Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Dropping static libs support from cryptsetup and lvm2

2013-07-31 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 31-07-2013 a las 22:32 -0400, Alexandre Rostovtsev escribió: > On Wed, 2013-07-31 at 22:12 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > > Honestly, I don't think maintainers should be asked to justify > > features unless they're actually causing some kind of conflict. > > > > If Robin wants to support USE

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Dropping static libs support from cryptsetup and lvm2

2013-07-31 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 10:32:56PM -0400, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote: > On Wed, 2013-07-31 at 22:12 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > > Honestly, I don't think maintainers should be asked to justify > > features unless they're actually causing some kind of conflict. > > > > If Robin wants to support US

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Dropping static libs support from cryptsetup and lvm2

2013-07-31 Thread William Hubbs
On Thu, Aug 01, 2013 at 04:22:29AM +0200, Luca Barbato wrote: > On 01/08/13 04:03, William Hubbs wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 07:42:26PM +, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > >> As both a member of base-system, and the lvm2 maintainer, I'm going to > >> go and look at fixing them, because I'd pref

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Dropping static libs support from cryptsetup and lvm2

2013-07-31 Thread Alexandre Rostovtsev
On Wed, 2013-07-31 at 22:12 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > Honestly, I don't think maintainers should be asked to justify > features unless they're actually causing some kind of conflict. > > If Robin wants to support USE=static for lvm2, he can do so. If it > somehow caused problems with other pac

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Dropping static libs support from cryptsetup and lvm2

2013-07-31 Thread Luca Barbato
On 01/08/13 04:03, William Hubbs wrote: > On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 07:42:26PM +, Robin H. Johnson wrote: >> As both a member of base-system, and the lvm2 maintainer, I'm going to >> go and look at fixing them, because I'd prefer to keep them available as >> static builds. > > Robin, > > I'm cu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Dropping static libs support from cryptsetup and lvm2

2013-07-31 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 10:03 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 07:42:26PM +, Robin H. Johnson wrote: >> As both a member of base-system, and the lvm2 maintainer, I'm going to >> go and look at fixing them, because I'd prefer to keep them available as >> static builds. > > I'm

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Dropping static libs support from cryptsetup and lvm2

2013-07-31 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 07:42:26PM +, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > As both a member of base-system, and the lvm2 maintainer, I'm going to > go and look at fixing them, because I'd prefer to keep them available as > static builds. Robin, I'm curious what the use case for keeping them as static bu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Base profile changes should be announced/discussed on this list.

2013-07-31 Thread Walter Dnes
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 12:58:37PM +0200, Michael Weber wrote > On 07/31/2013 11:53 AM, Walter Dnes wrote: > > Hold on a minute. There is a *MAJOR* difference between "gpm" the USE > > flag, and sys-libs/gpm the mouse server. > [...] > > If there was a move afoot to remove sys-libs/gpm from th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Base profile changes should be announced/discussed on this list.

2013-07-31 Thread Walter Dnes
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 12:58:37PM +0200, Michael Weber wrote > On 07/31/2013 11:53 AM, Walter Dnes wrote: > > Hold on a minute. There is a *MAJOR* difference between "gpm" the USE > > flag, and sys-libs/gpm the mouse server. > [...] > > If there was a move afoot to remove sys-libs/gpm from th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Dropping static libs support from cryptsetup and lvm2

2013-07-31 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 31-07-2013 a las 19:42 +, Robin H. Johnson escribió: > As both a member of base-system, and the lvm2 maintainer, I'm going to > go and look at fixing them, because I'd prefer to keep them available as > static builds. > But, what is requiring it? https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Dropping static libs support from cryptsetup and lvm2

2013-07-31 Thread Robin H. Johnson
As both a member of base-system, and the lvm2 maintainer, I'm going to go and look at fixing them, because I'd prefer to keep them available as static builds. On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 09:07:39PM +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote: > El mar, 30-07-2013 a las 11:42 +0300, Samuli Suominen escribió: > > On 29/07

Re: [gentoo-dev] How to know packages providing files under some directory

2013-07-31 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 31-07-2013 a las 15:19 -0400, Mike Gilbert escribió: > On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > El mié, 31-07-2013 a las 12:11 -0700, Zac Medico escribió: > >> On 07/31/2013 12:03 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > >> > I would like to know if there is any kind of DB to check for pack

Re: [gentoo-dev] How to know packages providing files under some directory

2013-07-31 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > El mié, 31-07-2013 a las 12:11 -0700, Zac Medico escribió: >> On 07/31/2013 12:03 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: >> > I would like to know if there is any kind of DB to check for packages >> > providing files under a directory. Does any exist? >> >> po

Re: [gentoo-dev] How to know packages providing files under some directory

2013-07-31 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 31-07-2013 a las 12:11 -0700, Zac Medico escribió: > On 07/31/2013 12:03 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > I would like to know if there is any kind of DB to check for packages > > providing files under a directory. Does any exist? > > portageq owners / /path/to/directory But, doesn't it force m

Re: [gentoo-dev] How to know packages providing files under some directory

2013-07-31 Thread Zac Medico
On 07/31/2013 12:03 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > I would like to know if there is any kind of DB to check for packages > providing files under a directory. Does any exist? portageq owners / /path/to/directory -- Thanks, Zac

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Dropping static libs support from cryptsetup and lvm2

2013-07-31 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mar, 30-07-2013 a las 11:42 +0300, Samuli Suominen escribió: > On 29/07/13 23:57, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > Hello > > > > As discussed at: > > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=478476 > > > > Upstream is dropping static libs from udev and, then, sys-apps/udev is > > currently reverting that c

[gentoo-dev] How to know packages providing files under some directory

2013-07-31 Thread Pacho Ramos
I would like to know if there is any kind of DB to check for packages providing files under a directory. Does any exist? Thanks

Re: [gentoo-dev] Adding ABI_MIPS USE_EXPAND

2013-07-31 Thread Matt Turner
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 5:12 AM, Jeroen Roovers wrote: > On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:04:56 -0700 > Matt Turner wrote: > >> I committed it last night before your email. > > # Keep it sorted. Please do not add anything without prior > discussion # on > gentoo-dev. > n32 > n64 > o32 > > This is not a val

Re: [gentoo-dev] s/disk space/drive space

2013-07-31 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 30/07/13 10:53 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:40 AM, viv...@gmail.com > wrote: >> does "storage space" make everyone happy? >> > > rich0 is confused and looks over at the "storage space" he keeps > his bicycles in... > '

[gentoo-dev] Re: s/disk space/drive space

2013-07-31 Thread Chris Brannon
Jeroen Roovers writes: > Also, "drive space" would be dead wrong. A drive[1] is a device which > holds a storage medium (often a disk, as in, you know, a "disk drive"). > "Solid-state drive" is even more confusing than "solid-state disk" (and > both are common parlance). In the interest of lingu

Re: [gentoo-dev] PHP_TARGETS vs PYTHON_TARGETS different grammar, why?

2013-07-31 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 3:38 AM, Ole Markus With wrote: > I don't really care what the separator is. The reason I chose dash for > separation major/minor version was simply to distinguish between the > value and variable part of USE_EXPAND. Just seemed natural at the time. > I think a hyphen/dash

[gentoo-dev] Re: Base profile changes should be announced/discussed on this list.

2013-07-31 Thread Duncan
Walter Dnes posted on Wed, 31 Jul 2013 05:53:50 -0400 as excerpted: > Hold on a minute. There is a *MAJOR* difference between "gpm" the USE > flag, and sys-libs/gpm the mouse server. I'm one of those weird guys > who starts USE with "-*". Me too. > And I do not have "gpm" the USE flag enabled.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Base profile changes should be announced/discussed on this list.

2013-07-31 Thread Douglas Freed
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 5:53 AM, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 08:21:20AM +0200, Michael Weber wrote >> Mostly everything is configurable, and revertable as user - granted. >> >> I'd like to see a announcement and an optional discussion on this list >> if base profile gets changed [

Re: [gentoo-dev] Adding ABI_MIPS USE_EXPAND

2013-07-31 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:04:56 -0700 Matt Turner wrote: > I committed it last night before your email. # Keep it sorted. Please do not add anything without prior discussion # on gentoo-dev. n32 n64 o32 This is not a valid format for a .desc file. You should use: - jer

Re: [gentoo-dev] Base profile changes should be announced/discussed on this list.

2013-07-31 Thread Michael Weber
On 07/31/2013 11:53 AM, Walter Dnes wrote: > Hold on a minute. There is a *MAJOR* difference between "gpm" the USE > flag, and sys-libs/gpm the mouse server. [...] > If there was a move afoot to remove sys-libs/gpm from the install ISO, > I would be part of the crowd up in arms about this. It

[gentoo-dev] New eclass: db-use-r1

2013-07-31 Thread Polynomial-C
Hi list, I'd like to propose a new eclass "db-use-r1" [1]. While working on the dev-libs/Ice package I found it to fail with sys- libs/db:6.0 (see [2]) and I have found no way to use current db-use.eclass to make Ice compile against an older sys-libs/db slot if db:6.0 is installed. So I'd like

Re: [gentoo-dev] Base profile changes should be announced/discussed on this list.

2013-07-31 Thread Walter Dnes
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 08:21:20AM +0200, Michael Weber wrote > Mostly everything is configurable, and revertable as user - granted. > > I'd like to see a announcement and an optional discussion on this list > if base profile gets changed [0] - current case bug 449364 [1]. > > I'm not opposed to

Re: [gentoo-dev] PHP_TARGETS vs PYTHON_TARGETS different grammar, why?

2013-07-31 Thread Michał Górny
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Dnia 2013-07-31, o godz. 09:38:20 Ole Markus With napisał(a): > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 07/28/2013 06:54 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > > Because it would require us to change a whole load more than just > > the tar

Re: [gentoo-dev] Base profile changes should be announced/discussed on this list.

2013-07-31 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Michael Weber wrote: > I'd like to see a announcement and an optional discussion on this list > if base profile gets changed [0] - current case bug 449364 [1]. I think that makes a lot of sense as a guideline. To me, it's a bit weird to change a USE flag default f

Re: [gentoo-dev] PHP_TARGETS vs PYTHON_TARGETS different grammar, why?

2013-07-31 Thread Ole Markus With
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/28/2013 06:54 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > Because it would require us to change a whole load more than just > the targets variable. > This is sort of the same for PHP. We need to know the major and minor version based on the flag value. We