moment. ) I do not know what it does have inside right now, but using > SAT solver can be a goo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Regarding my final year thesis

2014-11-06 Thread Jauhien Piatlicki
Hi, Mathematics you said? That's nice. You can, for example, redesign our portage's dependency solving algorithm, as it is quite slow at the moment. ) I do not know what it does have inside right now, but using SAT solver can be a good idea (there is a successful example already: https://en.opensu

[gentoo-dev] Regarding my final year thesis

2014-11-06 Thread Harsh Bhatt
I an Applied Maths student, currently in my final year. In my last 6 months i need to do a thesis something related to Mathematics as i am a Maths student. I have been using gentoo for quite a long time so was thinking to do something related to gentoo. Give me suggestion of what can be done. An

[gentoo-dev] help on lxqt

2014-11-06 Thread Michael Vetter
Hello there, Last night I decided to join the LXQT project. So I was checking our their their repo: git clone http://github.com/lxde/lxqt ~/src/lxqt Cretaed a build directory in there and ran cmake. It appeared that my version of liblxqt(0.8.0) was too old and I needed the current one from git.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Implicit system dependency

2014-11-06 Thread Luca Barbato
On 05/11/14 18:49, Mike Gilbert wrote: On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 12:30 PM, Luca Barbato wrote: On 05/11/14 02:16, Michael Orlitzky wrote: When I was taking my ebuild quizzes, I asked for someone to clarify the implicit system dependency that we have enshrined in the devmanual: https://bugs.