[gentoo-dev] sci-geosciences/googleearth is orphan and needs a dedicated maintainer

2014-01-28 Thread Pacho Ramos
Currently, there is no really working version of it in the tree: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=494624 But due its bumps and current bugs, this needs a maintainer... otherwise, I would treeclean it (the problem is that looks like some people use it, but without none of them willing to ma

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dealing with XDG directories in ebuild environment

2014-01-28 Thread Alexandre Rostovtsev
[Replying again since my mailer messed up my original message.] On Tue, 2014-01-28 at 12:03 -0500, Mike Gilbert wrote: > Option 3: Unset the variables > > This should cause applications to default to locations under ${HOME}. > This could be done in global scope (unless I am overlooking something

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: revisiting our stabilization policy

2014-01-28 Thread Steev Klimaszewski
On Wed, 2014-01-29 at 03:15 +, Duncan wrote: > Tom Wijsman posted on Tue, 28 Jan 2014 14:11:48 +0100 as excerpted: > > [Seven J. Long wrote...] > > >> There's plenty of ways to stay on the bleeding-edge; throwing out the > >> baby with the bathwater will only tip you over it, and bork the dis

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dealing with XDG directories in ebuild environment

2014-01-28 Thread Alexandre Rostovtsev
On January 28, 2014 12:03:04 PM EST, Mike Gilbert wrote: >Option 3: Unset the variables > >This should cause applications to default to locations under ${HOME}. Only those applications that properly comply with standards :) For instance, glib did not start respecting ${HOME} until version 2.36

[gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: revisiting our stabilization policy

2014-01-28 Thread Duncan
Tom Wijsman posted on Tue, 28 Jan 2014 14:11:48 +0100 as excerpted: [Seven J. Long wrote...] >> There's plenty of ways to stay on the bleeding-edge; throwing out the >> baby with the bathwater will only tip you over it, and bork the distro >> for the rest of us, and everyone down the line. > > W

Re: [gentoo-dev] dropping redundant stable keywords

2014-01-28 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Jeroen Roovers wrote: > On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 08:33:05 -0800 > ""Paweł Hajdan, Jr."" wrote: > >> Why not allow maintainers to drop redundant stable and even ~arch >> keywords from their packages? > > This is standard practice already. If there is still pain then m

Re: [gentoo-dev] ekeyword written in python from scratch

2014-01-28 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday, January 28, 2014 05:53:52 Jeroen Roovers wrote: > On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 18:14:54 -0500 Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > It's more obvious with the fancy colouring > > > > if you dislike the color format, then pick a different one. there > > are a large number available. > > I didn't intend

Re: [gentoo-dev] dropping redundant stable keywords

2014-01-28 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 08:33:05 -0800 ""Paweł Hajdan, Jr."" wrote: > Why not allow maintainers to drop redundant stable and even ~arch > keywords from their packages? This is standard practice already. jer

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dealing with XDG directories in ebuild environment

2014-01-28 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Gilles Dartiguelongue wrote: > People are encouraged to provide a prototype implementation of such > eclass in the previously mentioned bug report. > Ok, lets discuss the eclass approach here. The 4 variables we want to deal with are: XDG_DATA_HOME XDG_CONFIG_HOM

Re: [gentoo-dev] dropping redundant stable keywords

2014-01-28 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 08:33:05 -0800 ""Paweł Hajdan, Jr."" wrote: > Why not allow maintainers to drop redundant stable and even ~arch > keywords from their packages? We already do that to a great extent; only removing the last keyword present is a bad idea, because in that case the package would n

Re: [gentoo-dev] dropping redundant stable keywords

2014-01-28 Thread Alex Xu
On 28/01/14 11:33 AM, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." wrote: > Here's a proposal that may address concerns from the long "rfc: > revisiting our stabilization policy" thread. > > It seems at least one of the problems is that with old ebuilds being > stable on slow arches but not the more recent ebuilds, it is

[gentoo-dev] dropping redundant stable keywords

2014-01-28 Thread Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
Here's a proposal that may address concerns from the long "rfc: revisiting our stabilization policy" thread. It seems at least one of the problems is that with old ebuilds being stable on slow arches but not the more recent ebuilds, it is a maintenance burden to keep supporting the old ebuilds eve

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: revisiting our stabilization policy

2014-01-28 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 14:52:59 +0200 Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 28/01/2014 14:37, Steven J. Long wrote: > > I concur that "QA should be focusing on making stable, actually > > stable, not more bleeding edge." That's not a "performance" issue > > as you put it, except in management nuspeek. It's the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: revisiting our stabilization policy

2014-01-28 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 12:37:40 + "Steven J. Long" wrote: > Please set your client not to embed people's email addresses in your > responses: it's spambait in web archives. Thanks. It's as much a spambait as it is listed in the From: header on the web archives; in other words, it are the web ar

[gentoo-dev] Re: Dealing with XDG directories in ebuild environment

2014-01-28 Thread Steven J. Long
Alec Warner wrote: > Sorry, I work on Portage. What I'm saying is that We are free to change the > behavior of *portage* now; rather than waiting for a new EAPI. If an ebuild > needs to define EAPI=eapi-next to 'correctly' use XDG_*, well that is > someone else's can of worms. Agreed: portage can

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: revisiting our stabilization policy

2014-01-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 28/01/2014 14:37, Steven J. Long wrote: > I concur that "QA should be focusing on making stable, actually stable, > not more bleeding edge." That's not a "performance" issue as you put it, > except in management nuspeek. It's the whole bloody point of the distro, > in overarching terms: to test

[gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: revisiting our stabilization policy

2014-01-28 Thread Steven J. Long
Please set your client not to embed people's email addresses in your responses: it's spambait in web archives. Thanks. Tom Wijsman wrote: > "Steven J. Long" wrote: > > Tom Wijsman wrote: > > > "Steven J. Long" wrote: > > > > What? Without a stable tree, Gentoo is useless afaic. > > > > > > It mov

Re: [gentoo-dev] Add support for rsync patches

2014-01-28 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2014-01-28, o godz. 11:59:33 Jauhien Piatlicki napisał(a): > net-misc/rsync upstream provides a tarball with additional patches that > can be useful for some users. I think it would be nice to have them > handled automatically by portage using e.g. USE_EXPAND. > > Of course these patches ca

[gentoo-dev] Add support for rsync patches

2014-01-28 Thread Jauhien Piatlicki
Hi, net-misc/rsync upstream provides a tarball with additional patches that can be useful for some users. I think it would be nice to have them handled automatically by portage using e.g. USE_EXPAND. Of course these patches can be just picked by user an applied using epatch_user, but I think it w