Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc-2.17: nscd is optional

2012-12-31 Thread Maxim Kammerer
On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 2:10 AM, Alec Warner wrote: > flatfile lookups are 2-4ms with hot cache. How much faster is the db > option? I guess it depends on the implementation and how close is the system's operational situation to an ideal one (whether swap started thrashing, etc.). A DB is the prop

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo and Root CAs

2012-12-31 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Tobias Klausmann wrote: > Now before you reply, RTFA. Also note that while my own opinion > on the matter is irrelevant, I _do_ think that his concerns need > to be addressed, particularly the second half of his statement. SSL Certificate Authorities are a mess.

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc-2.17: nscd is optional

2012-12-31 Thread Alec Warner
On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Maxim Kammerer wrote: > On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 10:45 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: >> On Sunday 30 December 2012 13:47:40 Maxim Kammerer wrote: >>> >>> Desktop users would probably benefit more from glibc databases, if they >>> worked: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bu

Re: [gentoo-dev] emerge --depclean vs missing IUSE in older ebuild.. what exactly is right?

2012-12-31 Thread Zac Medico
On 12/31/2012 07:22 AM, Leho Kraav wrote: > Hi all > > > Just bumped into something I haven't encountered before. Running amd64. > > Already had sys-auth/pambase-20101024-r2 (stable) installed. Then > installed gnome-base/gdm-3.4.1-r3 binpkg, binhost had newer pambase, > which is why this didn't

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc-2.17: nscd is optional

2012-12-31 Thread Maxim Kammerer
On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 10:45 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Sunday 30 December 2012 13:47:40 Maxim Kammerer wrote: >> >> Desktop users would probably benefit more from glibc databases, if they >> worked: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=432020 >> http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi

Re: [gentoo-dev] About using a CONFIGURATION (or SETUP) file under /usr/share/doc for configuration information

2012-12-31 Thread Zac Medico
On 12/31/2012 05:21 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > pkg_postinst() { > > Some improvements I am not sure how to implement just now: > - What would be the proper way to "elog" contents > of /usr/share/doc/${PF}/CONFIGURATION.bz2 and, then, allow the following > to be shorter: > > if ! has_version

Re: [gentoo-dev] UTF-8 locale by default

2012-12-31 Thread Zac Medico
On 12/31/2012 09:14 AM, Maxim Kammerer wrote: > Hi, > > stage3 now includes non-ASCII paths, via app-misc/ca-certificates -- e.g.: > /usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla/TÜBİTAK_UEKAE_Kök_Sertifika_Hizmet_Sağlayıcısı_-_Sürüm_3.crt > > Working with those (e.g., backup) probably requires a UTF-8 loca

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc-2.17: nscd is optional

2012-12-31 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 30 December 2012 13:47:40 Maxim Kammerer wrote: > On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > because i suspect it's dead weight for most people, especially desktop > > users. > > Desktop users would probably benefit more from glibc databases, if they > worked: https://bug

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE flag "suid" in both use.desc and use.local.desc

2012-12-31 Thread Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/31/2012 01:44 AM, Walter Dnes wrote: > Moving USE flags from local to global status is frequently discussed > here, so this seems to be the right forum to raise the issue... > > [d531][waltdnes][~] grep suid /usr/portage/profiles/use.desc > su

Re: [gentoo-dev] What did we achieve in 2012? What are our resolutions for 2013?

2012-12-31 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 22:17:35 +0800 Ben de Groot wrote: > Happy New Year to all of you! +1 > Looking back at 2012, I wonder what we consider our achievements for > this past year. What is the state of Gentoo? How have we brought it > forward and improved it this past year? I think I fixed a few

Re: [gentoo-dev] UTF-8 locale by default

2012-12-31 Thread Maxim Kammerer
Hi, stage3 now includes non-ASCII paths, via app-misc/ca-certificates -- e.g.: /usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla/TÜBİTAK_UEKAE_Kök_Sertifika_Hizmet_Sağlayıcısı_-_Sürüm_3.crt Working with those (e.g., backup) probably requires a UTF-8 locale. Is this considered acceptable? Did anyone notice? --

Re: [gentoo-dev] What did we achieve in 2012? What are our resolutions for 2013?

2012-12-31 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 31/12/2012 17:22, Roy Bamford wrote: > I'm older and more cynical than most on this list. In my mind, > improvement means change but change is not always improvement. Thank you. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ signature.asc Description

Re: [gentoo-dev] What did we achieve in 2012? What are our resolutions for 2013?

2012-12-31 Thread Roy Bamford
On 2012.12.31 14:17, Ben de Groot wrote: > Happy New Year to all of you! > > Looking back at 2012, I wonder what we consider our achievements for > this past year. What is the state of Gentoo? How have we brought it > forward and improved it this past year? > > And what do we want to see in the c

Re: [gentoo-dev] What did we achieve in 2012? What are our resolutions for 2013?

2012-12-31 Thread Jeff Horelick
On 31 December 2012 09:17, Ben de Groot wrote: > Happy New Year to all of you! > > Looking back at 2012, I wonder what we consider our achievements for > this past year. What is the state of Gentoo? How have we brought it > forward and improved it this past year? > > And what do we want to see in

Re: [gentoo-dev] emerge --depclean vs missing IUSE in older ebuild.. what exactly is right?

2012-12-31 Thread Michał Górny
On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 17:22:16 +0200 Leho Kraav wrote: > Just bumped into something I haven't encountered before. Running amd64. > > Already had sys-auth/pambase-20101024-r2 (stable) installed. Then > installed gnome-base/gdm-3.4.1-r3 binpkg, binhost had newer pambase, > which is why this didn't

Re: [gentoo-dev] emerge --depclean vs missing IUSE in older ebuild.. what exactly is right?

2012-12-31 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
It doesn't — I guess gdm should have used [consolekit?,systemd(-)?]. Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Leho Kraav wrote: > Hi all > > > Just bumped into something I haven't encountered before. Running amd64. > >

[gentoo-dev] emerge --depclean vs missing IUSE in older ebuild.. what exactly is right?

2012-12-31 Thread Leho Kraav
Hi all Just bumped into something I haven't encountered before. Running amd64. Already had sys-auth/pambase-20101024-r2 (stable) installed. Then installed gnome-base/gdm-3.4.1-r3 binpkg, binhost had newer pambase, which is why this didn't surface before. Everything is fine for runtime, but

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo and Root CAs

2012-12-31 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 15:42:39 +0100 Tobias Klausmann wrote: > I _do_ think that his concerns need > to be addressed, particularly the second half of his statement. Whilst I agree that if it does debians system shouldn't undermine mozillas. I think the latest efforts are a pointless bandaid but I

Re: [gentoo-dev] What did we achieve in 2012? What are our resolutions for 2013?

2012-12-31 Thread IAN DELANEY
On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 15:24:40 +0100 Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > On 31/12/2012 15:17, Ben de Groot wrote: > > > > Looking back at 2012, I wonder what we consider our achievements for > > this past year. What is the state of Gentoo? How have we brought it > > forward and improved it this past year?

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: USE flag "suid" in both use.desc and use.local.desc

2012-12-31 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 08:21:10 + (UTC) Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > I was curious, however, as I'd been reading about running X as > non-root, I use some hackery to run startx on some systems as a normal user on linux and without suid. The only important things to me that break on th

[gentoo-dev] Gentoo and Root CAs

2012-12-31 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hey, Ryan Sleevi, who's working on Chromium and is familiar with other project's Root Cert programs has written an article on how he perceives assorted distributions handle Root CAs: https://plus.google.com/u/0/105761279104103278252/posts/eVdB6X3NpPg """ [...] Debian: From [5]. According to READ

Re: [gentoo-dev] What did we achieve in 2012? What are our resolutions for 2013?

2012-12-31 Thread Pacho Ramos
El lun, 31-12-2012 a las 22:17 +0800, Ben de Groot escribió: > Happy New Year to all of you! > > Looking back at 2012, I wonder what we consider our achievements for > this past year. What is the state of Gentoo? How have we brought it > forward and improved it this past year? > > And what do we

Re: [gentoo-dev] What did we achieve in 2012? What are our resolutions for 2013?

2012-12-31 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 31/12/2012 15:17, Ben de Groot wrote: > > Looking back at 2012, I wonder what we consider our achievements for > this past year. What is the state of Gentoo? How have we brought it > forward and improved it this past year? Have we? -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — h

[gentoo-dev] What did we achieve in 2012? What are our resolutions for 2013?

2012-12-31 Thread Ben de Groot
Happy New Year to all of you! Looking back at 2012, I wonder what we consider our achievements for this past year. What is the state of Gentoo? How have we brought it forward and improved it this past year? And what do we want to see in the coming year? How can we make Gentoo more awesome in 2013

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Local bindist descriptions

2012-12-31 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 31/12/2012 14:28, Nuno J. Silva wrote: >"Do not allow the compilation of patent-encumbered AAC >encoders. Please note that disabling this flag does not enable these >features, which are ruled by separate flags (encoding and either faac >or aacplus)." Congrats for missing the poi

[gentoo-dev] Re: Local bindist descriptions

2012-12-31 Thread Nuno J. Silva
On 2012-12-31, Alexis Ballier wrote: > On Sun, 30 Dec 2012 15:15:25 +0100 > Michał Górny wrote: > >> On Sun, 30 Dec 2012 11:01:52 -0300 >> Alexis Ballier wrote: >> >> > > Etc. ffmpeg is like the holy grail of local bindist descriptions. >> > >> > bindist does absolutely nothing by itself there

Re: [gentoo-dev] About using a CONFIGURATION (or SETUP) file under /usr/share/doc for configuration information

2012-12-31 Thread Pacho Ramos
El dom, 30-12-2012 a las 00:09 +0100, Pacho Ramos escribió: [...] > > I want to have a permanent reference of current elog messages simply > > showing configuration tips to: > > 1. Show them via elog messages only first time package is installed > > 2. Not need to read ebuild directly once people r

Re: [gentoo-dev] Attracting developers (Re: Packages up for grabs...)

2012-12-31 Thread Theo Chatzimichos
On Monday 31 of December 2012 16:46:53 Ben de Groot wrote: > On 30 December 2012 00:13, Brian Dolbec wrote: > > On Sat, 2012-12-29 at 16:42 +0800, Ben de Groot wrote: > >> On 27 December 2012 00:39, Kent Fredric wrote: > >> > Can we short cut the whole quiz process and have some "Inbound" > >> >

[gentoo-dev] Re: Packages up for grabs: prosody + lua deps

2012-12-31 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: > dev-lua/lua-zlib: no other maintainers/herd > dev-lua/luadbi: no other maintainers/herd > dev-lua/luaevent: blueness, rafaelmartins > dev-lua/luaexpat: rafaelmartins > dev-lua/luasec: rafaelmartins > net-im/prosody: klausman, rafaelmartins

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Local bindist descriptions

2012-12-31 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Sun, 30 Dec 2012 15:15:25 +0100 Michał Górny wrote: > On Sun, 30 Dec 2012 11:01:52 -0300 > Alexis Ballier wrote: > > > > Etc. ffmpeg is like the holy grail of local bindist descriptions. > > > > bindist does absolutely nothing by itself there. do you really want > > a description like "Enfo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Attracting developers (Re: Packages up for grabs...)

2012-12-31 Thread Ben de Groot
On 30 December 2012 00:13, Brian Dolbec wrote: > On Sat, 2012-12-29 at 16:42 +0800, Ben de Groot wrote: >> On 27 December 2012 00:39, Kent Fredric wrote: >> > Can we short cut the whole quiz process and have some "Inbound" repository >> > until we're full git, which people can fork/commit/pull an

[gentoo-dev] Re: USE flag "suid" in both use.desc and use.local.desc

2012-12-31 Thread Duncan
Walter Dnes posted on Mon, 31 Dec 2012 01:44:25 -0500 as excerpted: > Moving USE flags from local to global status is frequently discussed > here, so this seems to be the right forum to raise the issue... > > [d531][waltdnes][~] grep suid /usr/portage/profiles/use.desc > suid - Enable setuid root