[gentoo-dev] Default USE changes for fortran and mudflap?

2014-01-11 Thread Ryan Hill
While I'm adding USE defaults to toolchain.eclass and moving them out of the profiles, I thought now would be a good time to review a couple default flag settings. mudflap: This is currently enabled by default but I'd like to disable it. It controls libmudflap and the -fmudflap flag. I think the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Feature Request: making thirdpartymirrors easier to manage

2014-01-11 Thread Kent Fredric
On 12 January 2014 08:16, Kent Fredric wrote: > diff <( grep cpan > /var/paludis/repositories/perl-git/profiles/thirdpartymirrors ) <( grep > cpan /usr/portage/profiles/thirdpartymirrors ) > Oh... also, there's a wide variety of location specific CPAN mirrors available that are location-speci

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Feature Request: making thirdpartymirrors easier to manage

2014-01-11 Thread Kent Fredric
On 10 January 2014 17:58, Michał Górny wrote: > > Just to be clear, what is the exact use case for this? I can't think > of a really good reason to manipulate mirror lists in subsequent repos. > For Perl, in ::gentoo , its considered not too optimal to have backpan listed as a mirror, and its un

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: storing predefined INSTALL_MASK directory lists in repos

2014-01-11 Thread Peter Stuge
Duncan wrote: > >> INSTALL_MASK="systemd bash-completion" > >> > >> What are your thoughts? > > > > It seems like this will generally duplicate all -USE flags. > > > > Would it make sense to instead have a single setting which changes the > > meaning of USE to be that everything not USEd is in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Feature Request: making thirdpartymirrors easier to manage

2014-01-11 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Ben Kohler wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > >> I would like to make it a directory instead of a single file, and extend >> the internal syntax. >> > I'm not sure I see much real value in allowing individual profiles to > add/remo

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: storing predefined INSTALL_MASK directory lists in repos

2014-01-11 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2014-01-11, o godz. 19:11:21 Alan McKinnon napisał(a): > On 11/01/2014 18:52, Michał Górny wrote: > > Dnia 2014-01-11, o godz. 18:15:09 > > Alan McKinnon napisał(a): > > > >> A far better method from a user point of view is to install the linguas > >> the user explicitly asked for. Your pr

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: storing predefined INSTALL_MASK directory lists in repos

2014-01-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 11/01/2014 18:52, Michał Górny wrote: > Dnia 2014-01-11, o godz. 18:15:09 > Alan McKinnon napisał(a): > >> A far better method from a user point of view is to install the linguas >> the user explicitly asked for. Your proposal as worded will be taken at >> first glance to mean "install all lin

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: storing predefined INSTALL_MASK directory lists in repos

2014-01-11 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2014-01-11, o godz. 18:15:09 Alan McKinnon napisał(a): > A far better method from a user point of view is to install the linguas > the user explicitly asked for. Your proposal as worded will be taken at > first glance to mean "install all linguas, but not XX" as most users > won't see the MA

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: storing predefined INSTALL_MASK directory lists in repos

2014-01-11 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2014-01-11, o godz. 17:21:46 Luis Ressel napisał(a): > On Sat, 11 Jan 2014 17:01:34 +0100 > Michał Górny wrote: > > > That's a side goal. > > > > I was thinking of something like: > > > > INSTALL_MASK="linguas -linguas_XX" > > > > that would remove all linguas except for language XX.

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: storing predefined INSTALL_MASK directory lists in repos

2014-01-11 Thread Luis Ressel
On Sat, 11 Jan 2014 17:01:34 +0100 Michał Górny wrote: > That's a side goal. > > I was thinking of something like: > > INSTALL_MASK="linguas -linguas_XX" > > that would remove all linguas except for language XX. That would be enough for me. A bit of a duplication of information, but if it e

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: storing predefined INSTALL_MASK directory lists in repos

2014-01-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 11/01/2014 18:01, Michał Górny wrote: > Dnia 2014-01-11, o godz. 16:56:37 > Luis Ressel napisał(a): > >> I've got an additional proposal: It would be interesting if this >> feature could also make use of the LINGUAS var for selectively >> filtering /usr/share/man and and /usr/share/locale, as

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: storing predefined INSTALL_MASK directory lists in repos

2014-01-11 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2014-01-11, o godz. 16:56:37 Luis Ressel napisał(a): > I've got an additional proposal: It would be interesting if this > feature could also make use of the LINGUAS var for selectively > filtering /usr/share/man and and /usr/share/locale, as most ebuilds > don't respect this variable nativel

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: storing predefined INSTALL_MASK directory lists in repos

2014-01-11 Thread Luis Ressel
I've got an additional proposal: It would be interesting if this feature could also make use of the LINGUAS var for selectively filtering /usr/share/man and and /usr/share/locale, as most ebuilds don't respect this variable natively. -- Luis Ressel GPG fpr: F08D 2AF6 655E 25DE 52BC E53D 08F5 7F

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: storing predefined INSTALL_MASK directory lists in repos

2014-01-11 Thread Duncan
Peter Stuge posted on Sat, 11 Jan 2014 12:53:38 +0100 as excerpted: > Michał Górny wrote: >> INSTALL_MASK="systemd bash-completion" >> >> What are your thoughts? > > It seems like this will generally duplicate all -USE flags. > > Would it make sense to instead have a single setting which chan

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage QOS

2014-01-11 Thread Naohiro Aota
Hi, Igor LTHR writes: > Portage QOS > > Hi All, > > What do you think about implementing this: > > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?p=7477494 > > I've system design in my head and could write it down with the > implementation details. > Then may be we could all review it and get to somethi

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: storing predefined INSTALL_MASK directory lists in repos

2014-01-11 Thread Peter Stuge
Michał Górny wrote: > INSTALL_MASK="systemd bash-completion" > > What are your thoughts? It seems like this will generally duplicate all -USE flags. Would it make sense to instead have a single setting which changes the meaning of USE to be that everything not USEd is install-masked? Rather t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Question, Portage QOS

2014-01-11 Thread Roy Bamford
On 2014.01.10 16:48, Igor wrote: > Hello All, > > Thank you for all our feedback! > [snip] > > -- > Best regards, > Igor mailto:lanthrus...@gmail.com > Igor, You don't need anyones permission to start an OSS project. Just do it. If its useful, it will get used. Her

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About pam herd status

2014-01-11 Thread Markos Chandras
On 01/11/2014 11:07 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > If we limit it to the virtual, pam and pambase, I'm happy to stick > maintaining them, the others I don't use, which is why I don't care about > them as much. > > Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes > flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About pam herd status

2014-01-11 Thread Pacho Ramos
El sáb, 11-01-2014 a las 11:07 +, Diego Elio Pettenò escribió: > If we limit it to the virtual, pam and pambase, I'm happy to stick > maintaining them, the others I don't use, which is why I don't care > about them as much. > > Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes > flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://b

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About pam herd status

2014-01-11 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
If we limit it to the virtual, pam and pambase, I'm happy to stick maintaining them, the others I don't use, which is why I don't care about them as much. Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ On 11 January 2014 11:01, Pacho Ramos wrote: > El sáb, 11

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About pam herd status

2014-01-11 Thread Pacho Ramos
El sáb, 11-01-2014 a las 10:57 +, Markos Chandras escribió: > On 01/10/2014 11:14 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > > On 10 January 2014 22:20, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > >> how would moving it to base-system make any difference ? people doing it > >> wrong > >> wouldn't really care which her

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About pam herd status

2014-01-11 Thread Markos Chandras
On 01/10/2014 11:14 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > On 10 January 2014 22:20, Mike Frysinger wrote: > >> how would moving it to base-system make any difference ? people doing it >> wrong >> wouldn't really care which herd pam itself is owned by. >> > > I'm not saying it makes a difference, sorr

[gentoo-dev] RFC: storing predefined INSTALL_MASK directory lists in repos

2014-01-11 Thread Michał Górny
Hello, all. Some time ago I wrote a small tool called install-mask. As the name suggests, it was intended to help with manipulating INSTALL_MASK. I think that its most important feature was ability to use pre-defined mask lists to easily mask unwanted directories without getting into the details.