Re: [gentoo-dev] New virtuals for libudev and libgudev

2014-03-28 Thread Samuli Suominen
You broke the gentoo-x86 by masking these virtuals without the already converted reverse dependencies. Plus I told you to not bother me about this until there is something broken, or you get this banned by the PMS, or you get this feature dropped from the PM. I took the liberty to unbreak the tree

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC GLEP 1005: Package Tags

2014-03-28 Thread yac
On Fri, 28 Mar 2014 20:02:30 + Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Fri, 28 Mar 2014 15:46:49 -0400 > Wyatt Epp wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Ciaran McCreesh > > wrote: > > > On Thu, 27 Mar 2014 03:53:47 +0100 > > > yac wrote: > > >> What I was describing is the difference between fun

Re: [gentoo-dev] crossdev and multilib interference

2014-03-28 Thread Maciej Mrozowski
On Wednesday 26 of March 2014 02:07:56 Mike Frysinger wrote: | cmake is completely broken when it comes to library searching and multilib and | cross-compiling. it will happily look in hardcoded / paths to test for the | existence of files as well as directly execute `pkg-config`. it's a grea

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC GLEP 1005: Package Tags

2014-03-28 Thread Maciej Mrozowski
On Monday 24 of March 2014 16:28:44 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | On Mon, 24 Mar 2014 10:55:38 -0400 | Damien Levac wrote: | > A lot of people already replied to this question: package search. | | Sure, but can you point to prior examples of this kind of stuff | actually working? https://wiki.debian.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Future EAPI Idea: post source hook for eclasses

2014-03-28 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Kent Fredric wrote: > > On 29 March 2014 06:12, Ciaran McCreesh > wrote: >> >> These look a lot like they're just parameters to an eclass... An >> alternative approach is to make this explicit, rather than having >> zillions of environment variables: > > inherit p

Re: [gentoo-dev] New virtuals for libudev and libgudev

2014-03-28 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote: > All in all, this isn't a bad idea on the surface, but the first > arguement shows immediately when this is scaled up. How many other > packages have multiple libs with different sonames? Off hand, I can > think of poplar, but I'm

[gentoo-dev] New virtuals for libudev and libgudev

2014-03-28 Thread Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Recently, without discussion as suggested by the dev manual, new virtuals were added for libudev and libgudev. These virtuals are different than any virtuals use in gentoo in the past, and due to this, I fell the discussion step is critical. As such,

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC GLEP 1005: Package Tags

2014-03-28 Thread Wyatt Epp
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Kent Fredric wrote: > > This example for me suggests we'll need to have some kind of process of > defining what tags should be used for what things, similar to how we have a > process for global USE, mostly, because inconsistency is a bad thing here. > Yes, you wan

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC GLEP 1005: Package Tags

2014-03-28 Thread Gordon Pettey
And now you file a bug to get that incorrectly applied "terminal" tag changed to "cli", because they don't mean the same thing. On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Kent Fredric wrote: > > On 29 March 2014 09:56, yac wrote: > >> terminal ∩ jabber ∩ client > > > And now you want *only* terminal ter

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC GLEP 1005: Package Tags

2014-03-28 Thread Kent Fredric
On 29 March 2014 09:56, yac wrote: > terminal ∩ jabber ∩ client And now you want *only* terminal terminals, do you have to search for terminal ∩ !( jabber ∪ client ∪ everything ∪ else ) ? Or terminal ∩ emulator ( Which may include terminals for emulators instead of terminal emulators ) --

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC GLEP 1005: Package Tags

2014-03-28 Thread yac
On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 09:39:06 +1300 Kent Fredric wrote: > On 25 March 2014 03:55, Damien Levac wrote: > > > A lot of people already replied to this question: package search. > > > > A trivial example, a user want to know all terminals available in > > portage. Of course he could try a `emerge --

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC GLEP 1005: Package Tags

2014-03-28 Thread Kent Fredric
On 25 March 2014 03:55, Damien Levac wrote: > A lot of people already replied to this question: package search. > > A trivial example, a user want to know all terminals available in portage. > Of course he could try a `emerge --searchdesc terminal`, but then he would > get anything mentioning ter

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Possibility of overriding user defined INSTALL_MASK from an ebuild?

2014-03-28 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 03/27/2014 18:26, Tom Wijsman wrote: > On Thu, 27 Mar 2014 13:43:24 + > "Steven J. Long" wrote: >> it's still rude of you to constantly quote people's email addresses > > Why is it rude? There are a lot of other developers on the list here > that do this as well; so, if you want to see this

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC GLEP 1005: Package Tags

2014-03-28 Thread hasufell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Ciaran McCreesh: > On Fri, 28 Mar 2014 15:46:49 -0400 Wyatt Epp > wrote: >> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Ciaran McCreesh >> wrote: >>> On Thu, 27 Mar 2014 03:53:47 +0100 yac wrote: What I was describing is the difference between fundamen

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC GLEP 1005: Package Tags

2014-03-28 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 28 Mar 2014 15:46:49 -0400 Wyatt Epp wrote: > On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Ciaran McCreesh > wrote: > > On Thu, 27 Mar 2014 03:53:47 +0100 > > yac wrote: > >> What I was describing is the difference between fundamental > >> properties of categories and tags. > > > > You are trying to

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC GLEP 1005: Package Tags

2014-03-28 Thread Wyatt Epp
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Thu, 27 Mar 2014 03:53:47 +0100 > yac wrote: >> What I was describing is the difference between fundamental properties >> of categories and tags. > > You are trying to redefine categories in terms of a concept that they > didn't origina

Re: [gentoo-dev] Future EAPI Idea: post source hook for eclasses

2014-03-28 Thread Kent Fredric
On 29 March 2014 06:12, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > These look a lot like they're just parameters to an eclass... An > alternative approach is to make this explicit, rather than having > zillions of environment variables: > Something I'd *like* to be able to do is have eclass specific keys that map

[gentoo-dev] Maintenance for net-misc/openswan

2014-03-28 Thread Mike Gilbert
I picked up maintenance for net-misc/openswan a coupe of years ago. The project has since been forked by its main maintainer upstream into the "libreswan" project. This seems to be better maintained than the current openswan software. I have added libreswan to the tree and it is what I use on a da

Re: [gentoo-dev] Future EAPI Idea: post source hook for eclasses

2014-03-28 Thread Alec Warner
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Ciaran McCreesh < ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com> wrote: > On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 01:44:06 +1300 > Kent Fredric wrote: > > On 28 March 2014 23:47, Michał Górny wrote: > > > Please paste a real example, it's easier to understand what you're > > > trying to do when w

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC GLEP 1005: Package Tags

2014-03-28 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 27 Mar 2014 03:53:47 +0100 yac wrote: > What I was describing is the difference between fundamental properties > of categories and tags. You are trying to redefine categories in terms of a concept that they didn't originally represent. From a package mangler perspective, categories aren't

Re: [gentoo-dev] Future EAPI Idea: post source hook for eclasses

2014-03-28 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 01:44:06 +1300 Kent Fredric wrote: > On 28 March 2014 23:47, Michał Górny wrote: > > Please paste a real example, it's easier to understand what you're > > trying to do when we see what it does. > > > For the A.1 style: > > MODULE_AUTHOR=DOY > MODULE_VERSION=2.0604 > inheri

Re: [gentoo-dev] Future EAPI Idea: post source hook for eclasses

2014-03-28 Thread Kent Fredric
On 28 March 2014 23:47, Michał Górny wrote: > Please paste a real example, it's easier to understand what you're > trying to do when we see what it does. > For the A.1 style: MODULE_AUTHOR=DOY MODULE_VERSION=2.0604 inherit perl-module ^ from Moose 2.60.400.ebuild , this creates SRC_URI based

Re: [gentoo-dev] Future EAPI Idea: post source hook for eclasses

2014-03-28 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2014-03-28, o godz. 20:11:47 Kent Fredric napisał(a): > I often see one of two patterns: Please paste a real example, it's easier to understand what you're trying to do when we see what it does. -- Best regards, Michał Górny signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Future EAPI Idea: post source hook for eclasses

2014-03-28 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Fri, 28 Mar 2014 20:11:47 +1300 Kent Fredric wrote: > What I keep wanting to have is a hook that triggers after the ebuild > is loaded, defined in the eclass. +1 Yes, please. My habit is to follow A.1 unless I know of the functionality that B.1 would assume, in which case I would put things

[gentoo-dev] Future EAPI Idea: post source hook for eclasses

2014-03-28 Thread Kent Fredric
I often see one of two patterns: Pattern A) Code Before `inherit` to drive behaviour Example A.1 SOME_VALUE="Foo" inherit someclass OTHERVALUE=Bar" inherit someotherclass This is used heavily in things using perl-module.eclass Pattern B) Require either function calls or have a finalising fun