Re: [gentoo-dev] new global USE flag: orc

2012-12-15 Thread Luca Barbato
On 12/16/12 5:28 AM, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote: Currently, the "orc" local USE flag is used by 11 packages, 9 of them with identical descriptions. I think it's time to make it a global flag. I would suggest the following description: "Use dev-lang/orc for just-in-time optimization of array oper

[gentoo-dev] new global USE flag: orc

2012-12-15 Thread Alexandre Rostovtsev
Currently, the "orc" local USE flag is used by 11 packages, 9 of them with identical descriptions. I think it's time to make it a global flag. I would suggest the following description: "Use dev-lang/orc for just-in-time optimization of array operations" Current flag users: media-libs/gst-plugins

Re: [gentoo-dev] udev distro vs upstream choices

2012-12-15 Thread Richard Yao
On 12/15/2012 10:03 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 07:10:22PM -0500, Richard Yao wrote: >> On 12/15/2012 06:02 PM, William Hubbs wrote: >>> All, >>> >>> what are the specific choices I made in udev that are distro choices vs >>> upstream choices. People have said to me a couple

Re: [gentoo-dev] udev distro vs upstream choices

2012-12-15 Thread William Hubbs
On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 07:10:22PM -0500, Richard Yao wrote: > On 12/15/2012 06:02 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > > All, > > > > what are the specific choices I made in udev that are distro choices vs > > upstream choices. People have said to me a couple of times that there > > were choices I made tha

[gentoo-dev] Re: udev distro vs upstream choices

2012-12-15 Thread Duncan
Richard Yao posted on Sat, 15 Dec 2012 19:10:22 -0500 as excerpted: > On 12/15/2012 06:02 PM, William Hubbs wrote: >> All, >> >> what are the specific choices I made in udev that are distro choices vs >> upstream choices. People have said to me a couple of times that there >> were choices I made

Re: [gentoo-dev] udev distro vs upstream choices

2012-12-15 Thread Richard Yao
On 12/15/2012 06:02 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > All, > > what are the specific choices I made in udev that are distro choices vs > upstream choices. People have said to me a couple of times that there > were choices I made that are not upstream choices. If there is something > I can undo in udev to

[gentoo-dev] Re: eudev project announcement

2012-12-15 Thread Duncan
Walter Dnes posted on Sat, 15 Dec 2012 12:53:41 -0500 as excerpted: > On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 07:21:21AM +, Duncan wrote >> Walter Dnes posted on Sat, 15 Dec 2012 01:33:04 -0500 as excerpted: >> >>> Actually, for political reasons, I hope that eudev does submit a >>> bunch bugs+patches, and g

Re: [gentoo-dev] udev distro vs upstream choices

2012-12-15 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 16/12/12 01:02, William Hubbs wrote: All, what are the specific choices I made in udev that are distro choices vs upstream choices. People have said to me a couple of times that there were choices I made that are not upstream choices. If there is something I can undo in udev to make it easier

[gentoo-dev] udev distro vs upstream choices

2012-12-15 Thread William Hubbs
All, what are the specific choices I made in udev that are distro choices vs upstream choices. People have said to me a couple of times that there were choices I made that are not upstream choices. If there is something I can undo in udev to make it easier for us I will do that; I'm just not clear

Re: [gentoo-dev] eudev project announcement

2012-12-15 Thread Richard Yao
On 12/15/2012 04:20 PM, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote: > Please, you have your own mailing list. Use it. > > -ZC > I am under the impression that project announcements must be sent to gentoo-dev-announce@ and set Reply-To: gentoo-dev@. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] eudev project announcement

2012-12-15 Thread Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-project] eudev project announcement

2012-12-15 Thread Richard Yao
On 12/15/2012 11:20 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > Gentoo isn't GitHub. When people donate money to Gentoo they're not > donating so that a club of elite coders can use the infrastructure to > host just anything that suits their fancy. The reason that we let any > Gentoo developer just start a project

Re: [gentoo-dev] eudev project announcement

2012-12-15 Thread Richard Yao
On 12/14/2012 11:16 PM, Peter Stuge wrote: > Richard Yao wrote: >> Where is development now? >> >> We have rewritten the build system and restored support for older >> kernels and verified compatibility as far back as Linux 2.6.31. We have >> tagged 1_beta1 and eudev is in the portage tree. A

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-project] eudev project announcement

2012-12-15 Thread Luca Barbato
On 12/15/2012 05:20 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Luca Barbato wrote: >> >> >> eudev is a Gentoo project is not Gentoo. Same could be said for OpenRC. >> > > OpenRC isn't a Gentoo project, at least, it wasn't in the past. > > The social contract defines Gentoo as a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eudev project announcement

2012-12-15 Thread Richard Yao
On 12/15/2012 02:33 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 13:58:43 -0500 > "Walter Dnes" wrote: > >> On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 07:07:09PM +0100, Micha?? G??rny wrote >>> >>> Waaait, what? Did something change lately or are you just repeating >>> the same bullshit for months? >> >> Older s

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eudev project announcement

2012-12-15 Thread Michał Górny
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 13:58:43 -0500 "Walter Dnes" wrote: > On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 07:07:09PM +0100, Micha?? G??rny wrote > > > > Waaait, what? Did something change lately or are you just repeating > > the same bullshit for months? > > Older systemd boots OK with a separate /usr and eudev. Bu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eudev project announcement

2012-12-15 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 07:07:09PM +0100, Micha?? G??rny wrote > > Waaait, what? Did something change lately or are you just repeating > the same bullshit for months? Older systemd boots OK with a separate /usr and eudev. But somehow, somewhere along the line, as part of the merge, the udev po

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eudev project announcement

2012-12-15 Thread Michał Górny
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 12:53:41 -0500 "Walter Dnes" wrote: > On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 07:21:21AM +, Duncan wrote > > Walter Dnes posted on Sat, 15 Dec 2012 01:33:04 -0500 as excerpted: > > > > > [Udev-systemd has] essentially announced ahead of time that most bugs > > > from non-systemd users wo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eudev project announcement

2012-12-15 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 07:21:21AM +, Duncan wrote > Walter Dnes posted on Sat, 15 Dec 2012 01:33:04 -0500 as excerpted: > > > [Udev-systemd has] essentially announced ahead of time that most bugs > > from non-systemd users would be closed with WONTFIX. > > Agreed, to this point. > > > Actua

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-project] eudev project announcement

2012-12-15 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Luca Barbato wrote: > > > eudev is a Gentoo project is not Gentoo. Same could be said for OpenRC. > OpenRC isn't a Gentoo project, at least, it wasn't in the past. The social contract defines Gentoo as a collection of free knowledge, which includes "free softwar

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-project] eudev project announcement

2012-12-15 Thread Luca Barbato
On 12/15/2012 01:48 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 10:52 PM, Richard Yao wrote: >> The systemd developers were in the middle of a transition to the LGPL >> from the GPL when we forked. We inherited the code in the middle of that >> transition and we see no reason to purs

Re: [gentoo-dev] eudev project announcement

2012-12-15 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 12/15/2012 01:33 AM, Walter Dnes wrote: On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 05:16:48AM +0100, Peter Stuge wrote I hope that eudev wants to do the respectable thing for any fork, ie. work hard to minimize the amount of wasted effort in both projects by sharing much code and bugfixes. That would be ni

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-project] eudev project announcement

2012-12-15 Thread Duncan
Rich Freeman posted on Sat, 15 Dec 2012 07:48:29 -0500 as excerpted: > On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 10:52 PM, Richard Yao wrote: >> The systemd developers were in the middle of a transition to >> the LGPL >> from the GPL when we forked. We inherited the code in the middle of >> that tr

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-project] eudev project announcement

2012-12-15 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 10:52 PM, Richard Yao wrote: > The systemd developers were in the middle of a transition to the LGPL > from the GPL when we forked. We inherited the code in the middle of that > transition and we see no reason to pursue a different course. Therefore, > all future ch

Re: [gentoo-dev] eudev project announcement

2012-12-15 Thread Dale
Roy Bamford wrote: > On 2012.12.15 03:52, Richard Yao wrote: >> Dear Everyone, >> >> I am pleased to announce the Gentoo eudev project. > [snip] >> Yours truly, >> Richard Yao >> > [snip] > > I welcome the choice that this new project brings, that's what Gentoo > is about - choice. > > I wis

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eudev project announcement

2012-12-15 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 12:28 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > I, on the other hand, hope that this isn't an indication of Gentoo not being > interested in systemd. I'm eagerly awaiting the moment where I can "emerge > systemd" and just have it working. Gentoo is a community - of which you are a

Re: [gentoo-dev] eudev project announcement

2012-12-15 Thread Roy Bamford
On 2012.12.15 03:52, Richard Yao wrote: > Dear Everyone, > > I am pleased to announce the Gentoo eudev project. [snip] > > Yours truly, > Richard Yao > [snip] I welcome the choice that this new project brings, that's what Gentoo is about - choice. I wish eudev both good luck and succes

[gentoo-dev] x11-libs/libaosd is looking for a new maintainer

2012-12-15 Thread Michał Górny
Hello, I'm no longer interested in maintaining x11-libs/libaosd. It has no open bugs, no in-tree consumers and -- as far as I'm aware -- no new commits for 2 years. It was requested in bug 351741 [1]. I believe that our users mostly use the command-line interface. Some grepping of the net shows t