Re: [gentoo-dev] new profile layout with flavors and mix-ins

2014-07-02 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 07/02/2014 13:54, Michał Górny wrote: > Dnia 2014-07-02, o godz. 10:44:16 [snip] > > I don't feel like we ought to vote on something like this without > understanding most of the current profiles. And I'm afraid there are > only few people who have any idea about the current profile > structure

[gentoo-dev] About DELL ALPS touchpad

2014-07-02 Thread taozhijiang
Hello, everyone I am using DELL Latitiude Laptop, comes with ALPS touchpad. When I installed the driver in Windows, this touchpad supports multi-touch very well. I am now using the latest Gentoo with KDE descktop environment, and I also want to enjoy the multi-touch functions, but this is not s

[gentoo-dev] Re: Making a common sub-profile for no-multilib

2014-07-02 Thread Duncan
Jonathan Callen posted on Wed, 02 Jul 2014 19:06:59 -0400 as excerpted: > On 07/02/2014 02:14 PM, Duncan wrote: >> Rich Freeman posted on Wed, 02 Jul 2014 09:30:50 -0400 as excerpted: >> >>> Some things to think about include multilib (just another arch?), >>> systemd, and usr-merge. >> >> FWIW,

[gentoo-dev] Re: Making a common sub-profile for no-multilib

2014-07-02 Thread Jonathan Callen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 07/02/2014 02:14 PM, Duncan wrote: > Rich Freeman posted on Wed, 02 Jul 2014 09:30:50 -0400 as > excerpted: > >> Some things to think about include multilib (just another >> arch?), systemd, and usr-merge. I'm not saying that we need to >> imple

Re: [gentoo-dev] new profile layout with flavors and mix-ins

2014-07-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote: > > On 07/02/2014 03:07 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: >> >> I don't know how to get from here to there. The problem isn't just >> constructing an alternative profile tree. We could even have >> /usr/portage/profiles-r2 and switch bet

Re: [gentoo-dev] new profile layout with flavors and mix-ins

2014-07-02 Thread Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/02/2014 03:07 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > On 07/02/14 14:41, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 07/02/2014 02:10 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: >>> On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Michał Górny

Re: [gentoo-dev] new profile layout with flavors and mix-ins

2014-07-02 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 07/02/14 14:41, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/02/2014 02:10 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Michał Górny wrote: I don't feel like we ought to vote on something like this without understanding most of the current

Re: [gentoo-dev] new profile layout with flavors and mix-ins

2014-07-02 Thread Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/02/2014 02:10 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Michał Górny wrote: >> I don't feel like we ought to vote on something like this without >> understanding most of the current profiles. And I'm afraid there are >> only few

Re: [gentoo-dev] new profile layout with flavors and mix-ins

2014-07-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > Shallow profiles avoid this. Also "features" avoid this (the > closest thing we have to mix-ins) provided they operate on a set of > flags/packages orthogonal to the rest of the stack. You then have shallow > base and you can add as man

Re: [gentoo-dev] new profile layout with flavors and mix-ins

2014-07-02 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 07/02/14 14:10, Rich Freeman wrote: On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Michał Górny wrote: I don't feel like we ought to vote on something like this without understanding most of the current profiles. And I'm afraid there are only few people who have any idea about the current profile structure

[gentoo-dev] Re: Making a common sub-profile for no-multilib

2014-07-02 Thread Duncan
Rich Freeman posted on Wed, 02 Jul 2014 09:30:50 -0400 as excerpted: > Some things to think about include multilib (just another arch?), > systemd, > and usr-merge. I'm not saying that we need to implement any of that > stuff completely - but when planning the profile layout we should at > least

Re: [gentoo-dev] new profile layout with flavors and mix-ins

2014-07-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > I don't feel like we ought to vote on something like this without > understanding most of the current profiles. And I'm afraid there are > only few people who have any idea about the current profile > structure... No argument there. We may ve

Re: [gentoo-dev] package.mask vs ~arch

2014-07-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote: > That is an edge case; it's somewhat hard to maintain a package if you > can't test it, and there are occasions (eg. Amazon EC2 related > packages) where this is indeed needed. I don't see a need to introduce > that masked though; but again, it d

Re: [gentoo-dev] package.mask vs ~arch

2014-07-02 Thread Tom Wijsman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 30 Jun 2014 15:44:21 -0400 Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 30/06/14 03:14 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote: > > > Setting up an overlay for this and poking a stick at a few > > developers to try it out

Re: [gentoo-dev] package.mask vs ~arch

2014-07-02 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Mon, 30 Jun 2014 15:19:59 -0400 Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Tom Wijsman > wrote: > > > > A test of a package to determine whether it appears to be working > > OK or whether it destructs your system isn't too much asked for; if > > it works it can then be ~arch teste

Re: [gentoo-dev] new profile layout with flavors and mix-ins

2014-07-02 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2014-07-02, o godz. 10:44:16 William Hubbs napisał(a): > All, > > I'm moving to a new thread since the discussion has moved away from just > a sub profile for no-multilib. > > On Wed, Jul 02, 2014 at 09:30:50AM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 4:01 PM, Andreas K. Huet

[gentoo-dev] new profile layout with flavors and mix-ins

2014-07-02 Thread William Hubbs
All, I'm moving to a new thread since the discussion has moved away from just a sub profile for no-multilib. On Wed, Jul 02, 2014 at 09:30:50AM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 4:01 PM, Andreas K. Huettel > wrote: > > Am Mittwoch 25 Juni 2014, 15:11:40 schrieb Rich Freeman: >

Re: Re: [gentoo-dev] Making a common sub-profile for no-multilib

2014-07-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 4:01 PM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > Am Mittwoch 25 Juni 2014, 15:11:40 schrieb Rich Freeman: >> On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Michał Górny wrote: >> > Long story short, doing anything to Gentoo profiles is utter pain >> > and comes with random breakage guarantee. There

Re: [gentoo-dev] package.mask vs ~arch

2014-07-02 Thread Peter Stuge
Rich Freeman wrote: > If we're going to define ~arch as basically stable, and arch as > out-of-date, then we might as well drop keywords entirely. I actually don't think that would be such a bad thing. I only consider ~arch relevant, because it is the closest to upstream. I want the distribution

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multilib project newsletter #n

2014-07-02 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2014-07-02, o godz. 07:24:09 Ulrich Mueller napisał(a): > > On Tue, 01 Jul 2014, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > > > On 01/07/14 06:44 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > >>> || ( amd64? ( > >> > >> I thought we were trying to discourage that abomination... > > > It's still necessary, unfortunatel