Dnia 2013-09-13, o godz. 19:16:06
William Hubbs napisał(a):
> OpenRC currently has a public api, consisting of librc and libeinfo
> (rc.h and einfo.h are the headers); however, I do not know of any
> released software that uses these, so, if there is nothing, I am
> considering making this code p
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 5:01 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 04:27:42PM -0400, Mike Gilbert wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 4:04 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
>> > On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 02:22:02PM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
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On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 04:27:42PM -0400, Mike Gilbert wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 4:04 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 02:22:02PM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
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> >> On 24/09/13 02:15 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
On 25.09.2013 20:38, Mike Gilbert wrote:
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> Apologies if this has been covered elsewhere, but how are we dealing
> with herds.xml?
>
> Many herds are compiled from the project pages using
> element. How does that work if the project pages
> are going away?
>
The /proj/en/foo entries will be r
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 4:04 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 02:22:02PM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
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>> On 24/09/13 02:15 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
>> > On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 03:21:07PM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
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On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 02:22:02PM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
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> On 24/09/13 02:15 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> > On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 03:21:07PM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
> >> Out of curiosity, what is the reasoning behind making thes
On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 15:37:34 -0400
Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 3:16 PM, William Hubbs
> wrote:
> > It seems a bit long to me, but I'm not sure how to make it any
> > shorter if we include the information about why this is happening.
>
> I would use the newspaper article approa
On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 20:15:57 +0200
Michał Górny wrote:
> Dnia 2013-09-25, o godz. 14:38:14
> Tom Wijsman napisał(a):
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> > On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 08:36:56 +0200
> > Martin Gysel wrote:
> >
> > > Am 24.09.2013 19:49, schrieb hasufell:
> > > > I wonder if it would make any sense to take the effort
On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 20:07:42 +0200
Michał Górny wrote:
> Dnia 2013-09-25, o godz. 14:29:52
> Tom Wijsman napisał(a):
>
> > > > > 3) adding some more ugly awful magic that will make binary
> > > > > packages even less useful.
> > > >
> > > > For binary packages a choice has to be made; trying t
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 3:16 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> It seems a bit long to me, but I'm not sure how to make it any shorter
> if we include the information about why this is happening.
I would use the newspaper article approach - put the most important
and actionable material at the top, and s
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 03:19:00PM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
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> On 25/09/13 03:16 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> > Due to many upstream changes, properly supporting Linux systems
> > that have /usr missing at boot time has become increasingly
>
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On 25/09/13 03:16 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> Due to many upstream changes, properly supporting Linux systems
> that have /usr missing at boot time has become increasingly
> difficult. Despite all our efforts, it already breaks in some
> exotic config
All,
here is my latest update, again based on feedback from the list.
It seems a bit long to me, but I'm not sure how to make it any shorter
if we include the information about why this is happening.
Thoughts?
William
Title: Separate /usr on Linux requires initramfs
Author: William Hubbs
Conte
On 09/19/2013 01:10 PM, Alex Legler wrote:
> As discussed [1] on -dev a while ago, project pages will now be moving
> to wiki.gentoo.org.
>
> From now on, you must not create new documents or projects in CVS/on
> www.gentoo.org.
> Existing projects are asked to move the contents of their project p
Dnia 2013-09-25, o godz. 14:38:14
Tom Wijsman napisał(a):
> On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 08:36:56 +0200
> Martin Gysel wrote:
>
> > Am 24.09.2013 19:49, schrieb hasufell:
> > > I wonder if it would make any sense to take the effort to convert
> > > markdown docs to html format before installing them.
>
Dnia 2013-09-25, o godz. 14:29:52
Tom Wijsman napisał(a):
> > > > 3) adding some more ugly awful magic that will make binary
> > > > packages even less useful.
> > >
> > > For binary packages a choice has to be made; trying to solve things
> > > for binary packages is like discussing something t
Am Mittwoch, 25. September 2013, 11:39:20 schrieb Ian Stakenvicius:
> On 25/09/13 11:27 AM, Sven Eden wrote:
> > Am Mittwoch, 25. September 2013, 11:05:24 schrieb Ian
> >
> > Stakenvicius:
> >> On 25/09/13 10:51 AM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> >>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Ian Stakenvicius
> >>>
On 9/25/13 9:01 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
> However, if it's possible to keep the rest of the tree using one
> system package of v8 (or very small subset), and just maintain
> that(those) via security backports, would that be viable?
In the current state of v8, no.
Latest security-supported v8
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On 25/09/13 11:52 AM, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." wrote:
> On 9/25/13 2:44 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 7:46 PM, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
>> wrote:
>>> Perfect.
>>
>> Seriously? "Perfect" because one person agrees with you?
>>
>> Si
On 9/25/13 1:16 AM, Peter Volkov wrote:
> But could you comment on how hard it'll be to slot v8 shared library?
> Keeping libraries bundled is a security nightmare.
Slotting v8 would be hugely impractical and rather a misuse of SLOTs.
Slotting makes sense when there are at most 2-3 major versions
On 9/25/13 2:44 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 7:46 PM, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
> wrote:
>> Perfect.
>
> Seriously? "Perfect" because one person agrees with you?
>
> Sigh.
Look at the API breaks and talk to v8 upstream - if you have a better
solution to actual bugs that peop
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On 25/09/13 11:27 AM, Sven Eden wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, 25. September 2013, 11:05:24 schrieb Ian
> Stakenvicius:
>> On 25/09/13 10:51 AM, Rich Freeman wrote:
>>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Ian Stakenvicius
>>>
>>>
>>> wrote:
William, I th
Am Mittwoch, 25. September 2013, 11:05:24 schrieb Ian Stakenvicius:
> On 25/09/13 10:51 AM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Ian Stakenvicius
> >
> > wrote:
> >> William, I think what Tom was mentioning here is that he thinks
> >> a one-sentence answering the "Why" would
On 25/09/2013 16:51, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
>> William, I think what Tom was mentioning here is that he thinks a
>> one-sentence answering the "Why" would be a good idea to have in the
>> news item, so users that don't have a clue on all of
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On 25/09/13 10:51 AM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Ian Stakenvicius
> wrote:
>> William, I think what Tom was mentioning here is that he thinks
>> a one-sentence answering the "Why" would be a good idea to have
>> in the n
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
> William, I think what Tom was mentioning here is that he thinks a
> one-sentence answering the "Why" would be a good idea to have in the
> news item, so users that don't have a clue on all of these sep-/usr
> issues will get an idea of wh
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William Hubbs schrieb:
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 02:55:49AM +0200, Tom Wijsman wrote:
>> Makes me wonder if the "Why?" question should be left unanswered;
>> I'm also not quite sure if we can produce a short answer, can the
>> actual problem be summa
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On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 08:36:56 +0200
Martin Gysel wrote:
> Am 24.09.2013 19:49, schrieb hasufell:
> > I wonder if it would make any sense to take the effort to convert
> > markdown docs to html format before installing them.
> >
>
> following that logic we should also consider converting all man
On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 09:57:26 +0200
Michał Górny wrote:
> Dnia 2013-09-25, o godz. 00:30:27
> Tom Wijsman napisał(a):
>
> > On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 00:07:15 +0200
> > Michał Górny wrote:
> >
> > Why do I need a browser, a PDF reader and a Markdown viewer and
> > possibly more clients to read my do
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 4:35 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
>
>>
>> What about busybox[sep-usr]? Is that still supported or is everyone with
>> separate /usr forced to use an initramfs?
>
> I'd say it's supported as long as it gives a compatible end result.
> I suspect that the number of cases supported
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 7:46 PM, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
wrote:
> Perfect.
Seriously? "Perfect" because one person agrees with you?
Sigh.
Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes
flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/
Dnia 2013-09-25, o godz. 10:06:43
Thomas Sachau napisał(a):
> William Hubbs schrieb:
> > On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 02:55:49AM +0200, Tom Wijsman wrote:
> >> Makes me wonder if the "Why?" question should be left unanswered; I'm
> >> also not quite sure if we can produce a short answer, can the actua
On 25/09/13 11:06, Thomas Sachau wrote:
William Hubbs schrieb:
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 02:55:49AM +0200, Tom Wijsman wrote:
Makes me wonder if the "Why?" question should be left unanswered; I'm
also not quite sure if we can produce a short answer, can the actual
problem be summarized in one sho
В Вт, 24/09/2013 в 11:46 -0700, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." пишет:
> On 9/22/13 5:24 PM, Peter Stuge wrote:
> > "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." wrote:
> >> "compiling with versions of v8 other than what is included is not
> >> currently supported."
> > ..
> >> For now V8 upstream gives no guarantees about API/ABI stab
William Hubbs schrieb:
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 02:55:49AM +0200, Tom Wijsman wrote:
>> Makes me wonder if the "Why?" question should be left unanswered; I'm
>> also not quite sure if we can produce a short answer, can the actual
>> problem be summarized in one short clear sentence at all?
>
> I
Dnia 2013-09-25, o godz. 00:30:27
Tom Wijsman napisał(a):
> On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 00:07:15 +0200
> Michał Górny wrote:
>
> Why do I need a browser, a PDF reader and a Markdown viewer and
> possibly more clients to read my documentation in a formatted way?
And why do I need a special HTML-formatt
24.09.2013 23:07, Markos Chandras пишет:
> On 09/24/2013 07:28 PM, Agostino Sarubbo wrote:
>> On 09/23/2013 22:41, Markos Chandras wrote:
>>> (unless of course you want to increase your number of cvs commits
>>> which is a worrying argument on its own)
>
>> 11:16 #gentoo-bugs: <+bonsaikitten> ago:
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