Re: [gentoo-dev] maintainer-wanted: x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers

2013-03-04 Thread Walter Dnes
On Mon, Mar 04, 2013 at 03:44:33PM -0100, Carlos Silva wrote > On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: > > > I'm not a C programmer, let alone a developer, so this may be a stupid > > question, but here goes... has anyone ever tried doing a HAL (Hardware > > Abstraction Layer) to pre

Re: [gentoo-dev] proxy-maintainers herd as a backup herd for all the user-maintained packages

2013-03-04 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 19:35:24 + Markos Chandras wrote: > A number of packages in the tree are maintained by a Gentoo developer > and a user. As a result of which, we are unable to monitor these > packages in bugzilla. This is useful in case one of the maintainers > goes MIA so we can find an a

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers: nvidia-drivers-313.18.ebuild ChangeLog

2013-03-04 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 20:28:58 +0200 Samuli Suominen wrote: > On 03/03/13 19:24, Ryan Hill wrote: > > On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 15:42:56 +0100 > > hasufell wrote: > > > >> What do we have useflags for in gentoo? > > > > Not for conditional patching, that's for sure. > > Yet that is exactly what IUSE=va

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] multilib-build.eclass and restricting unsupported ABIs

2013-03-04 Thread Michał Górny
On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 23:21:36 +0100 Thomas Sachau wrote: > Michał Górny schrieb: > > On Mon, 4 Mar 2013 11:02:40 +0100 > > Alexis Ballier wrote: > > > >> you are called with ABI=sth argv[0] = your name > > > > I'm afraid that's the first potential point of failure. Relying > > on argv[0] is a p

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] multilib-build.eclass and restricting unsupported ABIs

2013-03-04 Thread Thomas Sachau
Michał Górny schrieb: > On Mon, 4 Mar 2013 11:02:40 +0100 > Alexis Ballier wrote: > >> On Sun, 3 Mar 2013 23:25:03 +0100 >> Michał Górny wrote: >> >>> On Sun, 3 Mar 2013 18:18:12 +0100 >>> Alexis Ballier wrote: >>> On Sun, 3 Mar 2013 17:58:26 +0100 Michał Górny wrote: > What

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] multilib-build.eclass and restricting unsupported ABIs

2013-03-04 Thread Michał Górny
On Mon, 4 Mar 2013 11:02:40 +0100 Alexis Ballier wrote: > On Sun, 3 Mar 2013 23:25:03 +0100 > Michał Górny wrote: > > > On Sun, 3 Mar 2013 18:18:12 +0100 > > Alexis Ballier wrote: > > > > > On Sun, 3 Mar 2013 17:58:26 +0100 > > > Michał Górny wrote: > > > > > > > What do we need that wrappe

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] multilib-build.eclass and restricting unsupported ABIs

2013-03-04 Thread Thomas Sachau
Alexis Ballier schrieb: > On Sun, 3 Mar 2013 23:25:03 +0100 > Michał Górny wrote: > >> On Sun, 3 Mar 2013 18:18:12 +0100 >> Alexis Ballier wrote: >> >>> On Sun, 3 Mar 2013 17:58:26 +0100 >>> Michał Górny wrote: >>> What do we need that wrapper for? What does the wrapper do? Does it ju

[gentoo-dev] Re: maintainer-wanted: x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers

2013-03-04 Thread Duncan
Walter Dnes posted on Mon, 04 Mar 2013 11:28:50 -0500 as excerpted: > On Sun, Mar 03, 2013 at 10:48:07PM -0500, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote > >> I am sorry that this package has been such a headache for you, >> unfortunately binary drivers (especially) are often like that. Thanks >> for all yo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers: nvidia-drivers-313.18.ebuild ChangeLog

2013-03-04 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 03/03/13 19:24, Ryan Hill wrote: On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 15:42:56 +0100 hasufell wrote: What do we have useflags for in gentoo? Not for conditional patching, that's for sure. Yet that is exactly what IUSE=vanilla is designed for... ;-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers: nvidia-drivers-313.18.ebuild ChangeLog

2013-03-04 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 03/03/13 16:42, hasufell wrote: On 03/03/2013 08:11 AM, Alec Warner wrote: There was a big ole' chat on #gentoo-dev regarding this. My understanding of the summary is that the nvidia-driver Gentoo team only supports kernels that nvidia themselves (upstream) support. The Kernels > 3.4 are not

Re: [gentoo-dev] maintainer-wanted: x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers

2013-03-04 Thread Alexandre Rostovtsev
On Mon, 2013-03-04 at 11:28 -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Sun, Mar 03, 2013 at 10:48:07PM -0500, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote > > > I am sorry that this package has been such a headache for you, > > unfortunately binary drivers (especially) are often like that. Thanks > > for all your hard work

Re: [gentoo-dev] maintainer-wanted: x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers

2013-03-04 Thread Carlos Silva
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: > I'm not a C programmer, let alone a developer, so this may be a stupid > question, but here goes... has anyone ever tried doing a HAL (Hardware > Abstraction Layer) to present a reasonably stable interface to binary > video drivers? Think of

Re: [gentoo-dev] maintainer-wanted: x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers

2013-03-04 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sun, Mar 03, 2013 at 10:48:07PM -0500, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote > I am sorry that this package has been such a headache for you, > unfortunately binary drivers (especially) are often like that. Thanks > for all your hard work keeping this usable. I'm not a C programmer, let alone a dev

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-libs/confuse: confuse-2.7.ebuild ChangeLog

2013-03-04 Thread Alec Warner
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 5:58 AM, Peter Stuge wrote: > Andreas K. Huettel wrote: >> Starting as a developer or aspiring to become one with that >> attitude is not acceptable. > > That doesn't make sense to me. > > If the reason is good, surely it does not matter who is doing the breaking? Well ther

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-libs/confuse: confuse-2.7.ebuild ChangeLog

2013-03-04 Thread Peter Stuge
Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > Starting as a developer or aspiring to become one with that > attitude is not acceptable. That doesn't make sense to me. If the reason is good, surely it does not matter who is doing the breaking? //Peter pgpvkacjjiVYz.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] maintainer-wanted: x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers

2013-03-04 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sun, 3 Mar 2013 15:39:16 -0600 Doug Goldstein wrote: > One of the reasons people volunteer in open source projects is to > scratch their personal itch. When that itch develops into a festering, > gangrenous limb it becomes time to amputate it. That is what I am > doing with my involvement in x

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] multilib-build.eclass and restricting unsupported ABIs

2013-03-04 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Sun, 3 Mar 2013 23:25:03 +0100 Michał Górny wrote: > On Sun, 3 Mar 2013 18:18:12 +0100 > Alexis Ballier wrote: > > > On Sun, 3 Mar 2013 17:58:26 +0100 > > Michał Górny wrote: > > > > > What do we need that wrapper for? What does the wrapper do? Does > > > it just rely on custom 'ABI' varia

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] multilib-build.eclass and restricting unsupported ABIs

2013-03-04 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 22:39:42 +0100 Thomas Sachau wrote: > The wrapper is already in a seperate package [1], the currently active > and tested version (1.0) is in bash, also there is a (currently > masked) version 2.0 written by binki in C doing the same natively. So > you even have a choice in wha

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-libs/confuse: confuse-2.7.ebuild ChangeLog

2013-03-04 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Montag, 4. März 2013, 03:19:17 schrieb Peter Stuge: > > > > Again, I guess you have to make Mike go away now. > > > > I never said that so please just stop it. > > You threatened to preempt me if I wanted to become a developer and > found his practise OK - meaning that the behavior is unacceptab