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On 06/22/2013 06:11 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
> El sáb, 22-06-2013 a las 00:06 +, Robin H. Johnson escribió:
> [...]
>> I'm not going into review systems here at all, I'm simply trying to have
>> a policy of what changes are welcomed/blocked WITHOUT i
On 6/20/13 2:16 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
> Doing test signatures won't cover all failures.
Do you know an example? The only one I'm aware of is when a test
signature is made very close to the expiration date, and then the real
signature would be done after it.
> IMHO the best thing to do would be
On 05/29/2013 09:55 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 09:56:00PM +0200, Tom Wijsman wrote:
>>> There are a couple of other possible approaches...
>>>
>>> 1) If the 2 systems can achieve peacefull co-existance (i.e.
>>> no identically-named files with different contents) then simpl
On Saturday 22 June 2013 06:20:22 Michael Weber wrote:
> But in every single metadata? Can I get a script for my 160 personal
> edits, pls?
that's why the default is "do it". if you don't trust other people to do it,
then yes, you get pain in having to maintain all your metadata.xml files with
On Monday 17 June 2013 01:55:09 Mike Frysinger wrote:
> i wish we could merge with the file detection in unpack_makeself somehow
this patch should unify that aspect
-mike
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On 06/22/2013 12:07 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
> After talking with WilliamH yesterday, I have this opinion:
> - Playing with /sbin/init (instead of /sbin/einit) has two interesting
> advantages:
> 1. For example, I now have init=/sbin/e4rat-preload in my grub.conf, if
> I do a typo, it would fallback
On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 05:13:01PM +0200, hasufell wrote:
> On 06/22/2013 03:42 AM, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> >
> > So we have:
> > Who = {ANYTHING_GOES, REQUIRES_DEV, REQUIRES_HERD, REQUIRES_MAINTAINER}
> > What = {NONE, TRIVIAL, MINOR_FEATURES, VERSION_BUMP, MAJOR_FEATURES}
> While looking at it
On 06/22/2013 03:42 AM, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
>
> So we have:
> Who = {ANYTHING_GOES, REQUIRES_DEV, REQUIRES_HERD, REQUIRES_MAINTAINER}
> What = {NONE, TRIVIAL, MINOR_FEATURES, VERSION_BUMP, MAJOR_FEATURES}
>
While looking at it... what means TRIVIAL? Trivial change, trivial bug?
In my unders
On 22/06/2013 11:42, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
This needs to be in the above data:
So we have:
Who = {ANYTHING_GOES, REQUIRES_DEV, REQUIRES_HERD, REQUIRES_MAINTAINER}
What = {NONE, TRIVIAL, MINOR_FEATURES, VERSION_BUMP, MAJOR_FEATURES}
So most of my packages might be coded with:
- If you're a
On 06/22/2013 01:23 PM, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote:
> and nobody is forced to install eselect-init
That was already demanded earlier in this discussion, but I don't see
any response from the initiators of this idea (possible I just missed it).
Anyway... if they do such a global change without discu
On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 7:13 AM, Michael Weber wrote:
> === kexec ===
> speaking of panic. I've never actually used it, but newer kernels
> support kexec and in conjunction with pre-loaded panic-images[1] and
> corresponding (compiled-in) initramfs, it'd be possible to have an
> recovery shell. fo
If we're to support sysvinit and systemd at the same time, let each use
their upstream paths. This means sysvinit gets /sbin/init.
This also means that business can continue as usual, and nobody is forced
to install eselect-init. The current system works for users who don't care
or aren't aware of
On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 3:49 AM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote:
> Semantic-desktop: Just so you guys know, as I said, I need semantic-
> desktop about as much as I need another hole in my head, so I'm **VERY**
> not happy with the 4.11 changes...
I believe this was announced - the reason the
On 06/22/2013 12:07 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
> After talking with WilliamH yesterday, I have this opinion:
> - Playing with /sbin/init (instead of /sbin/einit) has two interesting
> advantages:
> 1. For example, I now have init=/sbin/e4rat-preload in my grub.conf, if
> I do a typo, it would fallback
On Sat, 22 Jun 2013 12:20:22 +0200
Michael Weber wrote:
> But in every single metadata? Can I get a script for my 160 personal
> edits, pls?
You can find your metadata files with
`grep -r --include 'metadata.xml' \>x...@gentoo.org\< /usr/portage -l`
See "Inserting Content using sed" [1] on ho
On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 5:00 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
> Shouldn't this be REQUIRES_TEAM instead? A "herd" used to be a
> collection of packages, whereas the devs maintaining them were called
> a team. Or don't we care about this distinction any more?
Certainly when I was recruited this distincti
On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 6:20 AM, Michael Weber wrote:
> Bottom line: I think we need more of a culture of mutual trust than a
> ton of metadata.
>
I have to agree with this. The culture should be that we're doing
this work FOR GENTOO. Sure, we're getting benefits out of it as well
so it should
On Sat, 22 Jun 2013 01:42:13 +
"Robin H. Johnson" wrote:
> So we have:
> Who = {ANYTHING_GOES, REQUIRES_DEV, REQUIRES_HERD,
> REQUIRES_MAINTAINER} What = {NONE, TRIVIAL, MINOR_FEATURES,
> VERSION_BUMP, MAJOR_FEATURES}
Why is there a NONE in What? Shouldn't it be NONE by default or do we
want
On 06/22/2013 11:01 AM, hasufell wrote:
> On 06/22/2013 03:42 AM, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
>> On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 09:06:30PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
>>> On Friday 21 June 2013 20:26:03 Robin H. Johnson wrote:
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 08:17:38PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
>> I'm no
On 22.06.2013 11:20, Markos Chandras wrote:
> On 16 June 2013 02:21, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
>>> Special pages and contents
>> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/qa/treecleaners/maintainer-needed.xml
>
> Since I am the one generating this one, I don't think it makes sense
> to move it into a git repo
El sáb, 22-06-2013 a las 00:06 +, Robin H. Johnson escribió:
[...]
> I'm not going into review systems here at all, I'm simply trying to have
> a policy of what changes are welcomed/blocked WITHOUT interaction from
> the listed maintainer(s) of a given package/herd.
[...]
In my case I would li
After talking with WilliamH yesterday, I have this opinion:
- Playing with /sbin/init (instead of /sbin/einit) has two interesting
advantages:
1. For example, I now have init=/sbin/e4rat-preload in my grub.conf, if
I do a typo, it would fallback to /sbin/init. If /sbin/init is provided
by sysvinit,
On 06/22/2013 11:38 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
>> On Sat, 22 Jun 2013, hasufell wrote:
>
>>> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/herd
>>> a number of animals of one kind kept together under human control
>
>> On that very link:
>> a group of people usually having a common bond
>
> That
> I wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Jun 2013, Robin H Johnson wrote:
>> So we have:
>> Who = {ANYTHING_GOES, REQUIRES_DEV, REQUIRES_HERD, REQUIRES_MAINTAINER}
>> What = {NONE, TRIVIAL, MINOR_FEATURES, VERSION_BUMP, MAJOR_FEATURES}
>> So most of my packages might be coded with:
>>
>>
>> - If you're
> On Sat, 22 Jun 2013, hasufell wrote:
>> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/herd
>> a number of animals of one kind kept together under human control
> On that very link:
> a group of people usually having a common bond
That's a figurative meaning derived from the first one, but it
On 16 June 2013 02:21, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
>> Special pages and contents
> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/qa/treecleaners/maintainer-needed.xml
Since I am the one generating this one, I don't think it makes sense
to move it into a git repo as it
is. The script is actually pretty simple. The te
On 22 June 2013 02:42, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 09:06:30PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
>> On Friday 21 June 2013 20:26:03 Robin H. Johnson wrote:
>> > On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 08:17:38PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
>> > > > I'm not going into review systems here at all, I
On 06/22/2013 11:00 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/herd
> a number of animals of one kind kept together under human control
>
On that very link:
a group of people usually having a common bond
On 06/22/2013 03:42 AM, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 09:06:30PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
>> On Friday 21 June 2013 20:26:03 Robin H. Johnson wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 08:17:38PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> I'm not going into review systems here at all, I'm s
> On Sat, 22 Jun 2013, Robin H Johnson wrote:
> So we have:
> Who = {ANYTHING_GOES, REQUIRES_DEV, REQUIRES_HERD, REQUIRES_MAINTAINER}
> What = {NONE, TRIVIAL, MINOR_FEATURES, VERSION_BUMP, MAJOR_FEATURES}
> So most of my packages might be coded with:
>
>
> - If you're a developer, you can
Chris Reffett posted on Fri, 21 Jun 2013 19:24:39 -0400 as excerpted:
> The KDE team has added Plasma Active to the KDE overlay, under the
> (provisional) category name kde-active. Plasma Active is based on KDE
> and is designed for mobile devices. We are not able to test it at
> present as none o
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 2:34 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
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> On 13/06/13 01:05 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
>> Dnia 2013-06-13, o godz. 09:35:54 "Dennis Lan (dlan)"
>> napisał(a):
>>
>>> also 4) app-admin/conserver 5) net-nds/ypbind 6) net-fs/samba 7
Pacho Ramos posted on Fri, 21 Jun 2013 17:48:59 +0200 as excerpted:
> El vie, 21-06-2013 a las 09:36 -0500, William Hubbs escribió:
> [...]
>> No, he has his own versions of the systemd and sysvinit ebuilds which
>> move some of the installation to non-standard places as part of this
>> machinery,
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