Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Making systemd more accessible to "normal" users

2013-05-23 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Fri, 24 May 2013, J Roeleveld wrote: > This reminded me of my experience with info-files. Don't know how > long ago it was that I used them as I find google to be a much more > useful resource. > But you might be interested in the following: > * app-text/info2html > Available versi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Making systemd more accessible to "normal" users

2013-05-23 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Tue, May 21, 2013 09:03, Alan McKinnon wrote: > I don't like gnu info files. Neither me nor anyone I know can figure out > how to drive info. This reminded me of my experience with info-files. Don't know how long ago it was that I used them as I find google to be a much more useful resource. B

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Making systemd more accessible to "normal" users

2013-05-23 Thread J. Roeleveld
(Late reply due to busy week, just want to clarify a small detail) On Sun, May 19, 2013 16:34, Peter Stuge wrote: > J. Roeleveld wrote: >> I don't see how this will avoid the issue of a limited amount of >> inodes. >> That is what I usually run out of before the disk is full when >> storing lots o

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: robo-stable bugs

2013-05-23 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Thu, 23 May 2013 23:40:42 -0600 Ryan Hill wrote: > Okay, so what are you using the STABLEREQ keyword for that you want > to set it when the bug is filed but before archs are added? The people that decided to change their way of using this keyword, did so because setting it as early as possib

[gentoo-dev] Re: robo-stable bugs

2013-05-23 Thread Ryan Hill
On Wed, 22 May 2013 10:58:26 +0200 Tom Wijsman wrote: > On Tue, 21 May 2013 18:57:20 -0600 > Ryan Hill wrote: > > > Also, your script does not set the STABLEREQ keyword. People are > > > having to hunt down your robo-stabilisation requests and add it > > > themselves. You should just do it your

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: robo-stable bugs

2013-05-23 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Thu, 23 May 2013 23:20:00 -0600 Ryan Hill wrote: > > Is a version bump an enhancement per se? > > Yes. Nothing is broken. There is no "bug" to fix. No. Things can be broken. There are almost always bugs to fix. New versions come with "bug" fixes too, users need these fixes. > > If all ve

[gentoo-dev] Re: robo-stable bugs

2013-05-23 Thread Ryan Hill
On Wed, 22 May 2013 13:00:46 +0200 Tom Wijsman wrote: > On Wed, 22 May 2013 11:07:26 +0200 > Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > > > > Is a stabilisation an enhancement per se? If all stabilisations > > > > are enhancements, then why isn't Severity set to Normal instead? > > > > (What is an enhanced seve

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] gnome2.eclass does not respect ECONF_SOURCE

2013-05-23 Thread Doug Goldstein
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Thursday 09 May 2013 12:59:11 Pacho Ramos wrote: > > El mié, 08-05-2013 a las 20:59 -0400, Mike Frysinger escribió: > > > On Wednesday 05 December 2012 18:02:51 Doug Goldstein wrote: > > > > - if grep -q "disable-scrollkeeper" configure;

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH multibuild.eclass] Use portable locking code from Fabian Groffen.

2013-05-23 Thread Zac Medico
On 05/23/2013 12:29 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Wednesday 15 May 2013 15:22:21 Michał Górny wrote: The 'userland_*' flags have proven not good enough to determine the availability of lock helpers. Fabian provided a nice portable locking code instead. Fixes: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Bugzilla maintenance

2013-05-23 Thread Theo Chatzimichos
On Thursday 23 of May 2013 23:51:33 Christian Ruppert wrote: > and getsatisfaction.com. far from what I expected :( signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [gentoo-dev] robo-stable bugs, the flipside

2013-05-23 Thread Markos Chandras
On 23 May 2013 19:49, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 23/05/13 02:40 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: >> On 23 May 2013 19:11, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: >> Here's a new question on the robo-stable front -- I want to file a >> bug (by hand, probably) on t

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] gnome2.eclass does not respect ECONF_SOURCE

2013-05-23 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 09 May 2013 12:59:11 Pacho Ramos wrote: > El mié, 08-05-2013 a las 20:59 -0400, Mike Frysinger escribió: > > On Wednesday 05 December 2012 18:02:51 Doug Goldstein wrote: > > > - if grep -q "disable-scrollkeeper" configure; then > > > + if grep -q "disable-scrollkeeper" ${ECONF_SOURCE:-.

Re: [gentoo-dev] robo-stable bugs, the flipside

2013-05-23 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > > Are the sources for the auto-stable etc. script posted somewhere? I > don't think i've actually seen a URL at all in this thread (or the one > from a couple of months ago).. By all means publish your script when done. That seems like

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH multibuild.eclass] Use portable locking code from Fabian Groffen.

2013-05-23 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 15 May 2013 15:22:21 Michał Górny wrote: > The 'userland_*' flags have proven not good enough to determine > the availability of lock helpers. Fabian provided a nice portable > locking code instead. > > Fixes: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=466554 > --- > gx86/eclass/multibu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Making systemd more accessible to "normal" users

2013-05-23 Thread Michael Orlitzky
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/23/2013 04:02 AM, Daniel Campbell wrote: > > > I can't speak for others who wish to rid their systems of systemd, > but personally I look for any excessive use of space on my HDD, > despite it being rather large. Since you brought it up, which

Re: [gentoo-dev] robo-stable bugs, the flipside

2013-05-23 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 23/05/13 02:40 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: > On 23 May 2013 19:11, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > Here's a new question on the robo-stable front -- I want to file a > bug (by hand, probably) on the next stable candidate for my package > and have the r

Re: [gentoo-dev] robo-stable bugs, the flipside

2013-05-23 Thread Markos Chandras
On 23 May 2013 19:11, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > Here's a new question on the robo-stable front -- I want to file a bug > (by hand, probably) on the next stable candidate for my package and > have the robo-stable script CC arches and STABLEREQ a

[gentoo-dev] robo-stable bugs, the flipside

2013-05-23 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Here's a new question on the robo-stable front -- I want to file a bug (by hand, probably) on the next stable candidate for my package and have the robo-stable script CC arches and STABLEREQ after 30 days (assuming no other bugs pop up) Is that doab

Re: [gentoo-dev] robo-stable bugs

2013-05-23 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 22/05/13 07:03 PM, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote: > On 05/22/2013 09:11 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: >> On 21/05/13 11:46 PM, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote: > >>> I do, however, completely agree that there should be some way >>> to leave the bug

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Making systemd more accessible to "normal" users

2013-05-23 Thread Tom Wijsman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 23 May 2013 03:02:30 -0500 Daniel Campbell wrote: > I can't speak for others who wish to rid their systems of systemd, but > personally I look for any excessive use of space on my HDD, despite it > being rather large. Since you brought it up,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Making systemd more accessible to "normal" users

2013-05-23 Thread Daniel Campbell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/23/2013 01:41 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > On Wed, 22 May 2013 16:39:25 -0500 Daniel Campbell > wrote: > >> I'm curious as to why you consider users who want to save disk >> space (openrc or systemd, or other packages, it doesn't matter) >> as

[gentoo-dev] Re: Making systemd more accessible to "normal" users

2013-05-23 Thread Duncan
Tom Wijsman posted on Thu, 23 May 2013 08:57:02 +0200 as excerpted: > If you really think[1] you need INSTALL_MASK for a few small files when > there are much larger consumers around, you should carefully consider > whether what you are doing is the right thing. ("OMG systemd units!") > >> [1] Th