[gentoo-dev] Base profile changes should be announced/discussed on this list.

2013-07-30 Thread Michael Weber
Mostly everything is configurable, and revertable as user - granted. I'd like to see a announcement and an optional discussion on this list if base profile gets changed [0] - current case bug 449364 [1]. I'm not opposed to the specific change, or base system changes in general, but I don't like s

[gentoo-dev] media-tv/xmltv bugs

2013-07-30 Thread Matt Turner
All versions of xmltv in the tree are EAPI=0. It needs a version bump (bug 288927), an updated home page (bug 325437), and to be ported to EAPI=5 and stabilized (bug 479056). Anyone use it and want to handle these bugs?

Re: [gentoo-dev] s/disk space/drive space

2013-07-30 Thread Walter Dnes
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:00:26PM +0200, Jeroen Roovers wrote > On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 10:53:11 -0400 > Rich Freeman wrote: > > > On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:40 AM, viv...@gmail.com > > wrote: > > > does "storage space" make everyone happy? > > > > > > > rich0 is confused and looks over at the "st

Re: [gentoo-dev] s/disk space/drive space

2013-07-30 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 10:53:11 -0400 Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:40 AM, viv...@gmail.com > wrote: > > does "storage space" make everyone happy? > > > > rich0 is confused and looks over at the "storage space" he keeps his > bicycles in... So what colour would your storage spa

Re: [gentoo-dev] Adding ABI_MIPS USE_EXPAND

2013-07-30 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2013-07-30, o godz. 09:04:56 Matt Turner napisał(a): > On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 12:44 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > > Dnia 2013-07-29, o godz. 17:21:15 > > Matt Turner napisał(a): > > > >> Any objections to me adding an ABI_MIPS USE_EXPAND variable so that I > >> can take advantage of the multi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Adding ABI_MIPS USE_EXPAND

2013-07-30 Thread Matt Turner
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 12:44 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > Dnia 2013-07-29, o godz. 17:21:15 > Matt Turner napisał(a): > >> Any objections to me adding an ABI_MIPS USE_EXPAND variable so that I >> can take advantage of the multilib work on mips? > > But please sent the patches for a quick review fir

Re: [gentoo-dev] s/disk space/drive space

2013-07-30 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:40 AM, viv...@gmail.com wrote: > does "storage space" make everyone happy? > rich0 is confused and looks over at the "storage space" he keeps his bicycles in...

Re: [gentoo-dev] s/disk space/drive space

2013-07-30 Thread viv...@gmail.com
On 07/30/13 15:03, Alexander Berntsen wrote: > On 30/07/13 14:55, Douglas Freed wrote: > >> How is it wrong? > I don't have a disk so informing me that I don't have enough disk space > does not make any sense.. > > I think my suggestion and its justification has been made clear, so I > will not pro

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: s/disk space/drive space

2013-07-30 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Tue, 30 Jul 2013, Duncan wrote: > OTOH, the "free space" or "space available" suggestions I saw elsewhere > do make a lot of sense and avoid both the "disc" and "mechanical drive" > implications. It's also closer to the common LANG=C expando of ENOSPC. Whatever the underlying physical t

[gentoo-dev] Re: s/disk space/drive space

2013-07-30 Thread Duncan
Ulrich Mueller posted on Tue, 30 Jul 2013 14:57:52 +0200 as excerpted: >> On Tue, 30 Jul 2013, Alexander Berntsen wrote: > >> On 30/07/13 14:12, Alex Legler wrote: >>> 'disk space' is a perfectly valid term even if you have fancy solid >>> state drives these days. It is an established term in

Re: [gentoo-dev] s/disk space/drive space

2013-07-30 Thread Alexander Berntsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 30/07/13 14:55, Douglas Freed wrote: >> How is it wrong? I don't have a disk so informing me that I don't have enough disk space does not make any sense.. I think my suggestion and its justification has been made clear, so I will not proceed to f

Re: [gentoo-dev] s/disk space/drive space

2013-07-30 Thread Michael Weber
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 07/30/2013 01:50 PM, Alexander Berntsen wrote: > For future reference, please use "drive space" rather than "disk > space". This includes in eclasses like check-reqs. Non-technical stuff -> wrong list. Stop that now. - -- Michael Weber Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] s/disk space/drive space

2013-07-30 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Tue, 30 Jul 2013, Alexander Berntsen wrote: > On 30/07/13 14:12, Alex Legler wrote: >> 'disk space' is a perfectly valid term even if you have fancy solid >> state drives these days. It is an established term in technical >> documentation that everyone understands even if you don't >> phy

Re: [gentoo-dev] s/disk space/drive space

2013-07-30 Thread Douglas Freed
On Jul 30, 2013 8:19 AM, "Alexander Berntsen" wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 30/07/13 14:12, Alex Legler wrote: > > I don't think you're using that right. You get to make statements > > "for future reference" if you actually have authority to tell > > people wh

Re: [gentoo-dev] perl herd needs your help

2013-07-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 30/07/2013 13:18, Mikle Kolyada wrote: > Hi folks! > > We need new active devs. Now we have ~200 bugs assigned to perl, but we > have new tracker too. (https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=478714). > > 469 packages to update to EAPI >= 4. We have no enough time/resources to > do it singly.

Re: [gentoo-dev] s/disk space/drive space

2013-07-30 Thread Alexander Berntsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 30/07/13 14:12, Alex Legler wrote: > I don't think you're using that right. You get to make statements > "for future reference" if you actually have authority to tell > people what to do. Relax. There's even a "please" in there. > 'disk space' i

Re: [gentoo-dev] s/disk space/drive space

2013-07-30 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Alex Legler wrote: > On 30.07.2013 13:50, Alexander Berntsen wrote: >> For future reference, > > I don't think you're using that right. You get to make statements "for > future reference" if you actually have authority to tell people what to do. +1. Also, providin

Re: [gentoo-dev] s/disk space/drive space

2013-07-30 Thread Alex Legler
On 30.07.2013 13:50, Alexander Berntsen wrote: > For future reference, I don't think you're using that right. You get to make statements "for future reference" if you actually have authority to tell people what to do. > please use "drive space" rather than "disk > space". This includes in eclasse

Re: [gentoo-dev] s/disk space/drive space

2013-07-30 Thread Alexander Berntsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 30/07/13 14:00, Michał Górny wrote: > Rationale? I don't have a disk - -- Alexander alexan...@plaimi.net http://plaimi.net/~alexander -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.20 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http:/

Re: [gentoo-dev] s/disk space/drive space

2013-07-30 Thread Michał Górny
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Dnia 2013-07-30, o godz. 13:50:03 Alexander Berntsen napisał(a): > For future reference, please use "drive space" rather than "disk > space". This includes in eclasses like check-reqs. Rationale? - -- Best regards, Michał Górny -BEGIN PGP SI

[gentoo-dev] s/disk space/drive space

2013-07-30 Thread Alexander Berntsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 For future reference, please use "drive space" rather than "disk space". This includes in eclasses like check-reqs. - -- Alexander alexan...@plaimi.net http://plaimi.net/~alexander -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.20 (GNU/Linux) Com

[gentoo-dev] perl herd needs your help

2013-07-30 Thread Mikle Kolyada
Hi folks! We need new active devs. Now we have ~200 bugs assigned to perl, but we have new tracker too. (https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=478714). 469 packages to update to EAPI >= 4. We have no enough time/resources to do it singly. Please help us! -- Best regards, Mikle Kolyada. Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Odd git format-patch behavior

2013-07-30 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Tue, 30 Jul 2013, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 2:47 AM, Ciaran McCreesh > wrote: >> The log doesn't give you a linear path. Use --decorate --graph to >> avoid the illusion. > Understood. I think we're just quipping over the definition of > "linear path" though. > If h

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: bertini license

2013-07-30 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 4:40 AM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > Thomas Kahle posted on Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:58:58 -0600 as excerpted: >> 3. Conveying Modified Versions. >> >> You may modify the Program for your private use only. You may not >> convey, in any manner, a modified version of th

[gentoo-dev] Re: Dropping static libs support from cryptsetup and lvm2

2013-07-30 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 29/07/13 23:57, Pacho Ramos wrote: Hello As discussed at: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=478476 Upstream is dropping static libs from udev and, then, sys-apps/udev is currently reverting that commit downstream (even if upstream says some problems could appear in the future as nobody

Re: [gentoo-dev] Odd git format-patch behavior

2013-07-30 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 2:47 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 22:27:31 -0400 > Rich Freeman wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Ulrich Mueller >> wrote: >> > Is the history from the v0.26.0 tag to the tip of the branch linear? >> > If it contains merge commits, then git f

[gentoo-dev] Re: bertini license

2013-07-30 Thread Duncan
Thomas Kahle posted on Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:58:58 -0600 as excerpted: > I just added the license 'bertini' to the non-free group. Bertini is a > math software distributed in source form but with restriction on > redistribution (no fee is allowed, no modifications may be > redisitributed). The way

Re: [gentoo-dev] Adding ABI_MIPS USE_EXPAND

2013-07-30 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2013-07-29, o godz. 17:21:15 Matt Turner napisał(a): > Any objections to me adding an ABI_MIPS USE_EXPAND variable so that I > can take advantage of the multilib work on mips? But please sent the patches for a quick review first. -- Best regards, Michał Górny signature.asc Description: